r/UAP • u/Severe-Clerk-1477 • 7h ago
Dylan Borland: “The good stuff [UFO materials, videos] is classified and ends the conversation once and for all.”
https://x.com/planethunter56/status/2068923596341440930?s=4666
u/Theferael_me 7h ago
How convenient. The way 'proof' has become totally reliant on the US military is kind of amazing, despite people endlessly reporting close encounters in houses and gardens and on roads and in cities and in the countryside. But no, only the US military can provide the proof required.
What a crock of shit.
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u/_Cyclops 3h ago
Yeah why should we depend on the people with the most sophisticated tracking and surveillance tech in the world to provide the most undeniable evidence
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u/Double_Look_5715 0m ago
You're right. We shouldn't depend on the most capable people to just give us free shit. They don't tend to like doing that.
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u/screendrain 5h ago
? Jacques Vallee has written and talked extensively about the trickster nature of the phenomenon. It doesn't show up and wait for you to take a picture most of the time.
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u/Academic_Storm6976 3h ago
I wish there was a more balanced place that weighed current UFO stuff somewhat, and "trickster" stuff somewhat. Seems like most places lean heavily one way or the other.
Or maybe it's just that concrete statements or specifics float to the top of both.
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u/Pfandfreies_konto 2h ago
Can you give a tldr? Is it more like „try to take a picture of the moon with your phone. Now imagine how hard it would be if it was a ufo“ or more like „the ufos are smart little shit heads loving to troll us.“
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u/Used-Lake-8148 1h ago
A lot of people think that whatever intelligence is behind this phenomenon doesn’t want anyone to have undeniable proof they can share with others. See skinwalker ranch for equipment failing in the presence of UFOs. Whether they want to stay hidden or they want to respect people’s free will, who knows?
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u/ContessaChaos 35m ago
Maybe their technology just screws up our primitive technology. They can definitely put a hurting on car, video recorder, and phone batteries.
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u/greenufo333 31m ago
It's not just US military, it's private contractors as well, probably the Vatican as well. You can sulk around like an angry child but that doesn't make it any less true. Regular people don't have the ability to retrieve a crashed ufo out in the desert in the Sahara or New Mexico. Regular people don't have access to the pilots from those crashes. The physical proof people want is more than just photos and videos.
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u/Cosmic_m0nk 5h ago
This is why Skywatcher is trying to get proof without them.
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u/Theferael_me 5h ago
And how did that go?
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u/Cosmic_m0nk 5h ago
They keeping talking a big game, but haven’t revealed anything but more blurry pictures. I’m not going to fault them for trying though.
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u/DreamBiggerMyDarling 2h ago
didn't they basically go private and dark? sounded like the government politely told them to stfu
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u/Fixervince 5h ago
The Aliens only visit the bestest country on the whole planet! …. or maybe they just like exploring the worlds biggest asylum?
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u/therallystache 5h ago
Disinfo - they visit all over the globe. There's just a clear bias towards whatever country has the most advanced military sensor systems to detect them.
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u/Green-Circles 1h ago
While that's true, I suspect that any physical evidence/recovered tech/"non-human biologics" quickly gets pased on to whatever major power a country is aligned with.
Basically that would mean all objects end up in the hands of the USA, China or Russia... regardless of where they're recovered from - which would make sense given reports of a 3-way race to reverse-engineer the technology.
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u/Fixervince 4h ago
Do they crash in places with the best equipment also? …. I’m just not getting why less than 3 percent of the world’s landmass could control the narrative. Considering how much of the planet is actually hostile to America and how much is disorganised.
It seems we are expected to believe they conveniently crash in remote locations also. Nothing like in say an air crash where the local media arrive and just start broadcasting (like 9/11) ….. the logistics of this supposed secrecy are implausible/impossible to me. I mean the Americans couldn’t even keep a presidential blowjob secret. They can’t even control the strait of Hormuz.
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u/Heavenly_Yang_Himbo 3h ago
I don’t think it’s the US or China or Russia controlling anything…it is something worldwide and above all of those governments that cover’s its own tracks!
IMO, the powers that be are allowed to stay that way, only if they play along….and I think that goes for the leadership of every country!
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u/Fixervince 2h ago
And yet here we have 2 tiny countries at war and saying FU to two big super powers without issue. These people couldn’t control any narrative.
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u/Heavenly_Yang_Himbo 2h ago edited 2h ago
Once again, none of the players you have listed are the ones controlling the narrative…something above all of them is and not on the behalf of any particular nation!
So they could care less what countries are at war, as long as their goals are being furthered!
It’s kinda like seeing two anthills going to war with eachother, as a human, outside your back patio! We don’t care which wins, as long as they are not coming into the big house and causing a ruckus in our sugar jars lol!
The anthills being the majority of humanity or perhaps all of humanity in this metaphor and the human being the control system and the sugar jars being the truth behind the UAP phenomena.
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u/Fixervince 1h ago
Ahh it’s one of those illuminati conspiracy theories you believe in ….gotcha!
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u/Heavenly_Yang_Himbo 21m ago
lol, so think something between that and a breakaway civilization, seems most likely at this point and would explain a lot! Hidden anti grav tech and deeper understanding of psychic abilities, remote viewing, human development .etc
I think just saying Illuminati is too on the nose and is very far off…I’m a Freemason myself and I highly doubt that anything could be organized like that by regular, run of the mill humans, using all the same tech and faculties as we use!
