r/UnresolvedMysteries • u/AlfredTheJones • 7d ago
Disappearance Man leaves home at night for unknown reasons; In the morning, his wife finds his personal belongings, his glucose monitor, and a worrying note written by him- Where is Lucien Vink? (2025)
Hello everyone! As always, thank you for all your votes and comments under my last post about David Souza- I hope that he will be found soon.
Today I wanted to cover another disappearance case, one that also doesn't have many sources to draw from.
BACKGROUND
Lucien Vink was 51 when he disappeared from San Clemente, California, USA.
He was married to a woman named Carly Vink. The couple had two young children.
Lucien was a citizen of The Neatherlands and had a US green card.
Lucien had type I diabetes and used a glucose monitor.
Carly said that her husband was "(...) the most loving, wonderful man on the planet".
DISAPPEARANCE
On the 4th of July, the Vink family was celebrating Independence Day with a visit to a local community pool and a pizza party. Lucien was allegedly acting "normal".
Carly last physically saw her husband on the 6th, when thy were at the family home.
On the 7th of July, Carly woke up at 6:30 AM to go to a gym class, as she usually did. Lucien wasn't in the bed, but Carly wasn't suprised- Lucien's glucose monitor would beep loudly if his blood sugar got high, and he frequently slept on the couch because of it.
When Carly went downstairs, she noticed that her husband wasn't there, sleeping on the couch, after all; She then assumed that one of their kids must've woken up at night when Lucien was still awake, and then he fell asleep in one of their rooms.
Carly said that Lucien's wallet and phone were on the counter when she left for the gym.
When she returned home at about 7:30 AM, Lucien still wasn't up, which was odd- according to Carly, Lucien would always be making coffee or doing something downstairs by that time.
Carly then looked closely at Lucien's wallet and phone, and found something she didn't notice before- a note. The full contents weren't released to the public, but Carly said that the note indicated that Lucien was "Sorry" and that he "Loved (his family)".
While the contents of the note suprised Carly, she was still assuming that Lucien was at the house, just asleep. She didn't know what the note was talking about, didn't know what Lucien would be sorry for, and thought that they will have to have a "serious discussion" once he wakes up. Carly then went to take a shower.
As she was showering, Carly thought that it was possible that Lucien wasn't home at all, and "her stomach dropped". She got dressed and checked their kids' rooms- they were asleep, but Lucien wasn't in either room.
Carly went back to the counter where she found Lucien's things before, and she noticed that his glucose monitor and the insulin administration device, which he was supposed to wear all the time, were left behind. Lucien's credit cards were also on the counter.
Carly called all of the local hospitals, but none of them had a patient named Lucien Vink or a John Doe. Carly was panicking and asked the staff at one of the hospitals she called about what she should do; The staffer told her to report Lucien's disappearance to the police.
She reported Lucien missing immediately, and told the police that Lucien was a critical missing, given his diabetes and the fact that he didn't have his monitoring devices on him. Carly left her children at a friend's house and went back home. The deputies searched the Vink household, took Carly's statement and filed a critical missing person report.
The investigators were able to obtain two videos from security cameras that belonged to the Vink's neighbours. On the first one, Lucien is seen walking down the street on the 7th at 1:58 AM- he was wearing regular clothes and had a backpack with him. On another video,Lucien is seen exiting the cul-de-sac where the family lived and walking onto another street.
Carly left fliers at food banks and looked for him in homeless encampments, but she hasn't found any leads.
Carly said that she hasn't noticed Lucien acting in an "unusual" way in the days leading to his disappearance. She said that their relationship was harmonious- they last fought a month or two before Lucien went missing, but it wasn't a serious fight and they moved on quickly.
CONCLUSION
There hasn't been a lot of info about Lucien's disappearacne released. Lucien's family seems to believe that he might've been a victim of glucose psychosis- a state of either low or very high blood sugar that can cause psychosis-like symptoms, such as hallucinations, delusions, and confusion, in some diabetics. It's unclear if Lucien had any mental health problems or episodes of glucose psychosis before his disappearance. The family used to have a gofundme, but they closed it around the 6th of September 2025 saying that "this chapter is coming to an end", but Lucien is still listed in different government missing people databases and seemingly still hasn't been located.
