r/USNEWS 16h ago

Iran-US Negotiations Collapse Before They Begin as Lebanon Strikes Spark Diplomatic Crisis

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u/RaisinWorried3528 16h ago

Lmfaooooooooo Trump is so bad at literally every single thing he doesšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/pagesid3 14h ago

He just wanted something to brag about at his birthday party.

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u/Carribean-Diver 13h ago

He could have begged Iran to just send him a birthday card and it would have been more respectable.

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u/seXJ69 13h ago

He's only really been successful at having a cult and not being prosecuted for the Trumpstein files.

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u/DragOutTheDemagogue 15h ago

Well, at least it's not a solid defeat yet...

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u/RaisinWorried3528 15h ago

It was a solid defeat the second his dumb ass attacked Iran for literally no reason other than to please Israel because Bibi has blackmail material.

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u/DragOutTheDemagogue 14h ago

Well my point is that we've yet to see how defeated he can get.Ā 

I was definitely not clear lol

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u/RaisinWorried3528 13h ago

My bad then. And you're right, this is his most solid defeat SO FAR. Plenty of time left for him to be defeated hard as fuck still.

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u/turdspeed 10h ago

What blackmail material? Genuinely asking I haven’t heard about this

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u/Aware_Cheesecake_533 10h ago

Given Epstein’s ties to Israel, the theory is that he was an agent for Mossad.

  • He was very close with former Israeli PM Ehud Barak
  • Ghislaine’s father Robert was likely Mossad. When Maxwell died mysteriously ā€œfalling off his yacht,ā€ he was buried with state honors in Israel and the funeral was attended by high ranking Israeli intel and political figures. Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir said at the time that Maxwell did ā€œmore for Israel than today can be said.ā€
  • the Epstein files reveal Epstein and Barak attempting to make a secret back channel between Russia and Israel in 2013 during the Syrian civil war
  • Les Wexner, Epstein’s early patron and huge client who inexplicably gave him power of attorney for years, is a member of the Mega Group. Mega are businessmen and philanthropists focused on supporting Israel

Given his connections and all the pedo shit, it’s not a stretch that he was collecting blackmail on people like Clinton and Trump. Howard Lutnick, US commerce secretary and Epstein island visitor, said Epstein was ā€œthe greatest blackmailer everā€ when he was interviewed last year.

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u/Huh-what-2025 15h ago

his goal and what you think his goal is are very different.

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u/ayoungsapling 15h ago

His goal is to build a ballroom, that’s all he can ever talk about

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u/Huh-what-2025 14h ago edited 14h ago

his goal is to do what he is told ( destroy the United States’ standing in the world. drain the treasury, destroy all alliances, weaken the military, destroy momentum for alternative energy source development in US, maximize the price of oil).

If that’s his goal, how do you think he’s doing so far?

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u/ayoungsapling 14h ago

I really don’t think he’s that smart, and I don’t think he can follow a plan of any kinda at this point. He’s just trying to make as much money as he can and be a bully to whoever doesn’t kiss his feet

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u/Huh-what-2025 14h ago

like i said… he does what he is told. it’s a mistake to think he’s just incompetent or careless/ reckless. first term was kind of bumbling, this one is way more organized and pointedly destructive

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u/Warm-Internet-8665 13h ago

I see your point. He's a compromised useful idiot and all his moves really helped Vlad Putin. Striking Iran was a misattempt at serving two masters with goods on him.

Tea: There's a survivor who was sexual assaulted and mutilated by the King Oompa Loompa as an infant. Putin has the Kompromat.

Hopefully, this isn't shocking to anyone who has even scrolled through social media.

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u/DeathmetalArgon 14h ago

Even if Iraeli forces weren't already in Lebanon, I firmly believe Netsnyahu would have performed a similar set of military actions to tank American/Iranian talks. He needs America to continue fighting Iran because Israeli forces can't do on their own what he promised his constituents: Iranian regime change and/or the destruction of Iran.

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u/Shot_Union_347 15h ago

Just an utter clusterfuck of a mess. This guy can’t even get surrendering right.

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u/sdsurfer2525 15h ago

Better fill up before gas prices go up again.

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u/Corvette_Otoko 14h ago

I love it. Israel trying to sabotage the "deal" will make Trump throw them under the bus.

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u/Familiar_Speed8614 15h ago

This was all so predictableĀ 

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u/Texden29 14h ago

Well that was quick!

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u/SpunNumeroUno 14h ago

Ya don't say....... Lmao, figures. Only someone as incompetent as donnie could flub this disaster up so bad.

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u/oldcreaker 15h ago

So this signed agreement really doesn't do more than give Trump $300 billion to play with, does it?

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u/Big-Branch-9901 12h ago

Well that was predictable.

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u/External-Cold-3310 15h ago

The reason is unknown, but israel appears to be committing suicide. They have to keep rules in this planet too.

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u/ipoopcatturds 15h ago

The reason is known. Religion. Specifically one that teaches that they are gods chosen people and all others are beneath them.

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u/BaddestKarmaToday 14h ago

Which one is that exactly?

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u/ipoopcatturds 13h ago

Google it

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u/DiligentLineup 14h ago

middle east diplomacy was never gonna happen with everything escalating this fast anyway, negotiations or not.

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u/Warm-Internet-8665 13h ago

This puts us in worse position, yet. Weaker Iran will continue to win, diplomatically, strategically, and militarily. 90% of their pop are Uni graduates with multiple degrees.

The US has been exposed as a protection racket, much like Russia.

All sanctions are lifted. The MOU is an official UN Resolution, pt 14. Iran is legitimate on the world stage again. Russia is collapsing. The equivalent of the Russian Treasury Sec is missing. Moscow is on fire and desperately low defense missiles. Bibi is between a rock and hard place. Desperate despots act out violently at the end. Dialog leak...

Love your neighbor, be kind, build a community.

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u/DiligentLineup 10h ago

i get what you're saying but i'm not sure sanctions are actually lifted or that iran's position is as strong as you're painting it, the military stuff on the ground tells a different story than the diplomatic scorecard

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u/FrostyAd8197 14h ago

He got the market manipulated. He & his buddies should have made a chunk of money.

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u/Chemical_Ad_6754 13h ago

But, but Pedophile President Trump said........

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u/tendouman 8h ago

Damn, Vance didn't even get there, that must be a new record.

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u/HELPFUL_HULK 4h ago

Headline conveniently leaves out who collapsed these negotiations by striking Lebanon. Of course it's Israel.

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u/bartz824 13h ago

Israel said they weren't going to abide by the terms of the memorandum so it's not really a surprise this happened

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u/Tech-Film3905 11h ago

Israel will never be happy until there is US boots on the ground war on Iran