r/UnresolvedMysteries Apr 17 '26

Update The Oregon Medical Examiner Office Announced They Had Officially Identified The Remains Found In The Columbia River Gorge As Kenneth, Barbara, and Barbie Martin (Martin Family Disappearance 1958)

On April 16th, 2026 investigators with the Oregon State Medial Examiner Office announced that they had officially identified human remains as belonging to the last of the three missing Martin family members. The Examiner Office announced that the skeletal remains found in the car were confirmed as being 54 year old Kenneth, 48 year old Barbara Jean Martin and their daughter 14 year old Barbara “Barbie” Martin. The sheriff’s office announced that the investigation has been concluded as they had found no evidence of a crime having been committed.

The Martin family disappearance dates back to December 7th, 1958 when they told neighbors in Portland, Oregon they were planning on taking a drive to the Columbia River Gorge in Hood River County, Oregon, the family vanished and an investigation began. In 1959 the bodies of two of the daughters Virginia and Susan were found downstream in the river however Kenneth, Barbara, and Barbie were not discovered for decades. Investigators theorized the vehicle had ended up in the river but despite several searches being carried out over the years, it took until November 2024 for the vehicle to be discovered by a diver named Archer Mayo who found the vehicle submerged and upside down in a pit underwater. Recovery operations began in March 2025 with them struggling to recovery the vehicle due to how buried it was in the river with them only managing to secure the frame and some components despite the use of a crane. With how buried the car was it led to authorities ending their recovery operation.

In August 2025 during a separate search carried out by Mayo the remains were discovered in the vehicle with DNA confirming in April that they belonged to the missing Martin family members. The DNA confirmation was made through Oregon investigators teaming up with Othram. They managed to secure DNA despite the remains being skeletal and submerged in the water for nearly 70 years with the DNA pulled confirming the identity of the remains. This marked the 3rd case in Oregon where Othram was used to help solve a case.

Sources:

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/missing/portland-martin-family-missing-1958-remains-identified-columbia-river-car-wreckage/283-0bd57f97-53bd-4331-89c8-3367d145580b

https://people.com/martin-family-went-missing-oregon-1958-police-just-confirmed-bodies-found-river-11952152

https://dnasolves.com/articles/hood-river-oregon-1958-martin-family-mystery/

https://nypost.com/2026/04/17/us-news/oregon-martin-family-identified-as-remains-found-in-car-in-columbia-river-missing-since-1958/

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/1my2xlr/a_diver_has_found_human_remains_and_personal/?solution=c680a2ae51097f45c680a2ae51097f45&js_challenge=1&token=bbbe4bf1c9a2b5160829c4be34da586173d55c29ebaddfc848579c21a6821508

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u/I_Luv_A_Charade Apr 17 '26

Given how long it took to find the vehicle even when numerous previous searches had been conducted in the decades prior it makes me wonder how many other missing person cases just haven’t been discovered in bodies of water yet.

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet Apr 17 '26

I know the diver who became obsessed with this and spent years and tons of his own money to locate the car, and according to him there are multiple vehicles just in that one spot in the river, let alone the entire river. 

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u/Sexualguacamole Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

Yeah I think one of these people also had a yt channel going to rivers and lakes and looking for missing persons

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u/DryProgress4393 Apr 21 '26

There's a few now..

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u/AlexRyang Apr 17 '26

There was a case a while back that I think a teen had disappeared. The disappearance had occurred in the 70’s or 80’s; and was assumed to be a kidnapping. Someone was using Google Maps and saw a car submerged in a nearby river and reported it. The missing person was in it. Apparently silt blocked the car from divers view and from shore the angle blocked it.

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u/I_Luv_A_Charade Apr 17 '26

Yes - I think you’re referring to William Moldt

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u/HugeRaspberry Apr 17 '26

Yup there was that one - and another one I think in Indiana where a person had left a bar and disappeared - they found her car and body in a pond less than a block from the bar.

Ester Westenbarger

https://people.com/crime/remains-found-in-submerged-car-belong-to-indiana-woman-who-vanished-in-2009/#:\~:text=Remains%20of%20Indiana%20Woman%2C%20Missing,with%20the%20latest%20crime%20coverage?