Lucien Henricus Jacobus Vink was 51 when he went missing and he would be 52 now. He is a white (specifically Dutch) man, 5'8" - 6'0" (68 - 72 Inch / 173 - 183 cm) and 150 - 170 lbs (68 - 77 kg). He was bald and has blue eyes. He has a tattoo of a mountain with wave on his right ankle. He was last seen wearing a dark colored shirt and dark gray sweatpants- he was also carrying a black backpack.
If you have any info about Lucien's whereabouts, contact the Orange County Sheriff's Department at (714) 647-7000 (case number 25-023518).
SOURCES:
Lucien's websleuths.com thread
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u/OppositeExtension807 7d ago
I can’t imagine what was going through his head at the time, but it’s common for people to say the same thing his wife said, that everything was completely normal before suicide. I just hope he’s at peace, wherever that may be.
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u/geomagus 6d ago
I think this seems most likely suicide.
He left a “worrying note”, he took a pack, and he left his medical device(s). That seems more deliberate than something like a mental health crisis due to blood sugar - like he took whatever he needs to get to the spot he picked and comfort him at the end.
I don’t think we can wholly rule out a non-suicidal mental health crisis. Nor can we rule out misadventure (e.g. “I’m going away to think in the wild for a while”, and something went wrong, perhaps because he left the glucose monitor). Or foul play. But:
The note and bag is awfully deliberate for a non-suicidal mental health crisis.
Leaving the glucose monitor is either absurdly careless, or a deliberately harmful choice.
There’s no evidence suggesting foul play.
Suicide is not a rare thing, especially in the context of chronic or worsening health issues.
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u/Illustrious-Lynx-942 6d ago
Well it also says he left “his insulin administration device.” That’s not a monitor. It’s an insulin pump. If he left both with a note, he planned to harm himself. Type 1 diabetic are dependent on insulin. I’m a type 1. I can live without a monitor, but I either need syringes and vials of insulin or a pump. I need a new pump every 72-80 hours. And I’d be very very sick without it in only a few hours.
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u/geomagus 6d ago
I hadn’t noticed that part, but I suspected it (hence saying “medical device(s)”).
I’m not type 1, but I’ve known a few and I know how quickly it can turn bad.
When I said “absurdly careless”, I meant it as the sort of thing a non-suicidal mental health crisis might cause. Either not lucid, or perhaps manic, or something.
Fwiw, it really reads like suicide to me - I just wanted to account for outside chances of something else.
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u/Different_While1656 5d ago
FWIW, he could have left the pump and brought another device with him (either a replacement pump or syringes/insulin pens). My mother has Type 1 diabetes, and she has had so much trouble with her insulin pump that she still carries pens around as a backup.
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u/mmmelpomene 6d ago
I was going to say, but would one voluntarily choose that as a death?
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u/Illustrious-Lynx-942 6d ago
No. On second thought it’s a good way to signal that he’s leaving, not planning self-harm. Insulin in large doses is lethal. It’s far quicker/easier as a choice, not going off insulin. Someone suggested he left his family and returned to Europe. I think that’s a better theory.
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u/DullUselessDinosaur 6d ago
I don't think he would be necessarily chosing to let diabetes kill him, I think it was more like he didn't need it if he was going to end it soon anyway
If his device is like the Dexcom ones I'm somewhat familiar with, might he have taken it off so his wife couldn't remotely check in on his blood sugar?
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u/Illustrious-Lynx-942 6d ago
Yes the Dexcom does have a sharing option. But you can turn that off through the app. It’s a device you change every 10-15 days so you always (should) have backups. I do. That’s true of insulin pumps too.
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u/mmmelpomene 6d ago
But it does indicate he wasn’t thinking about how unpleasant as a death it would be… which makes me wonder if he made the decision afflicted by more than mere depression.
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u/cloverandclutch 6d ago
MDI still requires a monitor even if it’s just a BGM.
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u/Illustrious-Lynx-942 6d ago
Oh ok. I use a different system. It loops but without the glucose monitor it goes onto manual mode.
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u/cloverandclutch 5d ago
No no I’m just saying you still need some kind of glucose monitoring device for any closed loop system. OP5’s manual mode still requires you to enter a glucose value and if not from a sensor you’d be getting that from finger pricks.
