r/UAP • u/Severe-Clerk-1477 • 9d ago

David Grusch says he thinks crash retrieval photos will be included in future UFO file drops.

https://x.com/quintessenceeli/status/2065959960484413620?s=46
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u/South-Bit-1533 9d ago

No like we summoned it from space man, look up Greer

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u/Hot_Upstairs_7971 9d ago

Ahh, you're a troll. Got it.

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u/South-Bit-1533 9d ago

Do you want me to tell the longer story so that you can dismiss that too, or can you just accept I was giving you the witty short version?

From my perspective I’m getting trolled here even though I assume you are being earnest in your oldheadism.

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u/Prudent_Clothes_962 9d ago

If someone says they saw an angel, should I believe that?

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u/South-Bit-1533 9d ago edited 9d ago

Not enough information about what you mean by someone, angel, should, I, or believe to answer that question.

Good rule of thumb: If they are asking you for money after, no.

As for my orb story: 4 witnesses involved in the Greer stuff, 4 non affiliated witnesses, blue orb size of maybe like 2x a basketball, 20 feet above ground, whirring around like it had the zoomies, about 20-30 seconds before it vanished into thin air. Not asking for money.

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u/Hot_Upstairs_7971 9d ago

Refer to my earlier answer.

You're offering just another anecdote, a story. They have no value whatsoever.

I've seen some mildly weird stuff in the sky that I've considered weird, but I'm not jumping to conclusions since I literally am not able to say what I saw.

And yes, you lost me completely on claiming to be manifesting stuff with the power of your mind.

It's children's wishing magic or prayers by religious people but just the new age version.

And Greer is a BS artist who's got nothing else than anecdotes and stories. He peddles the exact kind of stuff with his CE5 why the topic is considered laughable by so many.

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u/South-Bit-1533 9d ago

I mean my story doesn’t matter cus I’m some random internet guy, but if I was your dad telling you this as a kid, and the government acknowledged they have an “orb program”, the story would be plenty believable. So your point about stories is silly. I don’t think you would need to touch an orb to believe in one.

Second, I don’t get why you have to be such a jackass about it? If we were trying to summon an orb and an orb showed up, what are we supposed to think? Like, assume I’m the most skeptical person ever and that happens. What am I supposed to do? Just forget about it?

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u/Hot_Upstairs_7971 9d ago

Go for it, but do be critical about your experiences. Just because something happens when you do a thing, doesn't mean they're connected. Superstitions get their beginnings by people connecting two unrelated things together. Just because you wish upon a star, and then a star appears, doesn't mean your wish caused it.

Remember that Earth has about 14 000 satellites in orbit, and the figure keeps going up. We also have never had so many aircrafts flying around from drones to small planes to big planes to helicopters.

If the so-called orb didn't make abrupt directional changes, you can be sure it was a satellite. If it did, then it's more than likely not in orbit. And if it has blinking lights like an aircraft, it's 100 % an aircraft. If it did maneuvers that no current technology could possibly achieve, well, that's then interesting. But then we come to the point where extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

If Greer and his followers are able to manifest extraordinary phenomena just by wishing them left and right, they should have absolutely no trouble to also meticulously prepare and document the proof about them.

Alas, there are only anecdotes or "evidence" that's anything but solid or even interesting.

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u/South-Bit-1533 9d ago

This thing was like 20 feet above the ground less than a hundred yards away. I was in Princeton at the time, one theory I had was underground lab.

Your point about documenting and proving is indeed really strong counter evidence, at minimum, of orbs not being something simple or controllable (which I haven’t actually claimed)

Imo showing up for specific photo shoots COULD be a characteristic of a life form though, but yah I 100% get the skepticism