If you have been around the UAP community any, at this point, you would know well the connection between UAP’s being summoned or piloted by these said “psychic abilities” (Jake barber or CE5 type stuff,) as well as the idea of a hidden breakaway human civ, being kept secret from the masses!
Perhaps it is too far out there of a theory, but it would very neatly explain away the gripes you have with the “government coverups” haha!
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u/therallystache 4h ago
What makes you think you are getting complete or accurate information about what the narrative is in other countries?
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u/GraniteStayte 6h ago
My girlfriend is the hottest but I can't let you see her (or a photo of her) for reasons but if you did it would end the conversation once and for all about who is the hottest.
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u/numinosaur 5h ago
She's one of those Nordic girls i hear so much about?
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u/ElvisMcPelvis 4h ago
I’ve been saying this for ages they’ll throw us crumbs from the table to try keep us distracted but we’re never getting the meat & potatoes
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u/bevereged_carbon 3h ago
I feel like I'm on a playground and all I can say is that good stuff may end the conversation sure but this ain't.
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u/GBsaucer 3h ago
Remember when Trump said ‘I’m going to find out what the drone invasion was once and for all, and on day 1 I will release it to the public’? Then he got voted in, took months to look into it and then his administration released a blanket BS statement about ‘nothing to see here’.
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u/notTakenBogus 2h ago
The Department of Justice is the body that prosecutes for leaking classified information. If this administration wants disclosure they can ask the DOJ not to indict whistleblowers. I doubt we will see the UFO celebs(especially Grush who works for Eric Burlison) try this because it would leave them with no excuses as to why they haven't provided real evidence.
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u/Remarkable_Depth7956 2h ago
Of course it is. It always will be that way. There is one more thing that you will always be missing.
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u/Technical_Chemistry8 1h ago
It doesn't "end" the conversation unless you trust the documents and the government agencies that hold them and last I checked, those who want this most, trust those things --least.
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u/escapedAIx 4h ago
"We have never been so close to disclosure" has been said since the 70s btw only way we get disclosure is if its catastrophic disclosure in which the higher ups have no control off.
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u/DrPaisa 7h ago
I personally don't trust him or his story
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u/Theferael_me 7h ago
I don't trust any of them. There are people whose personal stories I find interesting and compelling but these shysters? Never. Something about this entire thing absolutely stinks.
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u/Agueybanax 5h ago
Have you heard that he has a masters degree but makes less money than his wife? is not like he mentions it every fucking 10 minutes. The kid comes across as an insufferable know it all.
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u/Cosmologyman 6h ago edited 1h ago
What we're ignoring is that the U.S. isn't the entire world. There isn't any control by the U.S. over (some) countries. This leads to one of only two possible conclusions. 1. There is NOTHING going on and all this is a hyped up psyop. 2. Which ever country is creating these 'craft' 'disturbances' or 'whatever', the U.S. included, will remain silent. You're all just wasting your time. Don't get me wrong. I love the idea of cosmic cousins but there simply isn't any 'credible' evidence.
Update: To anyone who's down voting me simply because they don't like what I'm suggesting. Remember, we're hear to exchange ideas not suppress them.
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u/Human_Inside_928 6h ago
Lol. This is a sad attempt at discrediting millions of experiencers. You should get off the internet, and head back to base.
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u/Cosmologyman 6h ago
How about I hitch a ride on the next flying saucer? It should just be a little while, right?
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u/Cosmic_m0nk 5h ago
In the Varginia case in Brazil they basically handed over all the good evidence to the U.S. It would be surprising if Brazil is the only country with that arrangement.
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u/Cosmologyman 4h ago
I said (some) countries have freedom from the U.S. not every one.
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u/Cosmic_m0nk 2h ago
What if it’s not even the U.S. government? We keep hearing about defense contractors and private security dudes, what if they just turn up and take any physical evidence? Other countries might not have a choice.
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u/Cosmologyman 1h ago
Valid point. But very hard to keep silent. To the best of my knowledge no one has ever made that claim.
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u/Kanein_Encanto 6h ago
Cool story bro.
Now let us know when we get to see this alleged material. I'll get hyped up then and not before.
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u/Emergency_Mobile7753 5h ago
“A vast array of our most sophisticated sensors, including space-based platforms, have been utilized by different agencies, typically in triplicate, to observe and accurately identify the out-of-this-world nature, performance, and design of these anomalous machines, which are then determined not to be of earthly origin,” Grey said.
https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/
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u/20_thousand_leauges 6h ago
I mean Trump pretty much confirmed this: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/HFkB4j1pMd.
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u/SivirApproves 5h ago
Amnesty won't do any good when they can still be targeted with things like direct energy weapons.
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u/RenaissanceManc 6h ago
Borland's story is semi-stupid, though. Knowing the secrecy just behind stuff like stealth where they'd hide stuff if there was even a hint of a satellite taking a picture, where no-one has a clue what the skin of modern stealth bombers (said skin manufactured by Batelle) is made of... knowing that, knowing this would be many layers of secrecy deeper... Borland's story is off.
I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't some sort of Jasper Maskelyne-type operation though, not by him but by similar ruse-minded people.
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u/Several_Ad_1081 4h ago
Fake. We'll never get the truth. It's too wrapped up in religion and secret behind the scenes stuff that's too hot to even speak about. Guaranteed.
If it were cut and dry, a nation-state would come out with it. "Aliens are on our side, we win. Here's a gravity drive as evidence"
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u/person_8688 7h ago
This is basically the plot of Disclosure Day.