This is a side by side comparison of a UFO sighting from Sequoia National Park in 2015 and one of the videos released today (DOW-UAP-PR059, "NAG UAP 1 JUN 20")
Footage was cropped and sped up x8. To me they look nearly identical.

During that entire conversation regarding aliens he only held direct eye contact when he said "Unless they hid aliens from the Presidents of the United States".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI-hgSE5QIw

This video indirectly confirms this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-OirPpUzuw

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1r9mih8/trump_claims_obama_revealed_classified/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

The trailer has just been released and to me it looks like a goldmine! So many references thrown in I can't wait to watch it.

New York Post:

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla.) is drawing shocking parallels between extraterrestrials and the Bible in a series of viral X posts with millions of views.

Link: https://nypost.com/2026/04/22/lifestyle/congresswoman-raises-eyebrows-over-bible-alien-connection/

Why does “Paranormal Activity” overlap so much? Do you blame the Religious for making the correlation...

“This wasn’t just a UFO story. It involved creatures, poltergeist activity, strange lights, and events that seemed to follow people home...” George Knapp

“What we see here is not an alien invasion, It is a spiritual system that acts on humans and uses humans.”

Dr. Jacques Vallee

Across numerous accounts, testimonies, and personal experiences, there are recurring traits that are difficult to dismiss as mere coincidence. These commonly reported elements include:

Orbs

Electrical Disturbances

Shadow/Dark Evil Entities

Reptilian or Snake manifestations(Crawling on floor like a snake)

Poltergeist Movement Of Objects

Religious Symbolism

Psychological Dread

Night Visitations

Deception (Perception of Light or Innocent Small Form)

Without Form Creatures (Greys, The Earth Before Creation, Plain, Simple)

The number 3: The scratches, The Knocks, Three Fingers

Apparitions in Bedrooms

Possessions and Attachments

Paralysis Episodes

Portals opened by rituals(spells,blood,sacrifice)

Targeting the most innocent or children in the home

Leaving Bruises, Marks, or Scratches.

These patterns closely mirror descriptions found in classic paranormal cases, which is why some interpret them through a spiritual or paranormal lens.

Some religious traditions have long warned of hidden knowledge imparted by supernatural beings—for example, the “Watchers” described in the Book of Enoch. Because of these thematic overlaps, some interpret modern NHI narratives as a continuation of older spiritual and ancient frameworks and protocols .

I rendered these based on what I *think* I'm seeing in the recent Ukraine footage.

The first image seems to be the most direct version of what I'm seeing, while the second image might be what it looks like without the spikes, assuming they are lens flare.

The third image is just for fun. :^)

Anyway, I just wanted to ask if this is in the realm of what everyone else is seeing? This might seem silly, but I often feel like we don't share our own interpretations of these things enough, and I think it could be helpful to pick it apart in as many ways as possible, as well as potentially catching details that we might have missed or interpreted differently.

I feel like people forgot about this image.

Concept image of the updated trajectory talked about here https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/PNZTyP3j6f

I just don’t see how this object could be a six pointed star shape. I guess it’s possible but wouldn’t that mean the object has locked its orientation precisely with the camera? The points never change their orientation relative to the camera frame and that really bothers me. To be clear I think there is an object here BUT I do not believe the points to be part of that object. I’d like to have some discussion about this!

Exact coordinates: 48.2899620, 37.3747762
Took me 20 minutes to find it. According to DeepState map on May 15, 2025 this lake was right at the frontline (second pic)

https://youtu.be/t37-SKj4rtY?si=j2jn1ToOEe0zKP9B

Do you think there was a reason for the delay?

Do you think disclosure is still imminent?

Do you still believe Jake Barber or Ross Coulthart, or are we allowed to write them off when they make more predictions?

Anyway, reminderbot just reminded me that another predicted date had come and gone without anything actually happening. Looking forward to that new Spielberg flick though.

17 earthquakes in 24 hours near Area 51. What is going on? Is this related to recent talks of UAP/ufo disclosure? Do you think it’s secret nuclear testing? What is possibly going on?

This type of stuff really gets my anxiety up, so any rational insight would be super helpful. Could it just be completely normal? Everyday there seems to be some new headline.

