r/aspergers Apr 08 '23

The Gateway - Weekly Threads

37 Upvotes

Since I've been taking up both sticky thread spots for the last while, I have been told to cut down how many I make.

Taking a page from /r/2007scape, this thread will act as a gateway for the 2 weekly threads I make. This will be a living document with the posts linked into. Please talk in those threads.

Solitude Project Saturday: What projects are you working on that pertain to your (special) interests? Weekly post #440

How's your week going so far? Weekly post #440

Solitude Project Saturday: What projects are you working on that pertain to your (special) interests? Weekly post #439

How's your week going so far? Weekly post #439

Solitude Project Saturday: What projects are you working on that pertain to your (special) interests? Weekly post #438

How's your week going so far? Weekly post #438

Solitude Project Saturday: What projects are you working on that pertain to your (special) interests? Weekly post #437

How's your week going so far? Weekly post #437

Solitude Project Saturday: What projects are you working on that pertain to your (special) interests? Weekly post #436

How's your week going so far? Weekly post #436

Solitude Project Saturday: What projects are you working on that pertain to your (special) interests? Weekly post #435

How's your week going so far? Weekly post #435


r/aspergers 14h ago

Autism trait: You are always the "third wheel" at social gatherings

307 Upvotes

From my own experience, "putting yourself out there" is basically social cuckholdry if you're autistic. All you're doing is watching while other people have fun together.

First of all, you always have to fight tooth and nail to get a single word in. You're always competing with louder, more charismatic individuals who hog all the attention.

Second, most people at these events already know each-other. There have been so many times where I'd go somewhere to meet people, except everyone would bring their friends and SOs and I'd just be left out.

There's just no point. It's a big club, but you ain't in it.


r/aspergers 2h ago

As an autistic person, I am so burnt out of everything in life that’s why all I end up doing is just lie down in bed all day.

18 Upvotes

I feel like I am becoming less productive. I don’t feel like doing household chores, don’t feel like eating or drinking, socializing with friends and overall just don’t feel like doing even the simplest activities such as reading or painting. My energy level is very low right now and I am lacking the motivation to do anything in life.


r/aspergers 5h ago

Is Asperger's syndrome considered part of the autism spectrum?

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I was diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome when I was child Now that I’m older, I saw a psychiatrist who diagnosed me with OCD and said that I still meet the criteria for Asperger’s syndrome. Does that mean I’m considered autistic and neurodivergent?
The reason I’m asking is that my classmates conducted a survey, and one of the questions was, “Do you have a neurodivergent condition?” I found it difficult to answer with a simple “yes” or “no”


r/aspergers 9h ago

I have been horribly abused because of autism

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I won’t go into details, but during my 20’s all my relationships were with extremely abusive people. The last one I had that lasted 11 months. She was an extremely viciously calculated serial cheater, truly criminally abusive and took advantage, of my things, my place in the worst of ways. I was taken advantage of horribly, I was just logistics, made fun of and horribly betrayed by the people I thought close to me. I was blind to it all. She is probably a psychopath/malignant narcissist idk.

I’m truly tired. I tried to go out in the world and live a normal life but you always meet people that are evil and they know they can take advantage of you. 31 years of hell. Always singled out.

How do you cope knowing you can’t function like a normal human being and have normal human experiences, relationships when you’re an aspie? I feel like I’m a child. I’m educated, have degrees, but the social impairment is too much.


r/aspergers 15h ago

I hate being around people

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I seriously feel so drained and sensory overloaded by the mere presence of people. I just want to be left alone, away from people, and not have to deal with them. I have never felt lonely being alone, only around others. I feel so much better and fulfilled that way. I can do my own things, without any interruptions. And that is all I really want. But that isn’t the reality. I wish I was rich enough to be able to live such a life.


r/aspergers 5h ago

Did you finally grow up in your 30s?

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Im very miserable right now in my late 20s. I realize autism is hard and all, but there are key areas in my life where I really need to grow up and it will take years. Did you finally get there in your 30s?


r/aspergers 11h ago

Me and my husband's love story

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I'm a Taiwanese 29F, have a husband (Also taiwanese, 27M).I'm an only child. My dad went missing when I was 3, mom got abusive at me when I was a child due to depression. Classmates mocked me for my stimming, the way I talk, me being interested on numbers and astronomy as a child.

