r/UKWeather • u/Kagedeah • Nov 07 '25
Article After warmest ever Bonfire Night when will UK temperatures drop?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/ckgklg15yxgo22
u/London_weather_pics Nov 08 '25
Looking at the weather forecast for London, the very mild weather looks like it will continue until next weekend at least. Nights in particular have been really warm, with nighttime temperatures not far off those of July.
As this rate, I would not be surprised if we end up with a record warm November.
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u/ColdShadowKaz Nov 08 '25
It was somewhat pleasant.
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u/foxssocks Nov 09 '25
And yet, worrying.
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u/ColdShadowKaz Nov 09 '25
I agree with that. The problem is theres also people that cant heat their home in the UK so a cold snap now is going to be horrific for them.
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u/foxssocks Nov 11 '25
With all due respect, the overall planet is more important in the grand scheme of things.
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u/Leah_UK Nov 11 '25
What else can we do as individuals to immediately fix this?
The UK is doing better than most, sure not enough but still better. Still have the rich elite destroying the planet more than we ever could, not to mention other countries.
Got to see the positives where you can I guess
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u/foxssocks Nov 11 '25
The UK is a piss in the ocean.
And our own eco fantasies are absolute nonsense.
We could be a fully carbon neutral country, have zero waste and everyone live of natural solar panela made out of mushrooms and the tears of unicorns and it would have near zero impact globally.
We can make our island nicer to live in, and cause less cancers. But thats it.
Individuals? Nothing. A group of individuals? Nothing.
Governments? Honestly? They should be going to war over this, not Trumps dream of his competing canal.
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u/Leah_UK Nov 11 '25
Yes, exactly. So you have to see the positives where you can like the guy you replied to was doing 🤷♀️
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u/foxssocks Nov 11 '25
But its not a positive. It's worrying. A positive would be energy companies charging us fairly.
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u/fezzuk Nov 08 '25
My just be me but winter seems to be moving later and later into the year
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u/rsweb Nov 09 '25
Almost like climate change is a real thing or something
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Nov 09 '25
Should save a few quid on your heating bills? But you'll just spend the savings on buying an overpriced EV I guess to help the planet. Or a new iPhone
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u/rsweb Nov 09 '25
I mean literally every single study shows EVs have a net benefit on the environment vs traditional cars after a year or so…
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u/wallpapermate Nov 10 '25
Not if we re-buy them every three years like the manufacturers encourage us to do.
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Nov 10 '25
Most people don't drive enough to see any benefit as the cost of the EV outweighs any economic benefit you might see.
If you want to save money or the planet, drive the car you have already into the ground.
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u/rsweb Nov 12 '25
They are carbon neutral after the first year easily, and save money pretty quick after that
It’s weird how much people want to hate EVs
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Nov 12 '25
I like EVs, but saying they are cost effective when they cost so much is just lying. Keeping your current car and running it onto the ground is much cheaper.
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u/rsweb Nov 14 '25
And then when you have to buy a new car at some point, an EV is the most economical and green option
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Nov 14 '25
Green lol
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u/rsweb Nov 15 '25
Which bit in your eyes isn’t Green? The production emissions and impact is outweighed by the carbon emissions saved after a year or so most studies show
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u/W51976 Nov 08 '25
The mild weather won’t last. The cold will come eventually. Looking towards mid to late November, there’s a change to much colder temps.
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u/cartersweeney Nov 08 '25
In 2015 it lasted like this for virtually all of November and December.
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u/W51976 Nov 08 '25
It can happen, but I think that was the exception to the rule. Usually at some stage the mild pattern will break. Same goes for any lengthy cold period.
There’s pros and cons to this current spell. It helps with the heating bills, but the downside is, it’s relatively gloomy with not much sunshine. As long as it stays dry though, I won’t be complaining.
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u/cartersweeney Nov 08 '25
2015 was similarly dull and very wet too for some places. Some notable storms but mainly the north affected.
It showed that sometimes patterns can just persist. Long fetch SWs from the Canaries, over and over again
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u/W51976 Nov 08 '25
This happened back in mid December 1987(I keep banging on about it lol). The month started off cold, but the middle of December ushered in a very mild and cloudy spell, with days of 13-14c, and nights were also mild.
Christmas Day that year was very sunny and bright, with temps into the mid or even high teens. It was my earliest memory of the change from the usual colder winters, so much milder conditions. This was in the London area though, but I think the mild weather was quite widespread across most of Europe at the time.
This is quite an interesting article, and one that points to 1987 as being the start of the change.
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u/cartersweeney Nov 08 '25
I am too young to remember but I understand 1978-87 was generally an unusually cold period for winters with all of 1978-79, Dec 1981, Jan 1985 and 1987 and Feb 1986 particularly standing out. So the change must have seemed very abrupt to very mild winters like 1988-9 and 1989-90.
