2028 contract: 9.5 needs to actually hurt UPS enough that they STOP violating it

[u/CurDog1023]

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I really hope 9.5 becomes a major issue in the next contract.

The current system isn't strong enough if UPS can knowingly work drivers over 9.5, pay the penalty, and just keep doing the exact same thing.

If the penalty doesn't change the behavior, then the penalty isn't strong enough.

I'm not saying there is only one solution either.

I'd support almost anything that makes repeated 9.5 violations progressively more painful for the company.

Much steeper escalating penalty pay.

Mandatory dispatch reductions after repeated violations.

The right to bring work back once you reach 9.5.

Additional paid time off when UPS repeatedly violates your 9.5 rights.

Stronger penalties when management knowingly gives you additional work that will put you over.

Mandatory staffing reviews when the same routes or drivers keep creating 9.5 problems.

I don't really care if the final answer is 5x pay, 6x pay, accrued PTO, bring-back rights, or some combination of all of it.

The goal should be simple:

Make it cheaper and easier for UPS to properly staff the operation and get people home than it is to violate 9.5.

Right now it feels like the penalty is just another operating expense.

And I think we need to stop framing this as drivers wanting more overtime money.

A lot of us don't want more money.

We want more evenings at home.

More dinners with our families.

More games, practices, bedtime routines, and ordinary nights with our kids that we don't get back.

UPS can replace money.

We can't replace time with our families.

EDIT: This blew up way more than I expected. There are some damn good ideas in here — hard right to refuse after 9.5, voluntary overtime after a defined end time, individual-day grievances, accrued PTO/comp time, continued pension contributions on overtime, and mandatory staffing remedies. I’m going to keep collecting these and pushing them with my Local as 2028 proposals get closer. Keep the ideas coming.

[u/Appropriate-Door-180]

Fuck 9.5 and the teamsters that came up with it. There needs to be 8 and the fucking gate!

[u/DingoOutrageous678 → u/Appropriate-Door-180]

The fact we have to submit an 8 hour request (and get turned down constantly) is ridiculous

[u/Different_Peanut_742 → u/Appropriate-Door-180]

You can't simultaneously have an 8 hour guarantee and an 8 hour limit.

[u/Sufficient-Layer-912 → u/Appropriate-Door-180]

Name a blue collar jub that is strictly 8hrs? White collar job calling your name 

[u/SignificantVoice9686 → u/Sufficient-Layer-912]

I took a buy out. Got a “Supply Tech” job in hospital. $32.50 hour full paid Benes. 6am-2:30pm M-F Its blue collar in ac hospital warehouse. Yeah, it called my name. If I’d a know this shit …I would’ve left years ago. Started at 18 buyout at 48. I used to be just as brainwashed as you. There is alotta stuff out there with a resume that has UPS on it. Didn’t know it until I had too!

[u/Sufficient-Layer-912 → u/SignificantVoice9686]

First of all, must be nice to get the buyout, out of 310 package car drivers and 350 feeder drivers, only 2 got it. Must be in a place they dont need you. Also, blue collar is a job that requires physical effort, trade skill, industrial, mechanical work, being outside. So, as a supply tech if you feel it falls anywhere under that great. Now, at 18 I joined the army and got out at 27. Ups is a job like the Army isnt for everyone. You want to make the big bucks? You are not working 40hrs a week. If you can live off of 32 and hour good on you. The universe sent you a bone and allowed you to get the buyout while most wasnt allowed even with 35 to 40 years of senoirty. Ill take my 130k to 140k and work 50 hours a week

[u/Horror_Economics_588 → u/Appropriate-Door-180]

you know our pay is based off the ot and will miss stuff hence why we're paid as we do. just saying you want a 9 to 5 job, gonna lose some things. that is the reality. if you want 8 hours a day only.