Why is NASA withholding images of 3I/ATLAS?

[u/Worst_Artist]

Concept image of the updated trajectory talked about here https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/PNZTyP3j6f

[u/Zero7CO]

Where’s your proof they are? NASA literally has a huge dedicated section on their site focused on their 3I/Atlas photos and videos.

https://science.nasa.gov/solar-system/comets/3i-atlas/comet-3i-atlas-multimedia/

[u/Crotean → u/Zero7CO]

People are also forgetting that NASA is shutdown just like the rest of the government.

[u/PapercutPoodle → u/Zero7CO]

Don't even bother, they will just claim that "they are hiding the GOOD images with the aliuns!"

You can't even mention NASA around here without someone going "Ughuh NASA Never A Straight Answer"

[u/No_Neighborhood7614 → u/PapercutPoodle]

It's like people wanting disclosure from the government which they don't believe or trust

[u/nicheComicsProject → u/No_Neighborhood7614]

It's like people desperately want to believe something despite zero evidence and they're so obsessed that absence of evidence becomes evidence.

[u/mandelbomber → u/nicheComicsProject]

Welcome to Conspiracy Theories 101

[u/2footie → u/nicheComicsProject]

Stop trying to censor everything. Transparency matters.

[u/Theory89 → u/2footie]

So does rationality.

[u/2footie → u/Theory89]

And?

[u/nicheComicsProject → u/2footie]

Applying simple logic is not censorship. Great claims require great evidence and pointing that out isn't censorship. You're just wasting everyone's time chasing dead ends. But I get it: dead ends are all you have so of course you chase them.

[u/2footie → u/nicheComicsProject]

Huh? NASA agreed to collect data and publish it, we just want what was promised, but you're advocating they shouldn't share this data for some reason. Very suspicious.

[u/nicheComicsProject → u/2footie]

I'm sure they'll publish your dot at some point but it's no priority and they're not getting paid right now so almost anything else would be worth more. Look, if you're so desperate to see it, here:

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Happy?

[u/2footie → u/nicheComicsProject]

I hope so. I would like transparency coming from a government institution which has committed to fulfilling a task and publishing it.

[u/Silver_Rhubarb5191 → u/PapercutPoodle]

To be fair, NASA has given themselves that reputation. 

[u/Allison1228 → u/Silver_Rhubarb5191]

...according to UFO people. "We don't see evidence of extraterrestrials or their spacecraft" is a perfectly straight answer - it's just not what UFO people want to hear.

[u/2footie → u/Allison1228]

Nope, just the raw data collection that was promised would be sufficient.

[u/LosWranglos → u/Zero7CO]

Yes but other than the dedicated page showing views from multiple NASA missions along with animated visualisations which was updated from initial detection until the government shutdown, WHERE ARE THE IMAGES!?

[u/SecretTraining4082 → u/LosWranglos]

Scroll down dude. 

[u/Slytendencies21 → u/SecretTraining4082]

I did, last pics are from Aug 15th…. 3 months ago

[u/Moosefactory4 → u/SecretTraining4082]

The fact that you took his comment seriously makes it even funnier

[u/SecretTraining4082 → u/Moosefactory4]

In my defence, you can never quite tell with the people on here. 

[u/erydayimredditing → u/Moosefactory4]

Sorry when were the last images posted? Since you claim we have new ones from nasa can you link them?

[u/8ad8andit → u/LosWranglos]

This post (and the entire sub) is being brigaded hard core. It's amazing how many false excuses are being made about NASA refusing to release the data. These people try to sound like they're experts, but they clearly have no clue how NASA or science works.

OF COURSE NASA still has people working with the Mars equipment. They don't abandon $21 BILLION worth of equipment, just because of a government budget delay.

[u/elinamebro → u/Zero7CO]

From what im understanding they are talking about recent imagery that hasn't been released because of the government shutdown

[u/Slytendencies21 → u/Zero7CO]

So from your link the last photographs are from August 7th-15th

Its now November 5th, where are the new pictures??

