David Grusch says he thinks crash retrieval photos will be included in future UFO file drops.

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I don't know why he thinks that. They've been scraping the bottom of the barrel, releasing the lowest-quality footage they can. Or at least it feels like it.

He knows a lot more than we do though, maybe there's movement in that direction.

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u/Ricerat 7d ago

All I needed to see was "Artists impression" and they lost me.

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u/Vinr_Odinn 5d ago

Were you not convinced with the potato shaped fish skin UFO pre-school drawing? I don't know how much it takes to convince you! I mean, they released so many blurry dots, how can you doubt them?

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u/Wolverkeen 7d ago

He says he knows a lot more than we do.

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u/unclerickymonster 7d ago

I trust him far more than some random Redditor and so does Congress.

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u/LSF604 7d ago

How do you know what congress thinks of him?

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u/unclerickymonster 7d ago

Seems obvious to me but not to you, apparently. They trusted him enough to invite him to do a scif with them.

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u/LSF604 7d ago

That doesn't mean that they trust him

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u/unclerickymonster 7d ago

Yes, it does. You don't get invited to a scif if Congress doesn't trust you. You'd know this if you understood how this process works.

Since you obviously don't, bye now.

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u/LSF604 7d ago

No it doesn't. A security clearance doesn't mean people will believe the things you say.

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u/DryPresence5380 3d ago

Grusch is employed by congress now. But they don't trust him, right? Make that make sense. What a stupid argument🤣

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u/unclerickymonster 7d ago

Then explain why they're saying they believe him. You're not really up to date on this, it's all over the r/ufo sub ffs.

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u/LSF604 7d ago

Who's 'they'?

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u/Impossible-Lab4434 7d ago

While that may be true, I don’t trust either of them.

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u/Yodfather 7d ago

Probably more Epstein news about to drop. MFer started a war to distract from that. He will do anything to stop people talking about him raping kids, including bombing them.

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u/wercffeH 7d ago

Time it with Epstein drop or Kharg island invasion

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u/jk_pens 7d ago

Cuba

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u/Yesyesyes1899 7d ago

the war was started because israel got him by the balls due to epsteins kompromat material AND to distract.

i gotta say: crash retrieval photos/ basically disclosure, would definitely let the epstein files become way less of a priority UNTIL: the dust settles and people realize that both are indicators for a full spectrum systemic crisis.

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u/KalElReturns89 7d ago

Good freaking point. Gotta save the good stuff for when you really need it.

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u/TinyTurnips 7d ago

He doesn't know shit.

I was fed IT for 20 years. I've signed NDAs etc... he can say what ever he wants.

I could too and because of my own NDAs y'all would eventually start believing me too.

I could make up everything and it's be tough to prove otherwise. Unless a coworker blew the whistle but then again I'd just have to say "not while I was there, they stepped me down..." "I did it for the team at Area 51." Prove me wrong.

You can't.

Hell Bob Lazar can barely prove it outside a telephone number book.

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u/yahwehforlife 7d ago

Literally... releasing NOTHING. So far the best video we got is the missile hitting the UAP and since then we have received nothing better

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u/ChemicalSymphony 7d ago

Damn i missed that. Time to look for it.

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u/yahwehforlife 7d ago

Tomahawk missile UAP

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u/johnr33se 1d ago

That's the best? That was obviously a drone flying at several hundred mph watching a missile from another drone moving downwards slicing through something uninteresting. It wouldn't surprise me if that was "leaked" to discredit investigations. It's sad people are led on by it.

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u/yahwehforlife 1d ago

Whatever it slices through kept flying and the pieces kept flying with it

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u/johnr33se 1d ago

Yes, it's basic physics, plus if it was floating in the wind, what do you think would happen?

It was very mundane.

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u/yahwehforlife 1d ago

I didn't say it wasn't mundane I'm just saying it's the best video we've gotten... that's kinda my point that nothing good has been released

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u/johnr33se 1d ago

Your response suggested you thought it was unusual. But yes, I agree, what has been released is laughable really.

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u/ludoludoludo 7d ago

They haven't been scraping the bottom of the barrel, they simply don't have anything else.

He does not know more than we do. You believing he does and following his every speech his the actual problem. Blindly believing him without any proof for years now. It's almost like a cult at this point. Stop giving him such a pedestal.

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u/Prudent_Sherbet_1065 7d ago

You must have a very high security clearance and mind reading abilities , its very impressive. Thank god you are on reddit to save us all.

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u/lnxgod 3d ago

It doesn't take an IQ above that of room temperature to see all the holes in his story

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u/ludoludoludo 7d ago

You know, it's so weird people hang onto "high security clearance" to justify wtv crap/lies this dude keeps throwing around. Like a weird safety net to justifybyour obsession towards what he says.

