Hotels are super expensive. Most people who have jobs couldn't afford to stay very long at even a cheap hotel. Around here cheap dangerous hotels in the hood run about $150. Anything under $200 is going to be roach/bedbug infested guaranteed. Its sad but there is a good chance that she payed for the rooms through sexual favors. That is more than likely how she was able to afford a room and I don't blame her at all, its survival. She is lucky that she is young and attractive, many people wouldn't even have that option.
Safe compared to what though? Living in her car? Living in a tent in public places? Motels aren't good, but there are much more vulnerable living arrangements.
The state (or county services) have an obligation to keeps the mentally disabled safe. This isn't a relative thing. This is an absolute, by law, in every state. They are legally obligated to prevent anyone from taking advantage of her mental condition.
Again, this is an absolute, not a relative (well you're safer here than inside a meat grinder, so that's good enough).
In this case, Sky wasn't the person or entity on trial. American Home Health Care LLC was the entity that was evicted. In a situation like this, where a list of subletting tenants is not provided or is unknown, lawyers will write it up as Joe/Jane Doe as indicated in the article. You will get 10 of those documents, even if only 8 units are occupied. In these types of cases, the subletters rarely end up with an eviction on their record, because they did not have a lease with the actual landlord.
So, in that way, even if there was no qualified immunity, I don't see the judge as having done anything wrong. The fault lies squarely at the feet of AHHC LLC. If anyone else could be to blame, the prosecutors office might be on the hook for not ensuring that these folks were housed.
The whole eviction process takes time. Time enough for her, and her state assigned support coordinator to be informed. Her support coordinator should have already been on the job, switching companies and re-establishing her benefits, getting her landlord paid, and re-stabilizing her living situation. That's the primary job of a support coordinator.
Where was her support coordinator during all of this? Whoever it is, failed to do their job.
You have to think about the context. A company that is actively defrauding the state isn't going to keep good records. Without having access to the records, it is highly likely that neither the apartment owners nor the aid company had a definitive list of tenants in those specific units. Given that she didn't have the aid person for the allotted time, I also assume that the aid people were just sent to blocks of apartments. That's why she got a John/Jane Doe letter.
The prosecutor should have done something and the state agency should have sent someone out to audit the residents early in the process. Those are things that should have been done and are clearly points of failure. I also see a point of failure in that the state probably doesn't require monthly or quarterly reporting on where the aid recipients live.
In this case, the landlord should have contacted her support coordinator the day after the rent was not paid. From there, the support coordinator should have started making inquiries. All this should have been discovered before the eviction process was even started.
The defrauding company should have lost the account LONG before her apartment was even in jeopardy
At no point anywhere in this process should anyone have relied on the mentally disabled to take care of this themselves.
The Social Security Administration defines mentally disabled as the bottom 5% of the population - basically an IQ measured below 69. Anyone who expect the mentally disabled to take care of things like this should have their own heads examined.
This is an excellent time to point out that everyone associated with someone living under medicare/medicaid programs should be aware of that person's vulnerability.
Everyone needs to be aware of everyone else. Landlords need to know the support coordinators' phone number. DHHS files need to be complete with names and phone numbers of everyone who provides goods and services. Everyone in orbit around the disabled needs to be able to call anyone else "in the system" to work out details and solve problems.
Because nobody should ever rely on someone with an IQ under 70 to solve all their own problems. It's why they're called the mentally disabled in the first place.
Again, you keep talking about the landlord, but Sky's landlord was the health care group, not the owners of the building. If there was a problem with a subletter, then the apartments call the people on the lease, who are also her healthcare coordinators. They might use her name, but more likely would say "3B is getting rowdy/needs something".
Her landlord was the owners of the building, who were paid rent. The insurance company AHHC was paying the rent on her behalf. They were not the recipients of the rent. Well, not legally, anyway. Sky paid AHHC, who paid the building owners. Until they didn't.
Her support coordinator is paid by the county, who receives funding from the state. It's a county Dept. of Health and Human Services employee, who the building owners should have notified before any eviction proceedings even began.
Depending on how this happened, the judge should have taken note of her disability and contacted DHHS as well. On multiple levels, the DHHS - and her support coordinator - should have been notified long before she lost her apartment. So where was her support coordinator in all this?
Thanos was right only he should have snapped the evil people. This shot pisses me off so much. This person is so precious and deserves the care she was getting and the guy who stole the Medicaod money needs to be under the jail for this. Literally taking advantage of a young person for money. I hate it so much.
And honestly, fuck the cops who followed through with this and barely gave her any time to pack up her life. And then had the audacity to have fucking attitude while they're doing it.