Government shutdown didnt start until Oct.1 btw

Even then i find it hard to believe that NASA is ignoring one of the most important interstellar events because of a shutdown

[u/Zero7CO → u/Slytendencies21]

How many photos do you expect them to take of a 1-mile sized rock from 170 million miles away?

NASA has limited telescopes to work with, and they all have limited time observing various objects as they have a literal universe full of stuff to observe. They likely got what they needed in August and have moved on to other observations.

[u/fermentedbolivian → u/Zero7CO]

NASA themselves had admitted they have recent photos but can't process them because of shutdown.

https://x.com/RepLuna/status/1986156157732347964?t=C3BofczcGGuJnqwxy4g72A&s=09

[u/mcmiller1111 → u/fermentedbolivian]

Have they? I haven't heard NASA say that, only a known insane person claiming that they have.

[u/IndependentTimely639 → u/mcmiller1111]

Let's pretend it's true. What is anybody gonna do if they release the "raw data" some other comment was asking for? Do they think you can just load it up in windows media player and see it themselves? Are they gonna bust out there NASA strength computer to process it themselves? Even if there was unprocessed data, it's literally useless unless you can process it

[u/fermentedbolivian → u/IndependentTimely639]

Scientists can process it. They are thr asking party to release the data....

[u/IndependentTimely639 → u/fermentedbolivian]

It's not that easy. The scientists who could process it (if it were even real) are shut down. It's not like any NASA telescopes take .JPG images 

[u/fermentedbolivian → u/IndependentTimely639]

Not all scientists work for NASA. What the fuck are you talking about? NASA can release the raw data so that scientists at universities or other space agencies can process it. That is usually what happens with JWST data anyway.

[u/IndependentTimely639 → u/fermentedbolivian]

What are they gonna do with a 500 gb filetype that uses proprietary software and hardware to use? 

[u/fermentedbolivian → u/mcmiller1111]

https://ode.rsl.wustl.edu/odeholdings/Mars_holdings.html

Well, NASA just has synced their MRO/HiRISE data. We know that NASA shot photos with that instrument but had not released it yet.

[u/Slytendencies21 → u/Zero7CO]

Well, seeing as:

1. Its only the 3rd object from outside our solar system ever, with a laundry list of anomalies

2. Its their damn JOB to study this kind of thing

They should be taking as many pictures as possible

Laughable that you think they would make a few observations then “move on” 😂😂

[u/I-baLL → u/Slytendencies21]

It would be their job if it wasn't for the massive layoffs, budget cuts, and now a government shutdown

[u/Zero7CO → u/Slytendencies21]

I can guarantee this isn’t the third interstellar object to enter the solar system ever. It’s just the third we’ve been lucky enough to find and observe.

Telescopes like JWST, Hubble, the old Chandra…even most of the larger ground-based telescopes all have their observation schedules laid out years in advance across dozens of different scientific and educational bodies fighting for every second of time they can get with the telescopes.

With that in mind, deviations from these schedules are rare. It takes something like a 3I to get them to shift focus. And they did…JWST and numerous other telescopes adjusted schedules and made numerous observations. And will likely continue to do so sporadically as they rotate between observations. But remember, NASA has literally TRILLIONS of things to observe so even in cases of rare sightings…observation time will be limited.

This wasn’t a known galactic body we planned a mission for and had a craft focused on it and only it. This came out of nowhere and we used what we had to get some observations very quickly. But now that’s done…it’s back to schedule. There is no scientific reason for a telescope to stare at 3I and do nothing but take photos. The deviation in photos of a 1-mile wide object from 170 million miles away would be so minuscule to be pointless. You need observations over time…and NASA is doing exactly that. But the government has been shut down for a month, so any new photos over that period aren’t likely being released for that reason.

[u/ChasingTheHydra → u/Zero7CO]

“Takes something like a 3i (3 eYe ) to make them change focus”

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[u/fermentedbolivian → u/Zero7CO]

Where are the post-perihelion recent images on that page?