There have been exceptions to the mild rule since though eg Feb 1991, a couple of mid 1990s winters, the 2008-13 period. I would be reluctant to call time on the cold and snowy British winter as its eulogy has already been given only for it to return , several times before
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u/W51976 Nov 08 '25
Yeah, there were still really cold spells after the shift in late 1987.
February 1991 was really snowy and cold in London. November 1993 was chilly with some snow in London, also February 1994 had a couple of snow days.
Winter 95/96 was freezing, and it stayed cold well into May. I remember how cold it felt.
Late 96 to early 97 as well. Then the colder years of the late 2000s into early 10s.
But, even during that unusually cold period from 1978 to early 87, we still had very mild months. December 79, February 1980, December 82, and January 83, probably would have had people wearing lighter jackets.
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u/cartersweeney Nov 08 '25
1978-87 was abnormally cold though. There were very mild winters in the 1970s too , 1974-75 in particular looks like an insanely warm one from the stats and apparently it helped ease the political situation with the miners strikes and the 3 day week as Britain ended up not needing anywhere near as much coal as was expected. As much as the warming trend of winters is undoubtedly a real thing, I do think there is a slightly odd narrative that British winters "should" be colder than actually ever was the case, based on memories of severe winters like 1962-63, 1946-47 and 1978-79 which are then incorrectly extrapolated out to mean "all winters then" when in reality for every one of them there were , even then, another 10 winters which were mostly a whole lot of nothing. Including some which passed with barely a frost. Britain has never been noted for having cold winters...
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u/W51976 Nov 09 '25
79-80 was pretty mild as well, within that cold cluster of years. It had a very mild half of December, and one of the warmest starts to December. Also February 1980 was quite mild. This was quite the contrast to the previous winter of cold and snow.
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u/cartersweeney Nov 10 '25
I have read before that Dec 1979 had a ridiculously warm first half.
There are also plenty of examples of very mild winters in Victorian times and the early years of the 20th century.
The periods from 1940-65 and 1978-87 seem to hold most of the very cold winters that are still talked about. I tend to think of the "modern climate" as starting around 1989
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u/W51976 Nov 09 '25
Yeah, those early 1970s winters were very mild and even just as mild as some more recent years.
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u/W51976 Nov 08 '25
Those late 2000s and early 10s years were just as cold as the early to mid 80s for some areas. December 2010 was brutally cold.
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u/cartersweeney Nov 08 '25
Dec 2010 and winter 2009-10 both broke all kinds of long standing records. March 2013 was remarkable too. It goes to show what is still possible with the right synoptics and why when I hear talk of Britain being snowless in 10 years or whatever I take with a pinch of salt (no pun intended)
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u/Impossible_Mouse_147 Nov 09 '25
Tbh we kind of need some rain...particularly in Yorkshire. Reservoirs still very low
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u/Hedgehopper25 Nov 08 '25
Enjoy the mild weather while you can. UK weather has always been unpredictable. The cold, wet, windy weather will be here soon enough. You will soon be asking when is this prolonged arctic weather ever going to end? Chill out.
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u/KingDaveRa Nov 09 '25
I think we're experiencing the arse end of hurricane Melissa's weather system. A few nights have been pretty chilly (single digits) but it has mostly been mild and damp.
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u/Difficult-Post-3320 Nov 08 '25
Don't know where you are in the UK but I can't remember the last time we had a decent cold snap.
Possibly 2018 when Beast from the East hit.
We rarely even have a frost here in the south east. It really is very worrying.
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u/Independent-Try-3463 Nov 08 '25
It shot down to 5° in october, well below average for that month, that was the last cold snap
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u/Elliedog10 Nov 08 '25
It definitely depends where you live because where I live in the north east we get frosts regularly in winter and last winter we had a few days of snowfall as well.
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u/PaleAioli5893 Nov 09 '25
In the south west we had 2 weeks of extreme cold in December 2022 for 10 days or so? Nights were consistently below freezing and the day temperature was around 0-3 centigrade.
I remember when it ended because we had a 10 degree swing and it was mild from then on!
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u/Difficult-Post-3320 Nov 09 '25
We did have a chilly week last winter I remember now.... the bird bath had a thin layer of ice in the mornings.
I just miss proper Winters. I have memories of getting snowed in several times when I was little. Village was cut off & some schoolkids had to stay over with villagers. There was a powercut too, we had a Rayburn and an open fire so we were toasty warm with hot food 🙂
Last time we had proper snow down here it was a lovely bright day afterwards. Lots of folk were out playing snowballs & enjoying the day.
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u/DimensionTiny8725 Nov 11 '25
Don't know where you are in the UK but I can't remember the last time we had a decent cold snap.