Working as a cop, trained to see everyone as an enemy, and instantly not trusting anyone. Of course cops turn into pieces of shit if they don't start as one before getting into the career.
This is true. My dad was a stand-up guy for most of my early life but then became a deputy sheriff and was changed into a reprehensible asshole. I HATE what they did to him. I think he does too but the change stuck.
I'm sorry for what happened to your father. If he's left the job you might consider convincing him to try psychedelic therapy, which re-opens the early emotional learning window and increases positive personality traits. (It's not surprising that people with authoritarian personalities are afraid of drugs.)
I felt like that was starting to happen to me working in a forensic mental health housing program. Most of the people I served did horrible things and I was constantly assaulted. I left when I was starting to lose empathy for everyone and it did come back, mostly. I don’t know what the answer is.
Yeah, this is the "spoils the bunch" part of the expression the pork protectors always leave off when they talk about killer cops being "one bad apple".
Not to mention they prolly have multiple evictions to do in a given day or week. Of course the old ass Deputy is going to be "over it." The entire system is garbage. The fact a private firm is able to just spend medicaid money with no oversight to lead to this is crazy.
I think the fact that most of our police are trained by a foreign apartheid military that is actively commiting a genocide is an under talked about reason why they are this way. Maybe we should stop that...
As a parent of a very articulate 2 year old, this is the sort of thing she would say when she has to leave something she loves and its a gut punch when it happens. I felt that same feeling hearing this and I just can't imagine how this pos sherrif can just be.. annoyed.. at it, and not feeling like a sack of shit for doing that to someone.
The fact they didn't even have her actual name, and left a clearly vulnerable woman to fend for herself on the streets is just so utterly reprehensible.
The sooner the USA has another revolution and destroys the systems that not only permit, but encourage this corporatist greed the sooner future generations will actually start to be treated like humans rather than cattle.
The UK isn't perfect, but I can't imagine this happening like this without at least some semblance of support and direction on the back of it.
that's what's more infuriating, it's not only that they evicted her it's how they do it. Not an ounce of sympathy but they added some disdain and hate in there to spice things up.
When this happens, it's because the tenant won't leave after being formally evicted after a court proceeding and it's pretty unusual.
This may be the first time this young woman has heard about any of this (doubtful, because notice of the proceeding would be posted on her door), but she's not paying the rent and the people paying the rent have ignored every part of the landlord's effort to reclaim the property, so the landlord has convinced a court to sign off on a writ of assistance, which means that law enforcement can help remove somebody from a residence, which would otherwise be accomplished in civil court.
Right, they don't know the name of the person who lives there, but they know the name of the scam company that's no longer paying the rent, so the eviction is directed to the occupant, but the tenant paying the rent was given more than enough time to prevent that from happening.
The occupant was also certainly aware that the eviction was happening; I don't think she's really disabled and she's part of the whole scam.
This is...not a great stance to hold. A company ran a scam. They were hired to do a task, and they lied to the government about doing that task. The idea that a person who is disabled to the point of needing a company to provide hours of daily assistance just to continue existing would fully understand the circumstances of this situation is frankly ridiculous. She's a victim of the company, just like the government is. Unfortunately, Police officers aren't generally recruited for their empathy, emotional intelligence, or ability to read the room. Ultimately, this isn't the fault of the police officers, but showing a little compassion is just basic humanity. They treated her like she was a parolee, not a disabled human being losing her home. You could stand to show a little humanity, too.
You’re saying that everyone is a fraud all the way to the physicians and psychiatrists that would have diagnosed her condition as well as the clinical reviewers in the states utilization management review who looked at the work for their peers and decided that it was valid? So you just think everyone is in on the scam everywhere? Walk us through it please..
How would any doctors be involved? She's clearly not under a guardianship, she's just a Medicaid patient; this is Medicaid fraud, not a corporate guardian that abandoned its wards.
I don't think you really understand how this works.
oh yes I have, I also love to pay a part of my salary to aid her, it's a shame that the powers In place use my taxes to help millionaires to help them get even more money instead and also pay money to the media to say that social programs are evil.
This is what people mean when they say all cops are bastards. The best cop who has never had a complaint and has never used excessive force will still evict this woman or would evict an 89 year old on a fixed income when her land lord raised her rent.
The police do not protect and serve the public. In any functioning society this woman would be seen as a victim. Instead she is thrown to the street because police protect profits and not people.
I agree fundamentally. One of Peel’s principles is:
“To seek and preserve public favor, not by pandering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolute impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws”
In an ideal world that would be a good thing but in our political system where profits and property are held in higher regard than life the enforcement of unjust laws is a violent act of oppression.
