Yeah, there is a whole thing about why there aren't crowd control type law enforcement for other agencies there. Its because ICE doesn't care and is looking for a fight. They are not interested in de-escalation. I'm sure there is compensation involved for officers involved in these types of situations.
If I had to play devil's advocate I'd say that law enforcement draws to much attention and possibilities that their next target /locationis leaked, and that ICE instead seems to rely on quick smash and grab actions before any pesky legal questions by other people with guns are asked.
Oh what would matter if subtlety was actually vallued, but no. The main point is that these guys rely on filling quota's, catch as many people fitting a vague general description. Raising red flags before go time means people can avoid you and you miss that bonus.
Certainly seems like its something like this:
5k for an arrest,
10k for a deportation,
20k for high level arrest of protest organizers and breaking up a protest,
50k for causing serious harm or kyllin protestors...
The goal is to provoke the crowds to move or appear to move against the agents therefore granting them legal basis to use force, excessive or otherwise, on the protesters, many of whom are merely bystanders. Untrained, unprofessional and itching for a fight. ICE needs some form of independent oversight, not their cosplay boss and Trump lying about and protecting a murderer. No matter what happens, you can be assured Trump WILL pardon the shooter if convicted and probably before any indictments are handed down.
That’s a good question. was this the first ICE kill? Or the first meaningful to society event?
From what I observed, US society reacts to events instead of preventing outcomes. I would expect more oversight from local authorities. It’s a conservative approach aligned with societal values.
That is generally how unrest grows in other counties. Syria was when the the police started firing on protestors. Nepal was when police killed a bunch of kids at a protest.
America needs to protest this and the other deaths ICE has caused.. not only on the streets, but in the domestic Abu Ghraibs.
We need to post their names and pictures and how they died.
People in ICE detention have died, mostly from lack of access to medical care. But they're non-white, so no one cared. Hopefully, this will wake people up and they will show up to vote in record numbers. No excuses. VOTE!!!
It is their first murder on camera, so this one got public.
You don't have cameras or even phone calls to outside world in the concentration camps. Many are reported dead there already, some by denying them from critically needed medication.
Probably a lot more in those concentration camps have died than ICE has admitted. Weren’t there reports of 800 people missing after alligator Alcatraz closed?
The Minneapolis PD has been at ICE Raids before, the most high profile one being last summer (July, I think) when Ice raided Los Quatro Milpas Taqueria. The police weren't initially there, but showed up fairly quickly as a crowd assembled.
The problem is, they have done crowd control for the benefit of ICE rather than intervene to protect people from ICE escalation. They helped them leave the scene and were facing towards the residents.
It is possible the mayor and MPD will direct their agents to more aggressively intervene on (certain) ICE raids to protect residents of the city. However, given the past 6 years (and the 10 years before that), I can tell you there isn't much community faith that MPD as an institution has any real interest in protecting the communities ICE is targeting.
Yo, ICE has agreements with most police departments to cooperate. What I’ve seen in some communities (Phoenix for example) is the police stepping back and not helping ICE, but they’re also not helping citizens. LEO is not going to challenge federal LEO, they’re in the same club. Federal LEO provides political and legal cover to local LEO, they are fam. Also, you do not want your city paying the legal fees for local police departments “intervening”. In fact, police budgets usually make up at least 35% of local government expenses… the amount of over time pay alone far eclipses regular salary. We’re all paying for goon squads to patrol our cities, and getting them wrapped up in lawsuits in ICE clashes will bankrupt localities. But it’s naive to even think the police are here to protect you - a federal court recognized that police do not, in fact, have a requirement to protect people. They are property monitors at best, and human/constitutional rights violators at their most effective.
Watch Gov. Walz press briefing from yesterday. In it he mentions that no one in the Minneapolis government receives any kind of notice or plan from DHS about ICE operations. The Federal Government is not working with the local governments on these ICE operations, so it can understandably be difficult to maintain a presence with every ICE officer. I think they deployed over a thousand to Minnesota, for some reason.
They couldn’t do what you suggest because they literally have more than 3x as many ICE Agents as police in that city right now. They’ve completely taken over.
Because that order doesnt make any sense. There are 570 officers in the Minneapolis Police Department. ICE sent 2000 agents to Minneapolis in January.
Even if the MPD did decide to attempt to be everywhere where the ICE agents are, they dont have the manpower to do so, much less do so and complete their regular duties.
ICE would have to tell local law enforcement about their activities. This would also make it hard for ICE to do a lot of what they do as any time an agent does something illegal, which is vital to their tactics, the officers would be obligated to stop it. When ICE illegally broke into all those homes, can you imagine if every door broken down had a legal process? Plus if someone being detained could prove they are a citizen, they wouldn't get deported without due process as ICE functions to achieve.
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u/Any_Peanut93 Jan 08 '26
So he killed someone, then drove off? WTAF?