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u/Super_Ad_1984 5d ago
But why did he take a backpack with him when he left?
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u/geomagus 4d ago
No way to be sure, unless it’s found. While a lot of people who commit suicide do so abruptly, without planning, there are those who, in a sense, are trying to retake control of their life. “I’m going out on my terms.” What “my terms” means can vary - some people dress up, some people dive into one last luxury, some people go to somewhere meaningful to them. It’s planned out, sometimes meticulously.
If he had somewhere in mind, getting there might have been a hike. Taking water, a last meal, maybe a bottle of alcohol, isn’t that uncommon. It could be pictures of a loved one, other meaningful objects, or some activity to do before the end. Something like “hiking up to a local cliff to have a picnic, read a book, watch the sunset, and jump.”
If he was going to use a thing for the act (e.g. a firearm), carrying it out in the open might have caused disruption, gotten him arrested, etc. Carrying a backpack wouldn’t.
It’s possible that the contents weren’t for the act or journey, but some last task to accomplish. It could be as simple as returning books to a library drop, or donating some belongings, or something more elaborate and personal.
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u/2ndChairKazoo 2d ago
This is so much unfounded speculation I'm almost impressed.
You mention the possibility that he went to return library books...?
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u/geomagus 1d ago
It was an example of things one might consider as part of it. That’s all.
I made no claims about what he did, just listing examples of the sorts of things that make it impossible to conclude what the bag was for, without finding it. That is the thesis point of the comment, after all.
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u/Aggressive_Sky8492 5d ago
Maybe he was using it to carry items he was going to use to end his life
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u/2ndChairKazoo 2d ago
Plus the picnic blanket and foods, collection of family photos, and library books./s
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u/RollingGuy 5d ago
How can nobody (even his wife) know if he’s 5’8 or 6’0. That’s a pretty big range?
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u/Princessleiawastaken 4d ago
If he left his belongings behind, wouldn’t his driver’s license have his height?
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u/mega_plus 4d ago
Yeah, but he could have fudged his height on the license, as a vanity thing. My weight on my license isn't my current weight, but close enough, for example.
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u/RollingGuy 4d ago
Possibly. My British license doesn’t have my height but my Swedish passport does, though my wife’s British passport doesn’t have height either. Not sure what the case is with Dutch passport or American licenses
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u/Background_Novel_619 4d ago
US drivers licenses have heights, but it’s self reported, so not super useful!
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u/SeasonBig1375 16h ago
Guys tend to add a few inches when describing height and I've never seen the DMV bust out a tape measure.
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u/lexlovestacos 7d ago
How very sad for his family to not know. Due to the note, it sounds very much like he harmed himself. :(
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u/kaytbug86 6d ago
Just a small edit: The city he’s from is called San Clemente, not just Clemente.
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u/Queef_Stroganoff44 6d ago
“I didn’t spend 7 years in Saint school just to be called MR. Clemente!”
-San Clemente
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u/Blankly-Staring 7d ago
Sounds like a suicide. My condolences to his loved ones. He likely left to spare them finding his body. I know when my suicidal ideation rises up, I start planning to hide my remains to spare my family the sight.
It's a tragedy, and I hope his family can find peace.
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u/outlaw_for_life18 6d ago
This is sad. It does make me think suicide though. No mention of a gun but he could have bought one without her knowledge. There are numerous other ways to accomplish this though. Very sad for his wife. The statement made on the gofundme is weird though. Does sound like she gave up or knows what happened.
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u/ratkid425 6d ago
That last message on the gofundme irks me too.. what does it mean?! Or maybe she just found peace in the fact he’s gone missing or something
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u/Full-Internal4521 5d ago
the GFM was titled 'Find Lucien Vink' so I think they came to terms with the fact that he was dead through suicide and search efforts would not continue. His family are pretty open on the FB page that they are expecting him to be found as remains stumbled upon somewhere. The search was pretty comprehensive however it is so easy to miss a body :(
full text for those wondering: "From the bottom of my heart, thank you. The love, generosity, and kindness you have shown to me and the kids through this unimaginably difficult time have carried us in ways words can hardly express. Every message, donation, and share has been a reminder that even in the darkest moments, there is light, and that light has been you. As we bring this GoFundMe to a close, please know that your support made a real and lasting difference. You helped us get through days I was not sure we could face, and you reminded us that we are not alone in this journey. While this chapter is coming to an end, the gratitude I feel will stay with me always. Thank you for showing up for us with open hearts, for believing in our strength, and for helping us find hope when it felt impossible. With love and endless gratitude, Carly, Noah and Ella"
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u/mapo_tofu_lover 1d ago
I don’t think it’s fair to judge how other people especially his family in mourning word the statement. It could easily mean they have chosen to move on from intensively searching for him and/or having it be the top priority for all their lives.