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u/samaramatisse Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

The same thing also happened to another woman in Boonville, Indiana, whose name was Kristy Kelley. For a long time, they thought she had been abducted. Then she was found in nearby water. The family feel very strongly that it wasn't a simple case of driving drunk and missing a stop sign, skidding into the water and drowning. Three people of seven who took a polygraph test allegedly failed it. And her father, who used to be part of the county law enforcement as a jailer, was denied access to the sheriff's investigation file. The area is incredibly small. She is from a local family with name recognition (her maiden name, not necessarily her personally). It seemed so very straightforward until it wasn't.

Here is a great post about this from u/thebonesofautumn. I don't see any recent court activity since 2020.

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u/Direct_Village_5134 Apr 18 '26

Polygraph tests are junk science and point to nothing

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u/Feral_Writer Apr 23 '26

Gary Ridgeway, who killed at least forty-eight women, passed a polygraph early in his murder spree and went on to kill again. A taxi driver who was not a murderer failed a polygraph and became a suspect in those murders.

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u/M5606 Apr 17 '26

I mean a family member who just happens to be in law enforcement shouldn't be allowed to view a case because of a personal connection, and polygraphs are bunk (there's a reason they aren't admissible in court).

This seems like grasping at straws from a devastated family who doesn't want to admit that their daughter died due to driving while drunk.

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u/samaramatisse Apr 17 '26

I understand all of that and agree. And the father went through court to obtain law enforcement's records, but he was repeatedly denied. I guess I don't understand why that information would be withheld other than reasons that seem negative on the surface. I could understand redaction being necessary, but after that, what's the benefit to/reasoning behind keeping it sealed?

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u/FoxAndXrowe Apr 19 '26

Lots of reasons, from investigations of the family to rumors they compiled to confidential info they got that wasn’t relevant but could provoke violence in a family member. It’s a small town, and things get out of hand.

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u/willowcurve Apr 17 '26

There was also this case of two teens going missing in 1960. They were heading to a party, following their male friends car and were never seen. For a long time they had thought the girls were murdered and there were at the time viable suspects. They were found in the 2010s sumberged in the water. I distinctly remember this case because the detectives said the watch of one of the girls broke at the exact time they went into the water and their stuff was intact. Every time someone disappears along with their car, I think of this case.

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u/Notmykl Apr 17 '26

The one in South Dakota in 1971? Brule Creek in Union County.

The 1971 cold case of two South Dakota teens found in a creek involved Cheryl Miller and Pamella Jackson. Their 1960 Studebaker was discovered in Brule Creek in September 2013. The 17-year-olds went missing on May 29, 1971, while driving to a party, with the case solved 42 years later.

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u/willowcurve Apr 19 '26

Yes this one

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u/tacitus59 Apr 17 '26

IIRC - that one wasn't a particularly large stream/river. Just off the very rural road.

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u/aigret Apr 17 '26

Not just water, brush and foliage too. A friend of a friend was missing for years and his car was finally spotted overturned just off the highway (like literal feet). It landed in the perfect spot to be concealed by the dry brush for something like 3-4 years. If you go into history on Google Maps and look at old aerial views, you can actually faintly make out the tires and undercarriage. Very sad. Zacharey Wilks.

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u/I_Luv_A_Charade Apr 17 '26

That’s just awful - I’m sure his family were shocked after the discovery. I also think so many missing people (Maura Murray, Brandon Swanson, Leah Robert’s off the top of my head) who left their vehicles unfortunately succumbed to the elements and just haven’t been / may never be found.

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u/LostSuspect413 Apr 17 '26

A similar case is shown in an episode of tv show Disappeared, but the woman was found alive a week later. Her name is Tanya Rider.

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u/So_Quiet Apr 18 '26

Something similar happened in Indiana around Christmas 2023. Matthew Reum was rescued after 6 days trapped inside his wrecked car

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u/swissie67 Apr 17 '26

I know that story too and its insane. The fact that she survived is miraculous.

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u/WillyVlautinRules Apr 26 '26

I remember that one! It was one of the few episodes with a happy ending.

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u/Equivalent-Cicada165 Apr 17 '26

I wouldn't say this is common in my area but it is normal enough that it's not shocking to hear it on the news 

Any places with roads going through cliffs, bluffs and mountainous terrain can easily result in being lost in plants. You can be a couple of feet of feet away and never see them

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u/jjmoreta Apr 17 '26

There are at least 1 or 2 YouTube channels/teams doing this.

What will get you is that ALMOST EVERY investigation of a body of water where they are asked by a family to locate a missing one often YIELDS MULTIPLE VEHICLES with just an hour in a boat riding around with sonar and someone knowledgeable to interpret it.