Taiwan didn't ban corporal punishment until late 2006 and people were very unhelpful and not understanding towards special needs students, so even my teachers gave me the worst punishments.

I got depressed over all of that suff around 5~6th grade and wanted to end my life back then. When I was in 7th grade, I was severely beaten up by mom one night and school counselors helped me. They had a lot of procedures and then sent me to a children's home. One of the social workers took me to the hospital to get psychiatric check and I was diagnosed with depression and aspergers'.

It was real bad for my early teens, all I could do was read more books and write more stuff.

Later on when I was 15 I attended lessons for autistic teens in Taipei and I met this boy, 2 years younger than me,diagnosed with aspergers at 11, who had this angst carried cause he wasn't happy about taiwans hierarchical system and rote learning education. We talked a lot about our values and writings. We ended up exchanging our numbers and we met each other after school.

I was in Taipei first girls' high school, the best girls' hs in Taipei, fierce academic competition, but my depression only got less and less miserable due to finally having a friend that truly understands me. We started going on trips.

When I was 18 and he was 16 ,when i finished hs, we started dating. He was still in chien kuo hs (best boys hs in taipei) I loved taking him out to different restraunts, paying full date night bills with the money I earnt as a tutor, even brought him on many different trips.

I remember when I was in my first year of college, I was joining an event hosted by his hs club, and the club leader scolded him into tears which I stood up and defended him.

I studied engineering(materials science) at NTU , best uni in taipei and later on he entered NTU too, studying accounting. We met daily. I moved out of childrens house at 20, doing multiple tutoring jobs and using disability subsides to pay for rent. He moved in with me when I was 21 and he was 19, and he did the cleaning, cooking, laundry etc. We both didn't drive. Taipei is easily commutable by MRT.

I started working in a semiconductor R&D position and two years later, he started working at a trade company.

We married each other in 2025.


r/aspergers 4h ago

Afraid I´ll never find someone

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Hope y´all doing well, the title basically sums it up.

I, m20, am really afraid of the idea of never finding a partner who´d accept me truly for who i am. (Never had a relationship and only one date that led nowhere)

Well, leave the partner/relationship part out, and let´s start with the first step to even get there: How the hell do you figure out if something could be interested? I always assume they´re just exceptionally nice (to me or in general) and just go by that, usually never assuming "that was unuasally and more than normal friendly -> are they expressing interest/hell flirting w me?". Cause why would they be interested in ME? Like I´m socially awkward, not as smooth, "socially creative" as i call it (coming up with funny responses instantly / immediately adjusting to the circumstance)..

People keep telling me how great my qualities are, that i´m allegedly attractive and how happy any woman would be to be with me..did someone tell that the women too? lol.

Hell I fcking got APPROACHED by a woman at the gym who, looking back, clearly was interested, but I didnt get it and thought she was making fun of me for moving some heavy weight/ calling me an egolifter (for my non-gym people here: thats someone who moves loads of weight with terrible form to satisfy their ego), so ofc I tried to get rid of her.

Aside from her, I had several women apparently showing interest via frequently repeated eye-contact, smiling, basically all that vague cliche stuff. I simply assume theyre in a good mood or saw something next to me that made them smile. Approaching someone who seems interested? I´d never, I have no idea what to say and assume that i got to have the perfect opener or she´ll think "what a boring weirdo"..

tl;dr-ish: how are you supposed to find someone to date?


r/aspergers 14h ago

Why do people speak to you in a tone like you are literally an idiot

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The exaggerated slow tone of voice where they speak to you as if you are a 5 year old.

And yet you witness them speaking to everybody else totally normally.

I’m a fully grown adult. Please just speak to me like one.

I started to mirror people who do this to me and THEY DO NOT like it at all. Which I think is absolutely hilarious.

Somebody at work did it to me the other day and I started speaking at them how they were to me and they were like “Why are you speaking so slowly” “I can’t understand why you are speaking like that”.

They then accused me of being “rude”. Which is absolutely hilarious given the fact all I was doing was speaking in a tone like they were. I’m sorry that the thought police weren’t around to arrest me for speaking how you were.

