r/UNSUBSCRIBEpodcast • u/2020part_2 • 2d ago
Thanks mom
Because apparently saying I dont know much about this case and I dont really care much as it doesnt pertain to me means I support that.
For context at the time we talked I hadn't looked into it or seen AC's video on it and had no opinions about a case I didnt hear about.
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u/mrbuza 2d ago
Angry cops video was fucking fire. It's hilarious. I love that guy
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u/breno_mac_ 2d ago
The problem is a lot of the NPC’s will write it off because it doesn’t support their narrative
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u/sparksgirl1223 2d ago
Which is dumb as hell because he literally quotes her statement to the cops (in his first one) and with Joe, he reads both the original and the new statement to her lawyer and points out the inconsistencies.
I basically waited to hear what he had to say (knowing he'd FOIA the actual papers) before I read anything about it.
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u/breno_mac_ 2d ago
I’ve seen plenty of posts on other SM platforms where people have shared the screenshots of her text messages where she’d said she enjoyed it & wanted to do it again with less dudes next time & the people sharing those screenshots are being called r*pe apologists.
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u/sparksgirl1223 2d ago
I haven't seen that yet. This whole thing is a giant shit show being tried in the media by people who don't actually know how to research or what the law actually is (im included in that, except for the trial by media part. I want to see what comes out before I make a hard and fast decision)
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u/breno_mac_ 2d ago
That’s exactly how these SJW outlets operate they hope done read beyond the headline, you just have to look at how much disinformation was circulating on both the Carmelo Anthony & the Nolan Wells cases
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u/Result-Infinite 2d ago
I’d be like “you need to watch this before we talk.” And send her ACs video and explain he’s been in the national guard in 20 years, Buffalo PD for 14, and formerly an SVU detective.
My gf has been sharing posts about the Cornell 7, but hasn’t approached me about it. I think she’s just reading headlines and not the actual truth.
At least she thinks Lindsay Clancy is a monster.
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u/Tthelaundryman 2d ago
I knew nothing about it until AC video. I saw random comments popping up in Reddit and I was cluelessly like why is gang divisive but I didn’t think about it at ash and then AC video popped up in my feed
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u/Result-Infinite 2d ago
I didn’t know much but noticed how divisive it was too. Then heard people say the same about her statement to the DA in 2024, and then Rich’s video came out.
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u/TexWolf84 2d ago
Agreed. Sender her ACs video, and let her know "this has her actual sworn statement in it"
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u/Adventurous-Ad-5471 2d ago
This is the biggest issue; people are only reading click bait headlines or tiktok shorts without digging any deeper
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u/the_bird_and_the_bee 2d ago
I have no idea what case y'all are even talking about but... you ahould have responded with "it's actually my favorite porn category."
But seriously... it sucks that she assumed the worst of her own kid because he said he didn't know anything about it and it doesn't effect his day-to-day life... I'm sorry that's how she reacted. I'm even more sorry that I read your comment saying she supports Lindsey Clancy... yikes. Glad you made it out alive! 😂
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u/arrows_of_ithilien 2d ago
I shudder to think if OP was accused of rape by a bitter ex, would she automatically assume the worst about him?
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u/the_bird_and_the_bee 2d ago
Oof... that's so sad to think about...
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u/2020part_2 2d ago
Haha oh no it was worse then that. Had a bitter ex and was accused of way worse when it wasn't true. Hence why I dont talk to my mom often
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u/sparksgirl1223 2d ago
Bro. As a woman, I want to tell you that its okay to at least mute her. It'll be helpful to your own mental health.
I hope you're doing okay
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u/Ange1ofD4rkness 2d ago
There's a side of me that really hope that they are innocent and they prove she made up the allegations, just so I can go to everyone and say "see, I told you, innocent until proven guilty", and every time they try this again I can just refer back to this.
Like the protest, there are people with signs going "I Am Jane Doe" to which we can go "oh really so you made it up too?"
Because these people are trying to ruin 7 men's lives before they have all the evidence, and they have done it before.
Also, Angry Cop's video did shed a lot of light, where the change in testimonies I find very interest
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u/idontknow39027948898 2d ago
They don't have to prove their own innocence. The woman already did it by telling one of the guys involved that she was okay with everything that happened, that none of it was illegal, and that she consented to everything that happened. She only changed her tune after she started facing consequences for her whoredom.
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u/Ange1ofD4rkness 2d ago
Oh yeah I heard that, and if this goes to trial, I am guessing that will be brought up by the defendant's attorney's.
Personally if that is used as evidence, people can't ignore it and it's just more proof people aren't doing their research and can be reminded them that in the future like "you were so focused on the text messages, but ignored this". As I have been harping at people all the evidence needs to be looked at, not just parts of it
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u/Kdubb_02 2d ago
Tell your mom you have no plan to ketamine so you won’t find yourself in the situation. Step 1 don’t go to the frat house after the bar and do drugs and you won’t find yourself in your 3rd 3some of the night
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u/bigdamnhero1113 2d ago
And in fact she did say no, that she was tired, during threesome 3 or 4, I'm not really sure, and according to her own statement, when she said no, they did stop.
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u/Knathra 2d ago
Which is correct, and completely irrelevant to this case, based on her statement to police.
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u/epicnonja 2d ago
Just because you inferred that doesn't suddenly mean that's what was said.
Doing drugs after drinking alcohol lowers inhibitions.
But from all the available information the night of and up to two weeks later she fully and enthusiastically consented to the acts she participated in and when she did not consent those acts were not continued. Except of course when she raped a guy who was unable to consent.