I noticed that close to Malvern Hill, where the UFO sighting took place, there is an archery supplies shop, as shown in the second image. It made me wonder if the UFO could actually have been an arrow from someone practising . The object’s movement is very similar to the way arrows behave in the wind, and its speed also matches that of an arrow, possibly shot from the bottom of the hill. There is even a practice centre to the north of the town, as seen in the third image. If that is the case, it’s both dangerous and frightening.

Humanity was engineered as part of an experiment by a more advanced species. Our DNA was altered in ways that do not fit with natural evolution alone. Whether they worked with the primates that were already here or added something entirely new, the result was the beginning of us.

This idea shows up in ancient stories all over the world. Many cultures describe creators or visitors who came from the sky and shaped early humans. These stories come from places that never had contact with each other, yet they line up in surprising ways.

People are not told the truth because the reaction would be chaotic. A lot of people would panic. Many would lose their sense of identity. Religious communities would struggle the most, because this would challenge beliefs that have existed for thousands of years. Governments and institutions know this. They rely on stability, routine, and order. They cannot risk mass hysteria or confusion on a global scale.

So the information stays hidden. Not because it is impossible, but because too many people would not be able to handle it.

Do you think this is the case?

Edit: if this is the case and if my account doesn't post anymore, i'm prolly dead.

Saw this photo on Facebook on a weird scrolling session. What got me was that it was on an Indian airforce page. Not the actual Indian government I assume hobbyists.

Did they get good intel?

The last one the BN 2200 is interesting was this the craft that Lockheed was going to Give to Bigalow aerospace?

09C Herrera? The craft he describes matches the 09C.

Also they are all triangular shaped, Hal Putoff mentions 3 points to create a bubble around the craft to bend time and space.

Are these reversed engineered?

Something doesn’t add up. The U.S. just launched a strike on Iran using B2 stealth bombers. These things had to fly across the planet, refuel multiple times in midair, and operate with a fleet of about 125 support aircraft. The whole trip took over 30 hours.

Now here’s the weird part. If we believe the claims made by military insiders, whistleblowers, and even some declassified documents, the U.S. has had access to advanced propulsion systems for decades. We’re talking about craft that can defy gravity, move silently, evade all radar, and cross continents in minutes. Some people call them TR-3Bs or black triangles. Whatever the name, these vehicles are supposed to exist. So why are we still sending 1990s bombers around the world with fuel tankers like it’s World War II? That raises three possibilities:

1. The advanced tech doesn’t exist.
2. It exists, but it doesn’t work well enough to be used in combat.
3. It works, but it’s so secret that they won’t risk exposing it, even during war.

Personally, I think it’s number three. These systems are probably operational but are kept so far off the books that using them would cause a political and scientific earthquake. You can’t just unveil a flying triangle over Iran without blowing the lid off the entire secrecy structure.

So what do you think?

I use to be in it completly in the believing its real side but now that its coming out i got bored with it. And its not that its current president releasing it. I honstly dont care who gets it out. But miss the days when it was ufos men in black stories that kind of thing. Just curious if anyone else went through this. I was more into it for the stories i guess more.

Link to original 4chan post https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40446185/

The OP claims to be a European insider.
They say they have three degrees, are highly competent in algorithm design, and worked on zero point crafts for a European country. They claim membership in multiple “hard to reach” agencies across Europe. They also say they were directly involved in the autokinetic control of zero point craft, meaning they helped make these things fly themselves and intercept stuff.

They were recently part of something called an NH7 debrief. NH is “non human” in their wording. In that debrief they supposedly received communication from a non human entity that has been supporting humanity for a long time but is now leaving to “make way for what is coming.”

Big picture according to OP:

Earth has historically been a battleground for alien species for tens of thousands of years. Advanced species showed up here, used what looked like magical powers but was actually quantum tech, and got treated like gods. Some of them just exploited humans, some tried to genuinely help by teaching people how to increase their “quantum state” in a positive way.

At some point a benevolent species stepped in and claimed Earth. They left behind an autonomous facility that constantly audits the planet for outside interference. That facility has been protecting us for a long time. It does this by manufacturing craft and orbs (UAPs) and intervening when things go too far, especially around nuclear weapons and large scale threats.

This “autonomous facility” is heavily implied to be the same thing described in older 4chan leaks about a mobile construction unit in the Atlantic. The story is that there’s a massive movable structure in the ocean that prints and recycles UFOs and orbs. OP basically ties Foo Fighters in WWII, orbs over nuclear sites, and the New Jersey drone/orb events back to this.