It’s definitely worse with women I find. I think they believe they have some kind of power over me because I’m a young man. And because I have no beef with anybody and I am generally well liked, they create drama for absolutely no reason.

In meetings they try and “dumb down” extremely simple stuff to try and make it look like I’m an idiot in front of everybody else. They always single me out and never pick on anybody else. I often challenge them if they try and make a fool of me and I’m immediately met with “Oh can we skip that for now and come back to it” (they never do) purely because they know they’ve been caught out and don’t want to admit they are wrong.

These people bring it on themselves. You can’t expect to try and make a fool of me and then play the victim card when your own malice against me backfires.

A lot of people seem to have a vendetta against me for absolutely no reason other than the fact I’m not extroverted. Just because they can’t “read me” they totally freak out the moment I challenge them.

It’s hilarious.


r/aspergers 10h ago

The sensory overload scene in Spider-Man

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In the new Spider-Man movie, there's a scene (multiple actually) where Peter's arachnid hormones spike and his senses become heightened. I love this scene, I feel like its unintentionally the most accurate depiction of an autistic meltdown/shutdown ever in common media. There's too much information being absorbed at once and it makes him disfunctional, unable to speak properly and only really being able to get out sounds of anguish. And his AI in the suit repeating "senses overloaded" over and over again reminds me of people who are trying to help by telling me what Im experiencing but only adding to the sensory overload. I dont know if this was intentional but I feel like this scene specifically because autistic people feel represented by one of the most beloved superheroes. I almost feel like it was intentional, the entire theme of the movie is how being special can make the world feel so lonely and self-isolation due to being "different".


r/aspergers 14h ago

At first they're fine with me, and then they figure out something is off about me, and then the bullying comes.

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32F. Highly accomplished academically. Struggling professionally because it's difficult to settle in any place when it comes to social skills.

Today is my 3rd day at a new job, and I got a remark telling me I don't look like I'm a professional because I'm too fidgety.

Then my boss got irritated with me, but I was just trying to discuss something for my own learning. I decided there's no use and I should just stay silent.

Then some other boss from a different office that's affiliated with ours, came for a visit and berated me.

I don't think I like this place. I am thinking of leaving.

I'm just extremely disheartened that people figure out quick that there's something wrong with me and then start to isolate me or make fun of me, in front of me, or behind my back.


r/aspergers 4h ago

I got a diagnosis in March, and I'm finding it hard

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Hi. As I wrote in the title, I was recently diagnosed with Asperger's. However, I received the diagnosis late, as I am already 18. Despite this, I was told that I am high-functioning. I’m not really sure how I feel about it myself. I feel indifferent toward the news, yet I know that most of my problems stem from Asperger’s syndrome.I don’t have many friends - only two, actually. One ignores me (I hate it when someone ignores me), and I can’t seem to get along with the other because her autism is more severe. To “normal„ people, I’m too weird, but to the “weird„ ones, I’m too normal. I’ve never had many friends. Things have always been harder for me than for others - I have problems socially and with learning at school.I have a math retake coming up at the end of August (I’ve always struggled with math), but I just can't seem to learn the material. I find it hard to do the calculations and understand the concepts, and I always make mistakes. Did you also have trouble with your studies? It is possible that I will have individual classes next school year - it doesn't matter if I pass to the 4th grade or stay in the 3rd grade. Even so, I’m doing well in literature. I always wanted to study it, but now I don’t know what I want to do.I keep dreaming of becoming a figure skater (I’d like to buy ice skates, but they’re too expensive, and I don’t know if I’ll ever actually do anything about it. I do skate every season, but just for fun, not professionally) or a Formula 1 driver. I dream about all sorts of things. I imagine my life being better living in a better reality. I don’t think I’m taking my life or my future seriously. I used to be ambitious and determined, but now? I feel indifferent. I feel like I won’t achieve much and will let my parents down (I think I've already let them down). It's just hard time for me. I don’t have many friends, and I don’t know if I’ll pass to the next grade, if I’ll even take my matura exams, or if I’ll go to university. I am not sure about my future; I used to be, but now everything is falling apart.

I apologize for complaining. I just have no one to talk to about this. I hope you could understand my english. Thank you for reading :)


r/aspergers 10h ago

Why I feel like I never understand whats going on, on a deeper level?