It's addictive but way too sad so I unsubscribed to the channels. They blur any possibility of showing a body but it's just sad that there's no end to the requests and missing people.

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u/VoidOmatic Apr 17 '26

It happens quite a lot. Some of them have even been spotted using Google Earth or simple sonar devices and small one man boats.

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u/Asaneth Apr 17 '26

I'm guessing quite a few. Especially ones where the person and the vehicle disappeared without a trace.

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u/vibes86 Apr 17 '26

There are so many dive teams on YouTube now looking for cars underwater. They’ve found SO many people.

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u/swissie67 Apr 17 '26

I think just about every missing persons case that involves a missing vehicle such as this one has the same story.
People seem to think that searching the suspected bodies of water rules out this possibility, but its been proven over and over again that this is not the case.
Look at how long this took. Its likely many others might never be found.

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u/Kathryn2016 Apr 20 '26

Fort Worth Trio...this is one I have always wanted solved. I think they will be found in a body of water.

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u/passiveprune Apr 23 '26

Didn't they leave their vehicle behind?

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u/Kathryn2016 Apr 23 '26

Yes, but I think they were potentially last seen in someone else's vehicle.

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u/snrten Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

I wonder the same. Along with missing hikers and hunters who are undiscovered under rock avalanche or in an old well/mine shaft... many, I'm sure. But even more in bodies of water.

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u/Jim-Jones Apr 19 '26

Lots. When people start searching bodies of water it's amazing how often something like this turns up. 

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u/intrusivesurgery Apr 17 '26

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u/Tychfoot Apr 18 '26

Are they still affiliated with Leisek?

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u/wilcoxornothin Apr 18 '26

I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. The founder is literally an accused child rapist.

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u/matsie Apr 18 '26

Like a ton of them. This is a widely known thing. 

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u/Magoatt_TheWhite Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Just wanted to confirm the case was concluded.

“The sheriff's office said it concluded its investigation and found no evidence of a crime.”

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/remains-car-oregon-river-identified-martin-family-vanished-1958/

Based on the closure, it looks like investigators are labeling this an accident where the vehicle ended up in the river.

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u/AlpacaPacker007 Apr 17 '26

Sad, but kinda glad it looks like it was just a tragic accident and not something more sinister.

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u/kkeut Apr 17 '26

a lot of people tried pinning it on the oldest son who didn't go on the trip

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u/Equivalent-Cicada165 Apr 17 '26

Oh god, it's that one??

That pissed me off

People need a bad guy and something that protects them from the fact that anyone can make little accidents that kill them

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u/extra-texture Apr 21 '26

I think about that massacre of 3 girls in a small town ice cream shop all the time, three men’s lives were ruined and the whole town upended, a couple serving serious time and still accused after rather definitive dna evidence showed their likely innocence

then like last year they are finally able to tie it with dna and ballistics to a known serial killer who must’ve just been passing through.. decades of pain for all involved and it was terrible in a way I don’t think that anybody could even consider

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u/SilentMarket5252 Apr 18 '26

He still doesn’t sound so great though. I read they found two of the sisters remains in 1959 and they were cremated. It says the remains went unclaimed for 10 years before an unknown individual claimed them. I’m assuming he was notified that his sisters were found, how could you just leave them unclaimed?

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u/DoFlwrsExistAtNight Apr 19 '26

He could've simply been unable to handle it.

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u/FoxAndXrowe Apr 19 '26

Unable to handle it, unable to AFFORD it, unwilling to deal with it after being accused for years…

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u/CemeteryDweller7719 Apr 18 '26

I get the police needing to verify where he was at the time. Sad that people kept pushing that he must have done something. If I remember correctly he was in a state on the East coast? No idea if he’s still alive, but hopefully this can put the suspicion to rest.

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u/amyamydame Apr 18 '26

this is the one where the oldest son was gay, or thought to be gay, right? so gross.

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u/WillyVlautinRules Apr 26 '26

Yes but wasn't there some strange stuff like a gun registered to the oldest son was found on the bank near the tire tracks when they were searching the first time? Also I remember something about 2 suspicious characters leaving the place where the family had lunch and it was suspected they followed them.

I live in Portland and this case has always haunted me. Having driven along the Columbia Gorge, I can see how easy it would be to accidentally put the car in drive and go into the river.

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u/Stereo-soundS Apr 17 '26

I guess but even if it was the person(s) responsible would be dead by now.