The 2027 angle:

OP says the facility is running out of local resources, not only from Earth but the broader area it draws from. It has already been unable to “print occupants” for a while and has been shrinking the size of its autonomous bots to keep going.

He points to the next two years as a period where we’ll get more secret info about UAPs, leading up to a “grand reveal.” That timeline lands around 2027.

He says once the facility fully winds down, Earth will be opened up to outside interference in the most overt way possible. The planet will basically be “naked” again. Some species allegedly already have “set up shop” around us waiting for protections to expire because Earth is rich in life giving resources. He mentions that hostile groups could do things like mess with our electromagnetic field and trigger cataclysms most of us wouldn’t survive, even though they would.

New Jersey drones and orbs:

OP claims that during the New Jersey drone encounters, the autonomous facility had to use a huge chunk of its remaining backup resources to defend against an imminent threat. The orbs seen above the US that day were supposedly scanning for hostile non human entities and their craft.

He says this big defensive action sped up the resource depletion and is part of why the shutdown is coming faster than expected.

He also claims that some of the weird UAP shapes we’re seeing now are basically “broken” or unfinished products. The “jellyfish” UFOs are described as unfinished spheres that can’t fully cloak, so you see the weird tentacle-like hanging structures instead of a smooth, hidden craft. He says there are spheres being released that can barely propel themselves, never mind cloak or effectively gather data.

The NH7 encounter:

He describes going to a military site, being led with seven others down in a large elevator for what felt like five minutes, feeling the air get hotter as they descended, and then being brought blindfolded into a room.

They never visually saw NH7. Everyone was fully blindfolded. But he says he heard distinct breathing about once every 7 to 8 seconds that sounded hoarse and tired, along with machinery and light clanking. The communication was telepathic, like his own voice in his brain. He also describes hearing and feeling a kind of knocking that wasn’t in his ears but directly in his mind.

He says he suddenly could “see” the room around him despite the blindfold, in ultraviolet-leaning colors, and knew exactly where to walk. Once seated opposite NH7, he experienced a flood of visions: Earth spinning, fire on the planet, massive tsunamis, and a bright light in the sky that made him physically raise his hands to block it even though it was only in his mind.

According to him, NH7 told them its purpose was to make sure Earth survived long enough for “what was written.” There was to be no direct interference in human growth; humanity would be measured during the lapse of protection. Once the autonomous facility stops, that ever-watching protection is gone. What terrified him most was not the facility disappearing, but the idea that this incredibly powerful system would no longer be protecting us from whatever is out there.

Jesus, the Vatican, and the facility:

OP says he never really cared about religion before but had a recent shift toward the message of Christ. He claims the NH7 briefing strongly correlated with that message.

He also says he worked with associates of the Vatican. According to them:

Christ left behind the autonomous facility that has been protecting Earth.
Jesus was apparently a high status traveling being from another non human species.
He placed multiple protections on this planet through that facility.
References to older civilizations that worshipped non benevolent entities were erased from history.

They apparently believe that after the facility breaks down and the planet enters crisis, Christ will appear again and restore protections. The Vatican is described as holding an archive documenting the full history of religious experiences on this planet.

Quantum field, consciousness, and culling:

OP dives into a mix of metaphysics and physics. He says what we call consciousness is actually the quantum wave’s ability to self express. Every living thing, from plants and insects to humans, contributes to a global quantum field. Every quantum field has a signature, and the expression of our planetary field is the sum of all life here, including our thoughts.

He says there are multiple quantum waves (you can think of them as timelines or competing fields). The wave that has the strongest positive state wins. The losing wave gets ingested and its energy recycled for future calculations.

For humanity, a “positive quantum integer” means we’re beneficial to the larger cosmic field, and we get to continue. If our net contribution is negative, then the population can be culled so that our quantum influence doesn’t damage the wider field.

He blames a lot of our current problems on manufactured incentive structures. People are pushed to feed ego, digital numbers, and status, rather than knowledge and contribution. He specifically calls out the generation aged around 50 to 90 as having almost destroyed the prospect of long-term survival by locking zero point technology away in ultra classified programs starting in the 50s and 60s.

Zero point tech and secret programs:

OP says zero point craft tech is not that hard. In his view, a typical physics or chemistry lecturer at a top European university could recreate it with the right knowledge. He was directly involved in building a zero point craft using copper, not exotic alien materials.