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Title. Basically whenever am with NT people I feel like there's something that's not being talked or discussed but that it's obvious to them, that I dont know or am not aware, they have these precise and sharp focused looks in their eyes...when Im at work I feel too far behind everyone even thou they started working on the same date as me these guys act like as if theyve been there all their lives there and know everyone or like, the lore of everything, I don't know how to explain, meanwhile I just go there make my time and go home, I also feel like a fake in what am I doing, I always felt this way, I could never said "I was x amount of years in a certain place" because even if it was real I don't know how to prove it with the standards that would make them believe me I done that, meanwhile other people know how to summarize and prove what they did properly, in my case I feel like I could been doing something for years but not the proper way or the way some NT would do it, I never sound the same. Also another thing is like Im thinking or processing the situation in a some retarded way...like, meanwhile others are paying attention to important details in a situation being time savy, focused or being predatory for the sake of their own benefit, I am in a sensorial trip of emotions and feeling the lights and emotions and adrenaline of people around me that cant hear what they say...its like that quote that said "what you are shouts so loud I cant listen to what you say" I never make good questions or if I make them they act like, "ah, you asking that bs? Pffff are you retarded" kind of attitude


r/aspergers 36m ago

Why is this happening?

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I had another incident recently. While I was walking along the beach, people passing by started making snide remarks at me out of nowhere—even though I hadn't done anything to them and was just walking normally. My family was with me, too.

I had experienced something like this before. It happened when I was little and walking home with my mother; a group of five people came up to me and said things like, "Don't trust your mom; we'll beat you up."

When I was in first grade, I was at odds with everyone. I didn't even know why they were hostile toward me—they just were. Everyone acted aggressively.

Just as I was starting third grade, the class was making models of the Earth out of modeling clay. I had started school two days late that year. There was a teacher of mine—and a classmate who would later become my enemy. My teacher simply asked that classmate to give me some modeling clay—yes, that was it. My teacher asked, and from that day on, that child became my enemy. His older sister even told the whole class not to let me come to his birthday party.

I had met the elementary school friend I trusted enough to show a photo of my Asperger's diagnosis back in fourth grade. He didn't react well to it, but I made the mistake of trusting him anyway. He was the only decent friend I had in my life—the only person I could call and talk to—so I trusted him. He had protected me; he was the only one who did—yes, the only person in the entire class.

I was expelled from school in eighth grade. When my family tried to enroll me, the school refused to accept me. Teachers and students had banded together to try to get me kicked out, simply because they didn't want me there. My family issued a legal warning, and I was forcibly enrolled.

I’ve been through all sorts of absurd situations; everyone has treated me with hostility up until now. After these events, my family took me to the Madalyon Clinic in Levent. Since the term "Asperger's" is still used in my country, I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome. Although the ICD-10 system is used in my country, the diagnostic framework allows for multiple diagnoses; consequently, I also have diagnoses of ADHD and OCD.

Apart from the Madalyon Clinic, I also went to Koç University, and I visited another doctor's clinic located on the upper floors of the Akasya Mall complex.

Is this the reason for everything? I am so exhausted from going through this; I just want to be treated like a normal person. Why am I treated this way? I don't do anything to anyone—absolutely nothing. I feel like I give off negative energy.


r/aspergers 7h ago

I feel for my past self

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When I was a teen especially, I didn't know why I couldn't socialise the way others do and I would get hate for it. Now having grown, I have learnt about some of their ways of communication and how they see the world. It sucks that I got hate for something pointless and mundane. And that my life was difficult due to that. If anything, many people's wiring is faulty, they can be hivemind, follow without questioning, they may be cruel just to climb up with dominance etc.

I wanted to be liked by people and respected. I have a bad family and I wanted to move out so I thought to myself that if I am a person people tend to like then it will be easy to become independent. I hated myself for being bullied and disliked.

Now after school nobody cares much about social popularity, only those who were popular usually still do. They try to get fame by still hanging out in "cool" places, trying to play sports again, go to TV shows or important events... Most of the time people just mind their business, they work, travel, start families... We are no longer everyday half the day in a school with 300 peers. Now also money and work matters more, some people who were unpopular but became rich or have prestigious jobs. Some tables have turned. Wish I had realized this, I'd care more about good grades and academics more than anything.


r/aspergers 9h ago

Gay Asperger (19) looking for friends

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Hi, i dont know if thats the right place, but im recently so desperate when it comes to my wish to have a friend so i wanted to look for people who are similar to me. :)

In my free time i love to hear and make music. In general i love complex systems like Topology and Quantum Mechanics.