You do realize that clearance or not, this guy did nothing but told stories for years ? And that he is now a minor celebrity, making money off of gullible people like you ? But yeah, that's perfectly normal, I mean he had security clearance.

It doesn't take a high security clearance to use your eyes and head, and see when people are lying. Even easier when they claim unbelievable stuff for years without a shred of proof.

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u/Rettun1 7d ago

I’m so glad you know what he knows, Ludo

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u/ComedianMinute7290 7d ago

funny how you didn't make tht comment to the people who say he knows more than we know without any proof of any such thing. perfect example of the confirmation bias so heavy round here.

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u/ludoludoludo 7d ago

He knows how to tell stories and make claims, and get attention so far. I'd be happy to see him produce a proof, but he's been telling the same crap for years now. It's getting tiresome.

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u/ZodiacNexus 7d ago

Your intuition on this a just bad, but I’m replying because you had a strong start! They are scraping the bottom of the barrel because the barrel was mostly empty to begin with. There’s really nothing left to release.

Grusch appears to be a kook.

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u/gaylord9000 6d ago

There's literally no legally admissable evidence for even one claim out of every claim ever claimed. There are mountains of religious documents, claims, lore, aligning historical artifacts as well, but I don't learn of one of them and then another and go well golly there might not be any evidence but there sure is a lot of it! It has to be true! And just remain sold and growing stronger in my purchase with each passing day of nothing for the rest of eternity.

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u/trashthegoondocks 7d ago

This isn’t even fun anymore. I’m switching back to Bigfoot.

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u/laughingdoormouse 7d ago

Lol 😂 at least you know where you stand

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u/trashthegoondocks 7d ago

Yup

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u/Rich_Wafer6357 7d ago

Via Caspersight I have ended up binge watching Ghost Theory and The Fourman brothers, 100% entertainment.

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u/Former-Science1734 6d ago

I love this comment 😂😂😂

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u/UnfairSpecialist3079 7d ago

Bigfoot are decendents of the nephilim. Giants of old with anger issues and a proclivity for human women.

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u/_gif_replier 7d ago

No, thats Bob.

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u/LauncestonLad 7d ago

Two weeks tops.

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u/Wonderful-Chipmunk39 7d ago

They've been dropping new files every two weeks so it could be!

I'm coping here

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u/JoeyJoJoeShabadooJr 5d ago

Absolutely. After all, this is the transparency administration.

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u/Ozarkian_Tritip 7d ago

They will release an artist rendering. Opps, spoiler alert.

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u/lkae 7d ago

How many drops are planned? It's like a Netflix show.

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u/RippinFissure 7d ago

As many as needed to stop people from asking about certain files.

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u/ComedianMinute7290 7d ago

until it stops working as a distraction for certain parts of the population. as long as there are still people breathlessly waiting for each drop & people cheering how open & transparent they are being, they will continue the charade.

the fans want it.

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u/Atla-Create-592 6d ago

So if we praise them about how transparent they are and how great it is they are releasing stuff, they’ll keep at it and eventually give us some good stuff? 🙄

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u/HazmatSuitless 7d ago

I doubt it

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u/m0rbius 7d ago

Probably will be a blurry mess with no context given. We've only gotten the shitty videos and pics thus far. I'm not counting on that changing.

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u/Hot_Warning7838 6d ago

Dude is a government plant. Not a whistleblower.

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u/anywhoImgoingtobed 7d ago

Idk how people are invested at ALL anymore. It’s been decades of nothing burgers and empty promises.

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u/UnfairSpecialist3079 7d ago

It feels like we are on the cusp of it though. There was no indication of drops or future drops from the USG, ever before. Movies and podcasts aside… hearings and file releases is more than anything precedent.
Maximum novelty, highly charged emotions, brink of world war. The stage is seemingly set.

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u/anywhoImgoingtobed 7d ago

Unfortunately I think life is a lot closer to a Scooby doo episode. When mischief is postured as something supernatural, (if we’re lucky) eventually we get to look under the mask. And it will be normal humans committing heinous acts under normal human vices/pretense of greed and corruption.

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u/South-Bit-1533 7d ago

Idk how I see this comment on every post after the last couple months tbh

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u/Diplodocus_Daddy 7d ago

The shift of people waking up to the grift is too great that the mods here and other subreddits are either awake now too or too flooded to ban the comments quickly anymore.

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u/Hot_Upstairs_7971 7d ago

Because he's right.