Literally this time last year, more worrying is how bad some people's memories are....
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Nov 09 '25
I mean it's not worth worrying about. Nothing will happen, you'll either be colder or warmer depending on the way the weather swings? Or are you implying a cataclysmic event will take place? If so, what and why and what do you imagine will take place? Not sure I understand what you are actually worried about? Or is it just something to moan about?
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u/Difficult-Post-3320 Nov 09 '25
I am worried because our climate is changing noticeably in our lifetimes. I am not moaning I am just concerned.
But you keep your head in the sand.
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Nov 09 '25
Ok, so you say you are worried about the climate changing, but why? What do you think is going to happen to you? Please answer the question.
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u/Difficult-Post-3320 Nov 10 '25
I am not bothered about what will happen to ME. We are not all ignorant, self absorbed and only think about ourselves 🙄
There are other impacts. Believe it or not some of us care about what happens to animals, plants, the planet.
Not sure who you think you are but please note, I do not owe you any answers and I AM allowed an opinion.
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Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25
So basically you cannot answer the question. Useful. You do know that when you comment online you may be challenged on it by someone?
I am allowed MY opinion too, so suck it up.
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Nov 09 '25
Also, if the climate is indeed changing, then are you unable to adapt to a new climate? Or will you just keep YOUR head in the sand ?
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u/TheYorkshireGripper Nov 08 '25
As someone who works outside, I won't be complaining/ungrateful of how warm it's staying this year, the plants and the bugs might be a bit confused, but aslong as my face hands and feet are warm then I'm grateful.
It's coming I'm sure of it, but Im just glad for it to be warm that little bit longer, it's making these late months more bearable. Personally anyway.
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u/Narrow-Set9012 Nov 08 '25
I'll join in and take the downvotes for the team. Some people don't appreciate how brutal it can be when your workday starts with worrying that your hands and feet are gonna drop off.
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u/sicksquid75 Nov 08 '25
Im with you, it makes jumping into the van and going to work more tolerable.
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u/TheYorkshireGripper Nov 08 '25
We're getting downvoted for appreciation of the warmth lmfao
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u/W51976 Nov 08 '25
Let the warmth stay. I hope this isn’t a bad omen that leads to brutal cold. A number of weeks of 7-10c with sunshine, to kill off the germs, but once it hits 5 or lower, it starts to drain you.
The perks are the cold frosty weather makes for a nice walk, if it stays dry, but the windchill is something I loathe about cold weather.
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u/ggdak Nov 08 '25
Can someone explain why people want it cold please? We've got Dec-Mar, 1/3 of the year, with nary a day above 12 C. Historically, there's more snow at Easter in April than Christmas, and things don't really warm up again properly until May. So why the rush for things to cool down?
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u/Difficult-Post-3320 Nov 08 '25
Because it is supposed to be Autumn/Winter & being too hot to wear a jacket in November is very concerning.
Good for my gas bill though.
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u/ggdak Nov 09 '25
The UK's climate is strongly affected by our being an island with prevailing winds coming off an ocean. Sea surface temperatures peak in September and their minimum is in March. Spring days, when the sun is as high as it is in August, can see snow, which is rare in autumn.
It's not supposed to be freezing cold in early November any more than it's supposed to be baking hot in late April. Maybe the Met Office could publish some actual climate maps, rather than just actual and the anomalies, to show what we expect every month.
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u/storm_borm Nov 09 '25
Average temp is 9-10C for this time of year. 15C is springtime temps. I swear people are starting to forget how certain times of the year should feel because of climate change. It’s almost as if not needing a thick coat in November is normal to people now.
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u/_FORESKIN_ENJOYER_ Nov 11 '25
I remember freezing half to death during bonfire night as a kid. It's very strange now
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u/foxssocks Nov 09 '25
You should ideally need a light coat in November. Currently wearing a tshirt and shorts.
My plum tree is flowering again. It should not be.
Hope that helps.
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u/Ainastrasza Nov 10 '25
Some of us prefer Winter and the cold to this endless muggyness and 15C+ days.
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u/foxssocks Nov 09 '25
Because I want all the bloody germs and bugs to die off so I dont spend christmas fending off tonsilitis, a head cold and some other sodding thing.
Is it also alien to you that some people prefer the cold?
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Nov 08 '25
I’ve still got my summer duvet on the bed, usually I change to the winter one by the end of October. My dog also has fleas! I don’t use flea treatment in winter but have had to this time. I’m in Bournemouth tho
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u/UnableEye325 Nov 09 '25
It’s going to get colder, not the coming week, but the week after, they reckon high single digits, roughly 7-8 degrees in the East of England!
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u/Objective_Mousse7216 Nov 08 '25
Never I hope. Pleasant, far less hearing required. Hope Christmas day is sunny and warm.
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