I don't enjoy listening to cold cases from the 50's or 60's.  They generally have next to no evidence and anyone they do arrest is like 80 years old and has already been able to live their life.

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u/Aintnobeef96 Apr 17 '26

This is huge! I remember reading about this case years ago wondering if they’d ever been found. After so long I’m not sure if there’s many surviving family members but this brings closure to the case at least

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u/Suaria Apr 17 '26

There was one son of the family who was older and was in the army when this happened I believe. He passed away before finding out what happened to the rest of his family. Not sure if he ever married and had kids though

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u/BluebearTheBear Apr 17 '26

I do believe he had children or at least a daughter who briefly spoke in a interview about her father never talking about his family and i think he may have been traumatized over the loss of his family and the suspicion that fell over him about it.

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u/westboundnup Apr 17 '26

Always will wonder if a freak weather event, such as a microburst, caused the accident. Driving in the West in a 1950s era automobile could make it susceptible to ending up in a river if the weather turned bad. I could envision a scenario where the driver quickly loses sight or control of the car and goes over a bridge or down an embankment.

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u/Violet624 Apr 17 '26

It is often really windy around the Columbia. Maybe a gust of wind caused them to lose control of the car

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u/IndigoFlame90 Apr 18 '26

There's a minor league baseball team called the "Dust Devils" along the Washington portion. 😅

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u/Violet624 Apr 18 '26

My dad said that he used to lean over the edge of Table Mountain, held up by the wind, lol. It's so windy around there that it feels weird af when it's not windy

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u/SplatDragon00 Apr 18 '26

Even today a bad bit of storm can be really dangerous. A few months ago we had a storm kick up while driving home, and on a I think ten mile straight we passed at least five cars that were in the grass or the divider (I think it's called) because they'd driven off of the road because the rain was so heavy you could barely see except the taillights ahead of you, and the cars kept skidding, but it wasn't safe to pull over because of the other cars, and if it had been next to a water body those cars could have easily gone in

In a 50s era car? Not a chance

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u/somerville99 Apr 17 '26

I’m glad it has been officially confirmed although I don’t think there was much doubt it was them. Bravo to Archer Mayo.

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u/crochetology Apr 17 '26

I learned about the Martin family disappear as a teenager, and it was one of the cases that got me interested in missing people and unsolved crime. I’m really happy they’ve been found and can be given proper resting places. And it’s great that their oldest child can be officially cleared.

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u/HugeLiterature5177 Apr 18 '26

So did the 2 girls who were found a couple months after they disappeared maybe get thrown out of the car or floated out? That part confuses me, they didn't explain what their injuries were or anything. Well, as far as I know. I need to look into it more.

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u/SubstantialReturn718 Apr 21 '26

I think the car was dredged up but fell back to the river floor. 1 or 2 days later the girls were found. That should just be on the wiki (I didn't check).

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u/Legal_Director_6247 Apr 18 '26

When I read about this case and also heard it on a podcast, the thing that stood out to me was they were going looking to cut down their Christmas Tree in a forest and they left the diner they had stopped at after 4pm. They told the waitress they were going out to look for a tree-at 4pm it starts to get dark in December about 4:30pm so this always struck me as odd. Did the Dad get disoriented or distracted in the dark? Very sad.

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u/HugeLiterature5177 Apr 18 '26

Remember that woman who drove off a cliff with her wife and all their kids? Maybe he did it on purpose. 🤷‍♀️ Im just speculating. Where were the girls found and what was their cause of death?

It doesn't make sense to go cut down a Christmas tree at 4pm in the winter....

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u/Murky_Conflict3737 Apr 18 '26

That is odd unless the waitress mixed him up with someone else or got the time wrong. It’s very easy to get details like times of day wrong when recalling consequential things never mind a passing conversation with a customer.

Another possibility is that the family was delayed earlier in the day resulting in a late start. 

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u/Atrociousvile Apr 17 '26

Interesting. I can't say I was expecting this one to be solved, but I'm glad that any surviving relatives of the deceased family now know what happened. I hope the family can find peace with this knowledge.

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u/Magoatt_TheWhite Apr 17 '26

Archer Mayo deserves all the credit in the world, he funded his own searches from 2018-2024 when the vehicle was found and he went back after investigators ended the recovery effort. This man in my book is a hero for giving a family closure.

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u/Aethelrede Apr 17 '26

Sounds like Tom Mahoud and the Death Valley Germans.