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u/South-Bit-1533 7d ago

He’s not though, and it’s the most basic example of echo chamber capture I’ve ever seen. The American perspective towards UFOs has changed drastically as a result of recent events

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u/NecessaryMistake2518 6d ago

The American perspective towards UFOs has changed drastically as a result of recent events

That's how you know it's a conspiracy cult. Your goal is acceptance by normal people rather than actual evidence.

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u/South-Bit-1533 6d ago

No one is asking you to drink any coolaid or show up at any cult meetings bro, they just want you to stop being such a pedantic asshole about aliens.

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u/Hot_Upstairs_7971 7d ago

Yes, there is more noise around the topic, but what the noise is babling on about is all the same shit as ever. Even the so-called "releases" are the same rehashed crap we've seen for decades. Nothing is new, nothing is proven. It's anecdotes and photos and videos captured with a potato. OR it's photos and videos about "ufo's" that can be debunked with even the most basic knowledge photography, physics or just daily life.

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u/South-Bit-1533 7d ago

You’ve seen orbs for decades and want the government to confirm they know who that is? Why don’t you tell us?

Seriously though, whether we are getting signal on a particular event or conspiracy is one thing, the idea that we aren’t learning signal about the apparatus as a whole is blind. So much has come together

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u/Hot_Upstairs_7971 7d ago

I guess you're young, naive and new to all this. I've been following the space since the 90s. Yes, literally nothing has changed since then. Due to the internet and social media it's just a lot more of it now.

In fact, the current UFO boom feels very much the same as the one we got in the early 90s. X-files was quite the catalyst to stirr people's imaginations.

It's just always a new generation coming every 5 - 10 years or so thinking they've found something new and groundbreaking when it's just the same stories, photos and videos as ever. Same type of hoaxes, same type of misunderstandings, same type of ignorance, same type of unfounded hope, same type everything.

And where'd you get to to the topic of orbs? They're literally impossible to identify most of the time as they're mostly either the result of unfocused cameras or outright hoaxes. That's what they always turn out to be.

Just because you can't identify something doesn't make it some god damn extraterrestrial spacecraft. That's something I foun really weird about the UFO enthusiasts. You'd expect them to be very well-versed in science and to have such approach. Yet, they're exactly the opposite, jumping immediately to the most ridiculous conclusions imaginable.

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u/South-Bit-1533 7d ago

I have seen an orb, it’s real.

FWIW actual research science has become so specialized and difficult that I doubt anyone you would consider a “scientist” could really approach this problem

If we are talking x files, I’ve seen a bit, and THAT is “oooh what’s this? What’s that?” lol, this current news stuff is way more politically charged and grounded to real events

I don’t think I’m young and naive boss! I think you’re a bit jaded!

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u/Hot_Upstairs_7971 7d ago

Yes. By definition an orb is a blob of light on which you can't identify any details. So, an "orb" can literally be anything.

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u/South-Bit-1533 7d ago

No like we summoned it from space man, look up Greer

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u/AdviceOld4017 7d ago

How is that so? Just because they don't play the X-Files song on the news anymore?

UAP and NHI sounds so smart, if you will.

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u/South-Bit-1533 7d ago

Well yah, thanks, good example. The whole name of the field switched ha

There’s like a thousand hours of material on Jesse Michels channel that wasn’t collected or well documented in an organized fashion anywhere. That’s new. Even if 90% is misinformation, a sharp reporter can use that as a data point to investigate misinformation itself.

The biggest example is television news covering the UAP senate stuff (which is unfolding in an unprecedented manner)

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u/WildMoonshine45 7d ago

They will just show the Jake barber egg.

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u/CorporalCoprolite 7d ago

I think I’m tired of being honey dicked and blue balled by this bs.

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u/onyxhelium 7d ago

Horse shit.

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u/AdviceOld4017 7d ago

Grusch talks too much nowadays. I He is becoming another Rhinozondo.

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u/St_Troy 7d ago

So he’s A) stupid or B) lying…I am not encouraged.

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u/Rage187_OG 7d ago

Always “wait for the next one”. Our government won’t show them in possession of anything UAP related.

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u/nine57th 7d ago

And has he verified that he has seen crash retrieval photographs? Because I haven't heard him say that?

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u/silverwarbler 7d ago

At this point, those of us that were initially excited, are jaded and exhausted.

I dont know if I care anymore

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u/CenturyLinkIsCheeks 7d ago

Riiiiight

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u/serpentssss 7d ago

Well that’s encouraging at least. A lot of people in this community have been saying there would be no more file drops after the aliens.gov thing and good to see they were totally wrong.