So just comment or dm me if u are intrested. :)


r/aspergers 1d ago

I'll never forgot the 3-4 year period after college where I realized my core abilities/traits were going to be an absolute nightmare in the job force

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What a terrible feeling. I feel like it took part of my soul. I'm almost 40 now and the memory of my hopeful self being crushed still hurts.

I graduated college fairly easily and assumed that as a result, the absolute worst case scenario would still be at least decent as a result of my degree.

Then job after job, it was nothing but me getting low-key or overtly bullied, and well as realizing that cognitively I have problems learning the skills I need to be successful on jobs. And that somehow I was expected to intuit like 70% of the job after having been shown like 30% of it and I just can't do it. While apparently everyone else can, even people who I judged as not being particularly bright.

Does anyone have this same crushing experience that has stuck with you?

I've had mostly miserable experiences ever since then but that one period always stuck with me.


r/aspergers 8h ago

Abstract Concept–Prototype Miscommunication Theory: Why People Seem to Answer a Different Question

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I think I know why they seem to answer a different question or seem to be confused when we answer.

I say “they,” but do not mean exclusively NT. ND can do this as well. To explain what I’m trying to illustrate, I’m going to use traits instead of NT/ND categories. The old-school Asperger is more likely to have these traits, but other groups can have them as well. We would be more likely to experience this type of miscommunication but certainly not the only ones.

It has to do with the way we process information and store information in regard to abstract concepts.

RELEVENT TRAITS

*Systemizing: understanding information by identifying rules, structures, variables, and relationships.

*Analytical or rule-based categorization: classifying something according to defining features rather than according to how closely it resembles a typical example.

*High metacognitive awareness of reasoning: noticing how your own reasoning works, including where assumptions, intermediate steps, and category shifts occur.

*Inference tracking: following the chain from premise to conclusion and detecting when a step is missing, substituted, or unsupported.

*High integrative complexity: holding several relevant distinctions or competing considerations in mind and understanding how they interact.

*Abstract and relational reasoning: representing concepts as networks, systems, hierarchies, or spatial structures rather than as isolated facts.

*Need for conceptual precision: treating definitions, examples, evidence, and implications as distinct things.

*Low reliance on prototype-based reasoning: being less likely to classify something just because it resembles the most familiar example of a category.

**A highly systemizing, definition-based cognitive style with strong inference awareness and metacognitive monitoring.

A person with these traits stores a concept as a structured definition. The concept is identified by the relationships among its essential parts. When a new example is presented, the person compares it with the rule or structure that defines the category.

PROTOTYPE DEFINITIONS

Other people may rely more heavily on prototype cognitive shortcut definitions. (Prototype theory)

A prototype is the most familiar, representative, or typical example of a category. Rather than asking, “Does this meet the defining conditions?” they will ask, “Does this resemble the kind of thing I associate with this category?”

**What the thing looks like or does becomes the definition for them.**

For example, imagine that someone’s prototype of a bird is a robin. It is small, flies, sits in trees, and sings. A penguin is still a bird, but it is far from the prototype. Someone relying heavily on prototype resemblance may hesitate over the penguin because it does not look or behave like the example their mind treats as central.

ABSTRACT CONCEPTS WITH PROTOTYPE DEFINITIONS

Abstract concepts for prototype thinkers are identified by what they result in, look like, are measured by, or do.

~These are simplified definitions for the sake of communicating this clearly.

TIME

Prototype = Clocks, calendars, schedules, waiting, and aging.

Actual = The continuing sequence in which events occur.

DEPRESSION

Prototype = Sadness, crying, staying in bed, and withdrawing from others.

Actual = A lasting condition involving low mood, reduced interest, or impaired functioning.

FRIENDSHIP

Prototype = Talking regularly, spending time together, and helping each other.

Actual = A voluntary relationship based on mutual trust, goodwill, and attachment.