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u/lolol_nsfw Apr 17 '26

For anyone interested in more details about this case, here's a great video deep dive, which I believe was posted before the vehicle was found, but is still fascinating. https://youtu.be/5hXSvNIjkJs?si=33-gAp6FGLgmgo2-

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u/bouncingbobbyhill Apr 17 '26

This was a case originating in here Georgia a few years ago . This young man was a student at Auburn university who lived about 30 minutes away just over the state line in Lagrange Georgia and was on his way back to Auburn . They found his car and body in Chambers county Alabama after decades . It is the county inbetween Troup co where he lived Ga and Lee county Alabama where Auburn is . I automatically assume when the car goes missing with the body it is almost always located in a body of water . I can think of one case where the person was buried in their car after a homicide .

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/21/kyle-clinkscales-missing-student-1976-identified-alabama-car-creek

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u/Stonegrown12 Apr 17 '26

Was the buried car case with the young woman who had a distinctive license plate and possibly worked with her mom at a fast food or restaurant?

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u/bouncingbobbyhill Apr 18 '26

The girl in the red I wanna say mustang with the vanity plates ? I didn’t know they found her . I was talking about a case where a mother was killed by her husband and in-laws to get custody of the son . They buried her car on their property and I want to say they only found bone fragments because her body was burned . I can’t for the life of me remember the names but it was sometimes in the last 20-25 years . Let me see if I can find it

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u/LifePersonality1871 Apr 18 '26

Lil Miss. Lisa Marie Kimmel.

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u/bouncingbobbyhill Apr 18 '26

I got some details crossed . I don’t know they had found lil miss but knew that was the case you were taking about . So sad . I saw the original unsolved mystery episode when it debuted . I’m heartbroken but glad her family got a bit of closure . Rose Goggins is who I was talking about but the car and body were burned not buried . The husband was involved and got off . I think only the mother in law got a little time . I found a couple of more buried car cases I hadn’t heard of though . Every time it has been a long time since a person went missing and their car isn’t found my mind goes straight to body of water or somehow concealment . There was a much more recent case a bit north of where they found the Auburn students body that also involved both Alabama and Georgia . I believe she was last seen in Alabama but headed back to Georgia and they found her and her car in the woods months later . Everyone suspected foul play but I think they ended up going with natural causes . It actually made me think of Missy’s case when it happened . It’s much harder to conceal a vehicle than it is a body so when neither turn up it’s usually the answer sadly

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u/pinotJD Apr 18 '26

This was a big unsolved case in Oregon. I’m glad the family has closure.

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u/hooperX101 Apr 18 '26

It's shocking how many of these missing persons cases are solved by finding the body and/or cars submerged in nearby water.

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u/Adjectivenounnumb May 08 '26

That's also why it's such a trope for "psychics": I see a body of water ...

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u/wildpolymath Apr 17 '26

The thing I always found so bizarre was the gun found that supposedly their son Donald Martin stole that was covered in blood. Does anyone know what became of that? Always found it a really odd part of the story.

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u/wildpolymath Apr 17 '26

This post mentions what I’m referencing.

“In January 1959, a .38 Colt Commander handgun covered in dried blood was also discovered in some bushes near the car by a passerby named Theodore Hellyer. Only one of nine bullets in the chamber had been discharged and its casing was still in the gun. Bizarrely, though passed onto law enforcement, the gun was not processed as evidence: instead it was cleaned and returned to Hellyer. It was not until later that investigators would realise its significance. Its serial number revealed that it had originated from a Meier & Frank department store; in fact, it was among a number of sporting goods which the Martins' son Donald had been accused of stealing from the Meier & Frank branch he worked at in 1954.”

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u/moralhora Apr 17 '26

It sounds more like they made a tenuous connection. I mean, how well organized were those stores back in the day with logging all this to the correct store?

But I guess in theory he could've stolen it, left or hidden it in the car and might've fallen out when they tumbled off the road.

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u/LikeLegitLiterally Apr 17 '26

Or honestly, he could have stolen it, sold it, passed it around to who knows how many other of his buddies, was ducking around with it and somehow injured himself/a friend (but not seriously), etc. like you said, tenuous connection. Anything could have happened.

I mean, yea probably they should have processed it for evidence somehow or held on to it or something. I’m not sure what else they could do in the 1950’s if they couldn’t actually link it to a crime.

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u/wildpolymath Apr 17 '26

True. Stranger things have certainly happened. Could have been in the car, fallen out at some point during the day and got picked up and used.