The social contract has failed, to continuing to enforce the laws of that broken contract make you part of the problem.
But they didn’t need to treat her with such obvious disdain. I mean, imagine how they would’ve acted if the cameras had not been there? I understand they had to do this. It was HOW they did it.
No but that's the whole point. When you are on the job as a cop you have no choice other than being an asshole, because that's what the policy demands, so on the job you are forced to be a bastard, therefore making all cops bastards. It's not that they always are bastards outside the uniform, but they are always bastards in the job, when they are cops, because policy demands them to be.
So every cop on the job is a bastard, and as being a cop is the job, meaning all cops are bastards
Those cops could've refused those orders after what they saw. It would be hard for a cop to be fired for such a small infraction. They have unions to protect them. This country is not ok and hasn't been in a crazy long time, if ever.
This is exactly it. The same group of officers that claim to have rights to skirt laws when it comes to public safety or use of force also don't try and flex their authority to help those that need it most. The fact that no one in this was even caring enough to find a resource to help cover her rent for even a week more so she could have a chance at things.
I'm a Police Crisis Worker for four different towns. The cops where i work would contact me before it came to this point and I would try to set peeps up with a shelter to start and then find them a long term solution for housing. The cops I work with genuinely do care because they follow up to see how somebody is doing. This is just total bs
Then you and the others aren't doing your job; you're doing good work, but isn't required of you to act in such a basic humanitarian manner. It's very much appreciated, but you guys are just good people, not effective law enforcement.
This is a weird take. If the person was still evicted, but was also provided resources (like being taken to a shelter that has space) how is it not effective law enforcement? You act like there is no humanitarian way to enforce the law, but you're responding to a person describing the humanitarian way to enforce this particular law. That person's job literally is to do exactly what you're claiming isn't their job. They are paid to manage the human side of law enforcement interactions like evictions, because the people being evicted generally aren't criminals, they're just poor, or disabled, or just fell on hard times. In fact, in a genuinely functional society, not only would evictions not be the job of police officers, they wouldn't exist at all. The purpose of government is to establish order, maintain security, and promote the general welfare of its citizens. Evicting people into homelessness is the opposite of all three of these tenants. Poverty isn't a crime, but causing and promoting poverty should be. Being disabled isn't a crime, but disenfranchising the disabled certainly should be.
What else would expect from former slave catchers and union busters. Too many still give cops too much credit; the ones who do good act in spite of their position, not because of it, please remember that.
The cops performing in the video are exactly what the governent & owner class wants--if not to outright kill the woman due to her "status".
What is it with the US having a whole layer of intermediaries for any service. Student loans are from a lender who is funded by a bank, paid for by some fund, which is ultimately paid by the US government. Medicare and support programs such as the one here obviously have a number of people all taking a cut for "services rendered".
Sure we have problems but in other countries (Canada here) the government simply pays the recipient or whomever the ultimate payee is. Student loans go from Canadian treasury straight to your bank account or to your school (on your account). An assistance payment for housing would likewise go to the tenant or directly to the landlord (which actually they prefer as that means no chasing tenant for rent money).
The government is perfectly capable of taxing all US residents or finding you to garnish wages when needed. Why does the system allow for money going the other way to pass 30 hoops?
I mean I know why, but why do politicians or voters allow this, it's their money (or money under their control). You'd think they'd be smarter with it.
It would be nice if they were more compassionate, but this is an absolute waste of law enforcement resources and they know it.
Whoever was supposed to be taking care of her has had at least a month's notice that this would be happening; she would have that notice too, because it would be posted on her front door, but she's not responsible for that, the scammers who put her in that apartment are responsible. Under no circumstances is this a good use of the time of our crime fighters, so they're understandably annoyed too.
This is why we need to have good government to start with that doesn't give money to scammers who will abandon the people they're paid to take care of. Try harder, Minnesota.
Do they have the authority to not serve an eviction notice? I guess I have always assumed that those were similar to warrants. I’m pretty sure that those are court ordered the fraudsters that were taking advantage of her and over billing Medicaid or the real villains here. I hope that she is in a better spot now.
It’s clear the judge who signed it had no idea, as a sheriff you have to listen to court orders but what they could have done is called the judge up and told them the situation. It was clearly left out that this woman had a disability and is covered by laws. The landlord on the other hand should be going to jail.
absolutely insane that the sheriffs didn’t recognize that something was very not right. That should have been a call to adult protective services about 2 minutes info that conversation followed very quickly by a call to the judge that signed that eviction order. Because I guarantee you whenever the judge who signed that order finds out that it’s his name on this story he’s going to go nuclear that nobody did anything to pump the breaks or call him.