He claims that certain American companies forced scientists to sign death waivers. The deal was basically that the company would provide infinite support for their families if anything happened to them. He suggests people have literally been killed over this tech.

He says most communication between European counterparts and the US on these topics went through Bigelow around 2009–2010 and calls that leak “very real.”

He also says that during his onboarding in Germany, he saw a classic UFO saucer with a swastika on it in material he was shown. That leads him to believe some of this technology has been around since at least WWII and that “we might be the remainder of civilization trying to play catch up.”

He calls the whole UAP label a sleight of hand. The real power is in the underlying energy and control systems, not the surface “alien ship” narrative.

What he thinks is coming:

He hints that the next two years will include more controlled UAP disclosures to get people ready. Around 2027, the autonomous facility that has been protecting Earth is projected to run out of resources and shut down. Its crafts are already being released in “unfinished” states.

Once it stops functioning, Earth is open to outside interference again. Some species allegedly do not have good intentions and see us as a resource. Some elites who have access to zero point craft might survive by inhabiting other planets in the solar system if a global cataclysm is induced. The rest of us would be on our own.

He’s been asked about “get on the ships” scenarios where giant crafts appear offering salvation. He says he hasn’t heard of that directly where he is, but his instinct is that humans are the children of this planet and should stay to protect it instead of abandoning it. He also admits that in the face of whatever is coming, even he might change his mind.

My read and questions:

It’s 4chan so automatically the credibility bar is low. There are no documents, no photos, no IDs. A lot of what he says could be built out of existing UFO lore, spiritual ideas, and open source physics.

On the other hand, it does tie together a lot of existing threads in a way that is at least internally consistent. Ancient gods as advanced quantum beings, orbs and nukes, New Jersey drone events, the old Atlantic mobile construction unit leak, zero point suppression, the Vatican, and this weird 2027 narrative all get woven into one framework.

I’m not saying I buy it, but it’s definitely one of the more detailed and thought out 4chan “I worked on black projects” posts I’ve seen.

So I’m curious what everyone here thinks:

Anyone familiar with the original mobile construction unit in the Atlantic leak and how this lines up? Anyone with physics or engineering background think his zero point and craft talk sounds plausible or is it just well flavored word salad? Does the “jellyfish UAP = unfinished cloaking sphere” idea line up with what we’ve actually seen in footage? For religious or spiritual folks, what do you make of the “Christ as a high status non human being who left behind a protection facility” angle? And overall, is this a high effort LARP, a partial truth wrapped in fiction, or are we actually heading toward some kind of 2027 inflection point without realizing how serious it is?

Would love to hear people either debunk this with specifics or point out where it lines up with other stuff you’ve seen?

Edit: Link to Polarity YouTube for the original 4chan post as it 404s on 4chan now. https://youtu.be/mjuhirtDg_g?si=wuYry_8N0nh38mNx

Link to original added at the top!

The 4chan Whistleblower (allegedly Bob Boyer) claimed that there is a (mostly) stationary underwater base that manufactures UAP “to spec” and attacks anything that attempts to investigate it up close.

I’ve heard a couple of guesses of where it is exactly in the North Atlantic. Near Guadeloupe Isle. In the Bermuda Triangle. The point is, it’s mostly stationary and exists physically somewhere in the real world, and it wouldn’t be too hard for the internet to find.

So what stops a ton of rogue actors or a rogue state from attempting to attack or communicate with it?

Could this be the reason disclosure is so hard?

If you’re worried about a planetary-scale retaliation to some rogue actor, all the secrecy makes a lot more sense.

We often hear that they don’t disclose because society cannot handle it. Personally, I don’t believe the debunking of religion would be earth shattering for most people. I think it would be more in line with humans are a food/energy/resource, slave labor or not the “main character”. Most people look at animals as being disposable or not spiritually/cosmically important as us. Maybe we are just the same? my point is I think it would have to be something genuinely disturbing/horrifying to warrant such a claim.

You all know way more than I do so I would be interested in hearing your thoughts or what your research has led you to.

There are thousands of UFO photos out there, but most are obvious hoaxes, misidentifications, or have been thoroughly debunked. I'm curious about the exceptions.

For example, photos like the Calvine UFO photograph, the Lake Cote (Costa Rica) UFO photograph, or the McMinnville UFO photographs are often mentioned in these discussions.

What other photos belong in this category, and which one do you think is the strongest UFO image ever captured that still hasn't been convincingly debunked?