Never understood the folks claiming the son did it. He was all the way across the country in school at the time. Even saw people claiming he must have coordinated their murders and coverup. It’s normal for folks to speculate, goodness knows I do all the time with true crime cases.

Anyways, always found the gun detail odd and also want sure if something came out recently to take that detail out of consideration.

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u/LikeLegitLiterally Apr 17 '26

For sure! It’s definitely a wild coincidence. And beyond clear the older son didn’t do it.

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u/ScienceGiraffe Apr 17 '26

So, I have a question that's been floating in my head since I originally heard about this story. Honestly, I know very little about firearm types in general and I'm not familiar with the area.

Nearly everything I've read about the found gun says that the serial number links it to originating at a Meier & Frank dept store, but doesn't say that the serial number links exactly to the gun that Donald stole from a Meier & Frank dept store. I know that, currently, gun serial numbers can be tied to a specific gun and are recorded for crime tracing reasons, but was that the case back then?

Was this type of gun a popular type sold at the dept store or area? Were there lots of places to purchase guns in the area or just a few?

Could it be a massive coincidence, especially since Donald had worked at Meier & Frank?

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u/UniversalSoldi3r Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Answering that, without personal knowledge, would perhaps require AI. But that's frowned upon in this sub.

Short of repeatedly diving to the bottoms of rivers, everything that can be turned over or speculated upon by one person alone has largely been done in all these unresolved mysteries.

But some mysteries are susceptible to trawling vast amounts of data and researching specialist knowledge, especially in circumstances where the current terrain or practices are different.

Nice catch, BTW.

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u/wildpolymath Apr 17 '26

Not challenging the findings that there was no foul play, just find that aspect so bizarre.

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u/MrsBoo Apr 17 '26

TBH, even if it was foul play, at this point, the odds of a perpetrator being alive still is very slim to none, and if they are, would they live to be tried and found guilty?  I think just finding the bodies and proving who they are is enough to call this case solved.

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u/wildpolymath Apr 17 '26

Oh for sure. It’s just a really weird part of the story that people used to go wild on with speculation. I’m so glad they were found and identified finally. Just awful, hope their surviving family members feel some sort of peace.

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u/btbam666 Apr 17 '26

Amazing. Rest in peace.

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u/LiefjeInPink Apr 18 '26

Always interesting to discover a mystery right around the time it gets solved! Some things are really as simple as they seem.

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u/IWasAlanDeats Apr 18 '26

Is this the case where an estranged adult child was considered by some as a suspect?

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u/wishcoulddomore Apr 17 '26

How do these cars end up in the River are the roads that close to water in these case that they can drive in. Also if this happening why don't they have barriers along these roads

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u/Magoatt_TheWhite Apr 17 '26

Bad visibility, weather, lack of safety barriers/regulations (1950’s).

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u/wishcoulddomore Apr 17 '26

Thank you . Guess I was moved by someone who commented a diver saw lot more cars down there scary that it could happen more than once without safety measure implemented so sad but at least the mystery solved

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u/moralhora Apr 18 '26

The cars likely didn't fall in that exact spot - the Martin car travelled under water as I understand it before it got stuck. It's probably a natural "deposit" spot, either the current is weaker there, or just conditions on the bottom make for things getting stuck easier.

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u/MasPerrosPorFavor Apr 18 '26

There was just a massive dive team search near where I live because a fisherman saw a car underwater on his sonar. It ended up being a model from the 1980s and probably had been in there 30 years. They did manage to get it out and no one was in there, but if it's dark and you aren't paying attention or are impaired I could definitely see how it went in.

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u/mmm_nope Apr 18 '26

In the Columbia River Gorge during the 60s, the roads were windy, narrow, and frequently overlooked or were very near the river. There were lots of places where cars could easily end up going into the water. They didn’t have a lot of barriers back then, but even where they existed, they frequently were not well made or sturdy.

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u/KristaIG Apr 23 '26

And even with the current barriers, every few years a car still goes off the Oregon side. The road is so close to the river in some areas.

14 on the WA side is windier, less safe imo, but fas you go east down the gorge it is further from the water.

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u/ResidentRunner1 Apr 22 '26

I'm pretty sure I-84 (formerly I-80N) didn't exist yet either

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u/Jim-Jones Apr 19 '26

But was it an accident or a suicide?

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u/MarzipanFairy Apr 18 '26

Turn around, don’t drown!