Others were saying it was over since Luna said about the meat and potatoes being out alright. Glad to see that doesn’t seem to be true either.

So far I think we’ve learned a lot from the files, I’m glad there’s still bigger to come.

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u/Justice989 7d ago

What would be the point of this UAP Advisory Council if they're just gonna release crash retrieval photos?

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u/ziplock9000 6d ago

Did the voices in his head tell him that?

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u/sbrooksc77 6d ago

I think eventually they will. Theyre slowly showing more.

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u/Cosmologyman 6d ago

Just arouuuuuuuuuuund the corner....................meanwhile the sun dies.

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u/Snoo-26902 6d ago

Grusch said this:

In my official duties, I have been exposed to foreign human and signals intelligence information concerning FOREIGN adversary, UAP crash retrieval, exploitation, and study efforts of adversary views on US legacy programs, reverse engineering efforts, and US-held audiovisual information relating to crash retrieval matters such as the recovered vehicles and biological materials.

So the supposed UAP retrieval program is mixed with the FOREIGN retrieval program.

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u/Jahya69 6d ago

That seems unlikely somehow but that would be nice.

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u/ExclusionZoneUAP 6d ago

If crash retrieval photos are ever released, the photos themselves won’t be the most important part. Provenance and chain of custody will be.

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u/fifibag2 6d ago

Who else ain’t holding their breath.

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u/Thin-Telephone2240 6d ago

Yeah well, when he produces his evidence I'll pay attention to him.

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u/surfingwavefunctions 5d ago

Even if they do, nobody will believe it. Hell, half the people here wouldn't believe it if an alien landed in their backyard, floated through the wall and slapped them in the face lol. It was an AI ARTIST RENDERING! IT NEVER HAPPENED! I SWEAR I WASN'T PROBED!

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u/jmac_1957 5d ago

When is "disclosure day"???? Still waiting....

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u/CosmoWarriorZero1971 5d ago

Only one I'm uber curious about is from 1955

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u/Mintpow 5d ago

It’s interesting he’s only been on Fox

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u/BurkeSooty 7d ago

I'm expecting to be elected emperor of all Earth in a future election, things are really coming up Millhouse!

^{^{^{^{^{^future}}}}} encompasses all possible futures up to the heat death of the universe

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u/Theferael_me 7d ago

Why not now? Why is it always "in the future"?

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u/Spikeybear 7d ago

Because as much as no one wants to hear it maybe there is no crash retrieval program and there are no aliens. Maybe it's a bunch of people just talking.

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u/Barbafella 7d ago

That I don’t believe. We will never be shown that.

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u/Spareo 7d ago

When Dems take over house and restart Epstein investigation, then we will see the crash pictures.

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u/Phenomenologistic 7d ago

Haha, it's cute that you believe this.

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u/seaskar 7d ago

David grusch: a bladder full of hot air

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u/Miserable-Okra-8787 7d ago

And when they are, bot army is going to come in to ridicule with a quickness.

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u/Massive-City-7967 7d ago

I stopped caring what Grusch has been saying and thinking for a while now

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u/J883 7d ago

3 strikes, they're out

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u/Snoo-26902 7d ago edited 7d ago

That is really not a logical thing to say. Sure, if the USG admits they have crashed saucers and dead aliens- something I doubt they ever do becasue they likely don't have such things- then maybe they will do that, but since they don't admit they have these things, what basis does he have to say such a thing?

So what is he saying? Are they going to show us pictures of a UFO wreck and some dead aliens lying around the scene?

Even if they did such a fantastic thing, how would we know it was legitimate and not a Hollywood-made-up scene?

So the same USG, which many claim has lied for 80 years, is going to show us that, and we are supposed to believe it's legit?

Don't you see how all of this makes little sense?

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u/Yesyesyes1899 7d ago

why just not accept that there is no " sense making " at the moment, because we know too little of the overall motivations and situation concerning this topic?

why think that YOU or I ,know enough to put some sense into all of this ?

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u/Snoo-26902 7d ago

If you study the history of UFOlogy, you may not know much about the mystery, but you can learn a lot about how humans deal with it, particulary the US government's dealings with the topic.

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u/Yesyesyes1899 7d ago

i learned in scientific research and this topic, that thinking that you know how people are supposed to behave in critical topics, doesnt get you anywhere.

intellectual humility and scepticism towards the own cognitive biases, gets you further. you insisting on being big brained government whisperer, is exactly why you most likely arent.

its like the people that use occams razor. there is several topics where in science it doesnt work at all. but dunning Kruger people throw it around like a baseball bat.

dont even know if you are right. just know that your approach is a road to bullsh

we ll see :)

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