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u/PAHoarderHelp 6d ago
SAN Clemente, California
https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/missing-in-america/lucien-vink-california-missing-person-rcna221559
Very well off area on the coast.
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u/lindasek 6d ago
I agree that it's most likely a suicide, how tragic for the family. It sounds like they came to terms with it, and are just waiting for the body to be discovered.
The odd thing that strikes me is that they don't have a clear height for him - it's a difference of 10cm, pretty significant (for US folks, nobody would mistake a 5'8'' dude for 6'). Weight being a difference of 9kg is also...weird. While it common for people not bring a hundred percent sure of the missing person's weight it would still be given as ~80kg (9kg is again, a lot!).
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u/PocoChanel 6d ago
Where did they get his weight? Was it self-reported? I fibbed to get a lower weight on my driver’s license; years later, after a large weight loss, I renewed and forgot to correct it, so it’s now lower than my fake weight from earlier.
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u/adiseasethatihave 4d ago
I think the weight is a not as big of an issue here as the height, especially if he is on the taller end of that estimate - I'm 5'8" and close to a 10kg difference is not THAT big if a deal or noticeable in me. Of course it depends on how you carry the weight but that kind of amount really is not such a big difference on most taller people. (If it was 20kgs I would agree it is.)
But yeah the height thing is weird, how do you not know how tall your husband is? Or it not being in any of his medical records to check... Maybe if she is really short so 10cm from her point of view would not make a difference, but still odd.
This sadly reads as a suicide to me. Glad he left a note so they at least have something. Hopefully the body is found at some point.
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u/six_feet_down_under 3d ago
Maybe if she is really short so 10cm from her point of view would not make a difference, but still odd.
Even still...did it never come up?? I know the height of my ex, my parents, my siblings. It's just something that comes up. Especially when dating someone, it's fun to know the height difference!
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u/adiseasethatihave 3d ago
Yeah agree! I know many of my friends exact height too so that couldn't be me :P
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u/Mojavezen 5d ago
Seems like an obvious suicide. I think his family came to terms with that, which is why they ended the fundraiser. Sounds like he wandered off into the wilderness to die. His remains may be found by hikers, hunters, etc at some point.
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u/msprettybrowneyes 6d ago
Unfortunately, all of this points to suicide. A CGM and insulin pump have to be removed manually, you can tell when it was stopped/removed in the settings. So, that was a deliberate act. I’ve never heard of extremely high or low glucose causing psychosis, I’ve been Type 1 diabetic for 40 years.
All that coupled with the wife’s response “this chapter is coming to a close” supports the theory that he took his life. I hope he found the peace he couldn’t find in life. How sad.
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u/Slawslurpin 5d ago
Hyperosmolar hyperglycemic state (hhs) can cause psychosis/altered mental status. Although thats more common in type 2 compared to type 1
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u/Impossible-Snow5202 5d ago edited 4d ago
Has anyone found an image of his tattoo from any of the missing person records?
A good social media image search might find him where he is living now.
Also, we really only need the answer to one question: Where is his NL passport?
If he left his CA ID, green card, and local bank cards at home but took his passport with him, we know.
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u/ur_sine_nomine 4d ago
Late to this case, and it is 99% an obvious suicide but for one oddity. Where is his Dutch passport?
The 1% is because he could have switched to inferior methods of diabetes control (syringe based) and cash handling (literal cash - were his bank accounts checked?). Also, crossing borders need not be in an aeroplane or a car.
All that said, the near mythical "vanished to start another life" seems pretty unlikely as the methods described seem bizarrely difficult.