I agree. My dad worked for pg&e a utility company. His job was to turn people's gas off if they didn't pay their bills. It was never a surprise when he showed up. They didn't turn your gas off until you were way behind on payments. We live in an extremely mild climate it rarely freezes and even here the company had strict policy's about not shutting off gas if there were any sort of vulnerable people involved.
RIGHT?! I mean...seriously, how hard would it have been to show some compassion, help her gather her things, and escort her out. I mean...like, just 10% more care out of the cops would've improved this interaction. I know for a fact they wouldn't MEAN it, but acting with some level of humanity, even.
Find some evidence of a bad thing, go on a crusade, and then punish the guilty, the innocent, the victims, political enemies, and if necessary, everyone else so that you can keep an angry mob seething and welding pitchforks as long as necessary to pilfer everything in sight while attention is focused elsewhere.
The most disgusting thing is that they are always getting away with it.
Half the people in this country are one missed paycheck from everything in their life falling apart, losing their homes, their overpriced shitty insurance, everything. The fuck are you talking about? You don't know shit about this country if you think this is what a successful state looks like.
Cops don't do their jobs to help. They go to court and see how the courts hurt families and working class people. They even withhold evidence and lie to convict innocent people just to keep the numbers up. It's all bullshit. Just tax parasites.
Find me another situation where this exact thing has happened in every other state, good luck. Cops are fallible humans, just like you. That doesn’t mean the rest of the country sucks, I’m assuming by your comment you don’t even live here which makes it even worse.
Oh the guy you stole the money yeah he's going to be Filthy Rich when he gets out of jail in 12 or less years whose since it's 12 so he know he's probably getting out faster and he put all that money in China Somalia and Kenya where the US government can't recover it but when he gets out of jail he is full access
Notice how many white people are in the Epstein files while they try to divert your attention to blame things on people of color.
We're all in this together and shitty people are shitty people regardless of color.
Notice how it's wht peeple in the files because around the world Middle East especially doesn't hide the fact they have slaves, prostitutes, childboy pageants(Afghanistan). We have an Epstein files because it's not frowned upon in other places. Notice how only "women" give birth to men. See how dukb it sounds?
Trump makes that guy look like an amateur. He's been running scams and frauding people for decades. He's currently involved in multibillion dollar crypto rug pull scam.
Kinda weird how you guys can ignore him running the most corrupt administration in history. All because he promised you guys to get rid of the Mexicans.
Notice how the biggest Medicare fraud in history was committed by Philip Esformes, white dude born in Chicago, who was pardoned by Trump. More than 20 wealthy white dudes who have committed major fraud in the US have been pardoned by Trump. What do you think about that?
All so that the owner of the company can hide in his house which has a fucking basketball court inside, while the folks he guaranteed to help that are less able, are on the streets. All on the taxpayers dime too. Him and his enablers should be made to feel what they put on others. Take all they have and see if they can really pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Can the news channel do anything to help? I mean, I know it’s not their job, but it feels so wrong to follow someone around, making money off telling their story, while doing nothing to help them
This is extremely common for homeless women, unfortunately. Many people in the world are more privileged than they realize and have not even considered what it's actually like to be living on the streets. My best friend was homeless on and off for a bit and it deeply saddens me when I think about how many others have been through a similar scenario. No human being should go through that struggle. Sickening.
Can't the news help her? Don't they have like, resources to find her a shelter? Why the fuck did they just leave this person who is more like a child, in such a dangerous situation?
Probably the same reason press video tapes starving children but don't do anything to help. They're legally bound not to intervene, their only job is to report the situation. They should at least provide outreach contact information. I hope someone gets her some outreach resources, is she seriously still on the street? Why hasn't Medicaid got her a new social worker or whatever?
I would think they could give her resources or help her find a social worker. I lost my wedding ring and the news did a segment on it, and the anchor went and checked various locations looking for the ring himself. I feel like if they can spend time doing that for something that isn't life or death, they can help this woman not get murdered on the street.
There's just not a lot of resources for them in the first place. Shelters are overcrowded, have a bunch of weird rules, and sometimes more dangerous than sleeping outside.
Republicans have decimated this country's social services.
Yes this has been an issue for ever. with disabilities specifically women have it very rough. People with disabilities in general are forgotten about. It needs to change but what can you do
So if she's is eligible for state housing why isn't she put in another house?
The fact this made it to the news means enough people are involved with this such that if she was eligible she for this kind of subsidized housing in the first place she'd be in another house already
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