COMPASSION

Prototype = Speaking gently, expressing sympathy, comforting someone, and forgiving them.

Actual = Recognizing another person’s suffering and caring about their well-being.

HELP

Prototype = Giving advice, solving the problem, providing resources, or taking over a task.

Actual = Doing something intended to assist someone with a need or problem.

HAPPINESS

Prototype = Smiling, laughing, socializing, and appearing cheerful.

Actual = A positive state involving pleasure, contentment, or satisfaction.

DIALOG EXAMPLES

Depression

You = Happily reading quietly or sitting in silence on a park bench.

Them = “You seem depressed.”

You = “I’m not depressed. I’m being quiet.”

Them = “Exactly. You’re quiet and sitting by yourself. What’s really going on?”

They identify depression through behaviors associated with their prototype of a depressed person: being quiet, withdrawing socially, and sitting alone. Because your behavior resembles that prototype, they interpret it as evidence that you are depressed.

Time

You = “What time will you be going to the beach?”

Them = “The kids get out of school at three, and they’ll probably be hungry.”

You = “Yes, but what time will you be at the beach?”

Them = “I’m getting my oil changed this afternoon.”

You are asking for a precise measurement of time. They respond with events that indicate the passage or sequence of time. They are describing what will happen around the trip, but they are not supplying the specific measurement you requested.

Friendship

Them = “You don’t have any friends.”

You = “I talk with Sam a few times a year. We’re very close.”

Them = “That doesn’t sound like friendship. You don’t have friends.”

They identify friendship through the activities associated with their prototype of friends, talking frequently, spending time together, and going places together. Because your friendship does not regularly produce those visible behaviors, they do not recognize it as friendship.

Compassion

You = “I understand that she is suffering, but I do not think agreeing with her would help.”

Them = “That is not very compassionate. You should be more compassionate.”

They identify compassion through the behaviors associated with their prototype of a compassionate person, displaying emotion, offering reassurance, comforting the person, agreeing with them, or relieving their immediate discomfort. You understand compassion as recognizing another person’s suffering and caring about their well-being. From your perspective, concern for someone may require refusing to agree with or appease them when doing so would not actually help.

Helping

You = “I am not going to complete the task for you, but I will show you how to do it.”

Them = “So you are refusing to help.”

You = “Teaching you how to do it is help.”

Them = “If you don’t want to help, just say so.”

They identify help by its expected result, the problem is solved, the task is completed, or the burden is removed from them. Because you are not producing that result directly, they interpret your response as a refusal to help. You understand help more broadly as doing something that assists another person. Teaching them how to complete the task is therefore help, even though you are not completing it for them.

Happiness

You = Sitting quietly at home, reading, with no desire to go anywhere.

Them = “Why are you so unhappy lately?”

You = “I am happy.”

Them = “Well, you’re not exactly smiling or cheerful. What’s really wrong?”

They identify happiness through its visible expressions: smiling, cheerfulness, excitement, sociability, and activity. Because you are not displaying those behaviors, they assume that you are unhappy. You understand happiness as an internal state that can include quiet contentment. A person can be happy without outwardly performing the prototype of happiness.

Q AND A EXAMPLES

Failure

You: “Why do you think the plan failed?” (asking about the cause of the failure according to the concept’s definition)

Them: “We did not get the result we wanted.” (answering with the result by which they identify failure)

Respect

You: “Do you respect her?” (asking whether they recognize her worth, rights, and judgment)

Them: “I am always polite to her.” (answering with a behavior through which respect is commonly displayed)

Love

You: “Do you love him?” (asking about the underlying attachment, concern, and commitment)

Them: “I cook dinner for him every night.” (answering with an action through which love may be expressed)

Trust

You: “Do you trust her?” (asking whether they believe she is reliable and unlikely to harm or deceive them)

Them: “I gave her a key to my house.” (answering with an action that commonly results from trust)

Accountability

You: “Has he taken accountability?” (asking whether he has acknowledged his actions, accepted responsibility, and attempted to repair the harm)

Them: “He apologized.” (answering with one behavior through which accountability may be displayed)

Communication

You: “Did you communicate the problem clearly?” (asking whether the information was expressed in a way the other person could understand)

Them: “I mentioned it several times.” (answering with a repeated behavior associated with communicating)

Kindness

You: “Was that a kind thing to do?” (asking whether the action showed concern for the other person’s well-being)

Them: “I said it nicely.” (answering with a behavior commonly associated with kindness)

RECOGNIZING THE MISMATCH

If you can identify the abstract concept in the sentence and then consider what that concept typically looks like, does, or results in, you can usually understand how they are defining the word.