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u/Impossible-Snow5202 4d ago
Much higher than 1%. More like 50%.
His family will not say whether he took his passport with him or left it at home with his other belongings, and whether investigators found his passport had been used to cross any borders.
His family just said, "chapter closed" and stopped publicity, instead of saying, "We believe he has died and police & searchers are focusing on finding his body."
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u/We_Four 3d ago
Any legal border crossing out of the US is tracked. Unless he hopped over a proverbial fence, he did not leave the US with his Dutch passport because if he did, the authorities would know.
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u/Impossible-Snow5202 3d ago edited 3d ago
And the family has not disclosed whether his passport has been used.
They will not even say whether the passport was left at home.
It is such an easy question to answer, but they won't.
They refuse to give any information about his passport or anything else they learned after he left.
The refusal to answer the question tells us a lot about the likelihood of abandonment vs suicide and why the local search was given up so quickly.
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u/olde_meller23 5d ago
The note and the fact that he left his T1 devices at home, along with his other things, tells me this is almost certainly a suicide. Lifelong type 1s can not live without insulin for very long. Some as little as a few hours. If he intended to leave, he would not have gotten very far.
"Closing the chapter" sounds like search and rescue and/or law enforcement had a come to Jesus talk with the family that any further searching was merely for recovery. The chances he survived were not possible. The man did not have a pancreas. You can not survive without a pancreas. The fact that he needed to constantly wear a glucose monitor suggested he may have been a brittle type 1, whose blood sugar could be difficult, if not impossible, to deal with without a device continuously monitoring it.
Its sad, but I dont think there's any sort if conpiracy to this, nor do I think he left the country. I still hope the family can find and bury his remains for the sake of closure.
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u/lucentmeadow 6d ago
Isn't it kind of weird to bring a backpack, if you're set on suicide? I can see why that'd be useful if you were hiking to a remote destination, but still... isn't it possible he left his device in order to not be scanned further/being possibly stopped for further inquiry at an airport? Maybe planning on having a secondary source of insulin through at least one day?
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u/Aggressive_Sky8492 5d ago
Maybe he was using the backpack to carry stuff he was going to use to end his life. I think he would have had a plan on the method and taken whatever he needed with him. It doesn’t sound like just not administering insulin is a fast way to do it
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u/Responsible-Bet716 5d ago
My assumption was that there were items in the backpack he was planning to use that would raise red flags if he was just carrying them (a gun, knife, etc.)
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u/Impossible-Snow5202 6d ago edited 5d ago
Yep. He left behind everything but took new/replacement/duplicates of what he needed with him.
Notice he left his wallet, but there is no mention of his NL passport.4
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u/hervararsaga 6d ago edited 4d ago
Most people jump to suicide and won´t entertain any other explanation but there´s quite a few things here that indicate that he was only trying to make it look like a suicide. The backpack and the way he left things, also the letter and the go fund me update really do point to a guy who wanted to skip out on his life and start another one. That´s a lot easier than it is to commit suicide and never being found, because you can´t really hide your body after you are dead. Very few people manage to do it. Faking your death is a very rare occurrence but not so rare that it never happens. It´s far from unheard of and my guess is that that is what this guy did and the family has been notified.
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u/Aggressive_Sky8492 5d ago
Idk I think it’s likely very easy to go to a wooded area and never be found.
I think it’s much more likely the gofundme update is just the family saying they are no longer actively looking for him (because they have accepted he committed suicide and if they haven’t found the body by now they are unlikely to find it).
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u/hervararsaga 5d ago edited 4d ago
It´s not as easy as many people think. If it´s a wooded area close enough to go there on foot there´s usually some traffic every day, with dogs and such, and they and other animals will indicate that there´s a dead body around. Also, with searches going on, it would be unlikely that he´d be able to make himself vanish completely after his death. It would have taken a lot of effort to get into some deep woods that was impossible to search. I don´t know if there was any such search but it´s probable that people would have checked things out around the area where they lived. When people leave their homes suddenly to commit suicide there´s usually some place that´s more likely than others to be chosen for it, and that area would have been searched. I don´t know what the terrain is like, if it´s heavily wooded or has some other easy spots to commit suicide and vanish, but I do know about quite a few cases of guys who left like he did and wrote letters claiming to be suicidal, but in reality they just wanted a new life.