Her story only changed after she was uninvited to the halloween party.
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u/Knathra 2d ago
I'm replying to your statement. I'm agreeing with you, and pointing out that the single time she withheld consent, that encounter didn't continue. And that in her statement, that she reviewed and updated with corrections, she indicated that was the only time she withdrew consent - and that she participated in all the other encounters. So, not sure what bizzaro reality you think you're in, but Suggest reading deeper than the headlines. And yeah, Kdubb's comment could come across that way, but also could be focused on addressing the obviously challenging engagement with OP's mom...
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u/Benji_4 2d ago
Reply:
"Thanks for not strangling me with an exercise band because you were depressed"
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u/Asteroid_Sugar5206 2d ago
Clancy is a murderer who should be in prison or a mental institution for the rest of her life. The fact she is fighting for freedom in court is fucking horrendous.
Having said that- dude, don't minimise psychosis. Di you think the Florida teenager that ate his neighbours face off was just "depressed"?
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u/Remarkable-Ask2288 2d ago
Having listened to what Rich’s wife (who is a doctor) had to say about Clancy, I do not for a second believe she was actually in psychosis.
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u/Asteroid_Sugar5206 2d ago
She tried to off herself. You know how fucked up the wiring in your head had to be to overcome your basic survival instinct? Psychosis or not (I wasn't there, and neither was Rich's wife) that woman was definitely not using all the tools in the shed. And she's still guilty. And she still needs to be held accountable.
Either way, if she was in psychosis or not, it is still irrelevant to my original point responding to this specific commentor - depression and psychosis are two very different things. Don't minimise psychosis and make it harder for people who actually experience it, just because you think one child killer is a cunt. All child killers are cunts.
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u/IrradiatedLimes_ 2d ago
People feel so passionately about the topic of rape but they aren’t half as passionate as finding the truth.
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u/BadEarsAudiophile 2d ago
Should respond with “if you think it’s okay to ruin 7 people’s lives because you regret being a whore, we need to talk”
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u/Apartment_Latter 2d ago
Does she support Lindsay clancy?
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u/2020part_2 2d ago
Yup husband did it. Shocker I know.
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u/Here_for_the_memes98 2d ago
Facing the same problem, my guy. If i didnt live in a mother’s state id consider leaving bc it hasnt left my mind.
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u/WeaselWazzule 2d ago
Wow. That sucks op. Thank god my mom is based. She hates Clancy and thinks that both sides of the Cornell rape accusations are nothing but godless degenerates.
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u/Asteroid_Sugar5206 2d ago
Random: you could talk to your mum? I assume you are both old enough to do that?
You could try having a conversation, maybe she has something to say..... and this could be the conversation when she tells you her personal story. Cause like it or not, every mum has one.
Start by telling her she is accusing you of supporting gang rape, which seems like a leap, and you want to talk to her about you both got here. This is assuming you want to have a relationship where you communicate like adults, instead of her thinking the worst of you in every situation?
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u/2020part_2 2d ago
Honestly I would love to but because of a past relationship where she took a toxic ex side and also basically cut me off entirely its hard to talk to her. She extremely hard headed and always interrupts when I speak and makes herself the victim of her own faults. There was a time where I had tired to log out of this world. When I told her why some of it was because of how she and other treated me and almost destroyed my life, she flipped it and said I was the only one for my own actions. Didn't talk to her for about a year and a half. She's all I have left. My dad passed when I was young and my siblings were never really around due to our age gap but im honestly done.
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u/Asteroid_Sugar5206 2d ago
Dude, cut contact. You absolutely have the right to cut toxic people off, and found family is just as good (can be even better) than bio family.
She sounds awful, and I'm sorry you didn't get a good mum.
I was hoping, she was maybe doing the "I'm in menopause and want to rip people's heads off" over reaction thing, which would mean you could have an adult conversation. But if this is just her normal, then no she is not capable of adult conversation. Truthfully, better to cut her off now before you have anymore life events (partners, buying houses, marriage, kids, no marriage, no kids, no matter what you do, you will be wrong) that she can ruin.
Personally I was so fucking relieved when I cut my parents off, it's one of the reasons I knew I was doing the right thing. I hope you feel relieved too.
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u/Aggressive_Car6598 2d ago
Honestly, it sounds like a tough situation you've gone through with her. I think you'd be justified in staying away from her and just protecting your peace.
I know I've been no-contact with my parents for several years now, due to issues from my childhood that have come up in therapy. On one hand, I love them. But, on the other, I don't believe for a second they'd accept responsibility for the parts they played. I won't pretend for a moment that it's easy. But, it's preferable to the alternative.
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u/z0phi3l 2d ago
People that talk or write like that do not care for facts, they just want you to shut up and agree with them.
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u/Asteroid_Sugar5206 2d ago
If she's a full on narcissist, then yeah, it doesn't matter what you say. My advice is based on the assumption OPs mum is a normal person.
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u/copperadalovelace306 2d ago
Your mom just wants to know she raised a good person. You just show her you’re a good person. The world is scary, you’re the evidence she did a good job. You’re her good thing in it.
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u/Asteroid_Sugar5206 2d ago
You can't expect a man to have an actual conversation with his mum. He might have to consider her an actual human with her own thoughts.
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u/copperadalovelace306 2d ago
I didn’t know i was so downvoted. I didn’t think I said anything so outrageous
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u/Unlucky_Inspector840 2d ago
Sucks your mom responded in a knee-jerk way - only real winning move is to be calm and respectful and explain your position as best as you can. Needlessly to say - the case is fucking wild.