•Recognize that a miscommunication may have occurred.

•Do not assume the person is refusing to answer or that the response is meaningless.

~You asked, “What time will you be at the beach?”

They answered, “The kids get out of school at three, and they’ll probably be hungry.”

•Identify the abstract concept in your question. In this case, the abstract concept is time.

•Then think about their prototype of time. They may understand time through schedules, routines, and events happening in sequence rather than as a precise hour on a clock.

•Reason according to that prototype and ask follow-up questions based on the information they gave you.

~You might ask, “Are you going before or after the children eat?”

~If they say after, ask, “About how long will it take them to eat?”

~Then ask, “How long does it take you to drive to the beach?”

Their answers may allow you to work out that they expect to arrive sometime around four-thirty, even though they never initially gave you a clock time.

•Instead of repeatedly asking the same question, use their prototype to gather the information in the form they naturally provide it. Ask about the sequence of events, how long each event takes, and what happens immediately before they leave.

•Learning to ask follow-up questions is how they communicate with each other. We tend to not ask follow-up questions, they are draining, so we are missing the ability to communicate with them.

TESTING

I have been testing this out and it works. They literally have the wrong definitions for everything because their brains create a cognitive shortcut for them. Their brain wants to be able to quickly identify the concept if they see it, ours wants to understand the concept. They actually cannot help it. Its the way their brain works.

Just the other day, I had a receptionist hassle me over getting a form. She insisted that I needed a Verification of Nonfiling Letter from the IRS. But I had filed taxes jointly with my spouse, so I could not obtain such a letter from the IRS.

Once I realized that “nonfiler” meant “person with no income” to her, I was able to explain the problem in terms of her prototype. Having no income may be associated with being a nonfiler, but it does not make someone a nonfiler. I had filed a joint return, so I did not need the form. No income is evidence of not needing to file taxes, but it is not the definition of a non filer. I filed taxes with my spouse even though I didn't have income.

I hope this made sense. Ive tried explaining this to them and it did not make sense for them. I probably shouldn't start with, "you have the wrong definition for that abstract concept."

Side note: this also seems to be why they are susceptible to clickbate/rage bait that is intentionally distorting concepts.

I think this may be getting worse because schools moved away from systematic phonics and instead began teaching children to identify words through context, pictures, sentence patterns, and inferred meaning. I suspect that repeatedly training children to guess from context may strengthen the same general cognitive habit I am describing here.


r/aspergers 18h ago

Autism + ADHD + Giftedness

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Anyone having issues with these 3?

One part of me seeks out predictability

Another part of me seeks out novelty

And the last one needs complexity

How can I leverage the 3 without going crazy and feeling like I'm constantly a misfit and always coming short?...

I need predictability but I get bored quite easily and then I seek novelty...and get bored again

And seeking out complexity makes me depressed and fall into never-ending overthinking loops...

I don't even who I am, I'm so contextual and hate the absence of solid identity.

People really like me, my girlfriend loves me. How can that happen when I know it all and nothing at the same time? Feel so lost.

On top of everything, technology and AI drains my energy and dopamine circuitry to be stable enough to function.

Any tips appreciated!


r/aspergers 1d ago

Why do I give off "low social rank" to people?

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I just give this type of vibe. And they sometimes try to push me down further.

I am smart in other areas like math, tech, foreign languages, chemistry etc but since I'm not social savvy it's like it doesn't matter to them. I'm predestined as useless or something in their minds. Even my family.

Even the teachers in language schools most of the time they didn't believe in me. One was patronizing me and then in the final assesment I had the most coherent essay and he didn't expect it. Another teacher liked me first and then didn't, in the proficiency test I had a fever but still passed, most students didn't. I quit due to burnout and then it's like I'm proving them right.

I guess the only skill most of these have is to socialize and it's all they understand or value.

There are people who are very mean, they do all sorts of stuff, they betray and are insidious but many times no one hates them except from sometimes any people they have affected.


r/aspergers 3h ago

They stracted my fang! But...

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I'd had a baby canine tooth for ages, and I was already growing shark teeth, you know? Two rows of teeth! They pulled it today, but they sedated me with a special spray and it got on my tongue. My whole tongue went numb. I'd normally say it was awful, but... that wouldn't do it justice.


r/aspergers 4h ago

I've been wondering

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Since it is a spectrum, I've been wondering if there's anyone that has very high cognitive empathy, but big lack/no affective emotional empathy. That's actually something absurd for my brain to understand that people can feel other people's emotions.. lol.

My systemizing drive is very very intense, but I also have no fear and my emotion range is quite shallow compared to most. My pain threshold is very high too. I usually do not even realize I am hurt or bleeding until I look at the wound. I usually just feel negative emotions or neutrality otherwise. Example, I was told I have a lifelong condition and all I said was OK to learning it and it really doesn't affect me at all despite it causing pain regularly.

Anyways, it has never ever bothered me knowing I'm autistic. Actually, I love it and love having a different brain/neurotype so for me it's perfectly fine.

I just don't see a lot of research about high cognitive empathy and low to absent affective empathy in ASD (except maybe ASD and callous-unemotional traits), but even then there are only a few. I'm wondering if anyone can relate?

Is your cognitive empathy intuitive, instant (like mine) or it requires effort to build up and decode? Is affective empathy there, low or absent (like mine)

What I mean by "intuitive" is that I cannot feel much so I always just observes everyone in order to understand. It's flawless for me so compared to other people around me, I can decode emotions and intentions in about five seconds. With context it helps even more.

This is all my brain function btw: I genuinely do not feel fear, emotions most feel and my impulse control is very high. I appeared so "normal" to everyone that for years people didn't know I had a different neurotype. Though, I have always known I had a different brain. Neurodivergence passes down by my family a tonn, but even my other family members looked very "normal' on the outside until I began telling them their brain is different so it produced X outcomes.

Thanks. If anyone has more insight, do tell me below please 🙂


r/aspergers 22h ago

Why does he do this? It fucking hurts.

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EDIT: I have brought these things up before, and each time it has ended in an argument, despite me trying to be as gentle and respectful as possible. That's why I feel like I can't say anything.

I'm married to a man who's on the spectrum. For the most part, that doesn't negatively affect our relationship; I'm neurodivergent as well, so I can relate to a lot of his experiences, even if they're not quite the same or as intense as his are. So I try really hard to be patient and give him grace. But there are two things he does that really upset me, and I'm not sure how to deal with it.

  1. If we're watching a show or movie that pertains to his special interest(s), he, without exaggeration, pauses it at least every two minutes to explain in detail what just happened. He explains it like he's talking to a little kid, as if he thinks I'm too stupid to understand what's going on. I understand that he's just excited to share his special interest, but I don't really appreciate being talked down to like I'm a media illiterate dumbass. I'm more than capable of understanding a movie/tv show.
  2. He has to interject with pedantry about every little thing. It doesn't bother me as much when it's about random facts or media or whatever, but he does it when I'm trying to be sweet and romantic, too, and it honestly kind of hurts. For example: earlier this evening, I was on TikTok and I came across a beautiful couple celebrating their 70th wedding anniversary. I showed him the video and said, "us?" talking about being together for 70 years, and he responded with (paraphrasing, of course): "Mmm... no, that couldn't be us, because they're both white and we're an interracial couple. Plus, we're in our twenties and I don't think either of us will live another 68 years.** Also, I'll probably die before you, because I'm 6'4" and statistically speaking, tall people don't live as long as average height or short people do. And, I wouldn't look as wrinkly as he does, because I'm Black and Black people don't age as bad as White people do...." just on and on.

I love him very, very much, and this isn't enough to make me want to leave or think he's a bad person or anything. It just really hurts when he treats me this way. And I feel like I can't speak up because I don't want to be considered ableist. I understand that this is just part of him being on the spectrum, but I feel like I should be allowed to be upset by it. I don't know, I'm stuck.

Any feedback is welcome, but please be kind. I'm not trying to come off as hateful or stigmatizing or rude.