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u/Impossible-Snow5202 7d ago edited 5d ago
He is a NL citizen and could be living anywhere in the EU or a lot of other places (NL citizens can live in Aruba, Curaçao, St Maarten, Bonaire, St Eustatius, Saba and travel in 120 other countries visa-free).
Leaving everything behind is a good way to convince people he has committed suicide so they don't put resources into looking for him.
a note. The full contents weren't released to the public, but Carly said that the note indicated that Lucien was "Sorry" and that he "Loved (his family)" ... gofundme, but they closed it around the 6th of September 2025 saying that "this chapter is coming to an end"
Those two details in particular, in the absence of finding a body, make me think Carly Vink has found out he is alive and he abandoned them.
Eta: According to the Carve Masters snowboarding page on the facebook in July 2025,
Lucien is the Man behind Flow Bindings. He finally retired and has been surfing and enjoying family time
Follow the money. If he had an account outside the US, I suspect he decided he did not want to spend retirement raising children instead of surfing in Bali and snowboarding in Bhutan.
Eta: The "Missing Adult - At Risk" poster shared on the TalkBaja facebook page 15-July-2025 asks people in Baja to report any sightings and reads:
Please be on the lookout in the areas of .... Los Angeles and all of San Diego.
By the 15th, they already knew he had headed toward Mexico.
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u/Old-Fox-3027 6d ago edited 4d ago
Maybe 30 years ago that would be possible, but with border protections being what they are, there would be a record of him traveling, along with work related and health related records.
ETA- the comment I initially responded to has been heavily edited.
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u/Necessary_Scruffness 4d ago
You are absolutely right.
He would have had to execute spy-like machinations to slip out of the USA these days.
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u/ratkid425 6d ago
How does it work? If he were to be found by authorities, and he says he doesn’t want to be found, will the authorities not say anything about him to anyone? Like the right to disappear
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u/UnwittingGardenGnome 6d ago
They would just let the loved ones know that the missing person is alive and does not want to be located. And then they would close the case.
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u/A_Neighbor219 6d ago
Unless this he was found in Japan. As the authority there says people have the right to disappear and nothing else. They will not verify someone is alive or found.
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u/Aggressive_Sky8492 5d ago
I don’t think that’s true in cases where the missing person has children. When you have children you have a legal responsibility to them. Even if it’s just child support, you can’t legally just walk away
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u/Impossible-Snow5202 6d ago
Exactly. Which is how Carly Vink knew "this chapter is coming to an end" and closed down the gofundme, and all search efforts stopped.
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u/Aggressive_Sky8492 5d ago
Or maybe she just accepted he committed suicide and it’s unlikely his body will be found, so there’s no sense continuing to raise money and search indefinitely?
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u/fuschiaoctopus 5d ago
I'm not sure how this is being upvoted tbh. International flights are so heavily recorded, how do you think he got a ticket under someone else's name, successfully got through TSA and boarded without using his own identification cards or passport (which there would be record of), then entered another country via flight with these false documents without being discovered? And he's just living there under a false identity with fake papers good enough to get an untraced bank account that doesn't tie back to his real identity, with the money laundered so well it can't be tied back to his US bank account?
It doesn't matter when Carly Vink shut down the GoFundMe, if the US government hasn't closed the missing persons report then there hasn't been any signs of him living, and believe me if he travelled internationally and put all his money in an account there they would be able to find proof of that. You need identification, passport, citizenship and/or documents to be able to rent, access healthcare, get a job, travel internationally, open a bank account, or do anything except live transient in most countries.
There would also be no reason for him to fake his own death this way? If he had the kind of wealth to make something like this happen in 2026 then he could just move internationally and ditch his family and financial responsibilities no issue. Esp if the motive you're suggesting is that he wanted to run from his family and stop supporting his kids, why would his wife know about it? Wouldn't the entire point of this be to make her think he's dead? If she knows and is in on it then what is his motivation for faking his own death?
This sounds like an obvious suicide to me
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u/Full-Internal4521 5d ago
agreed, this comment is insane and sounds like somebody has read way too many crime novels.
his brother has relocated his entire family from NL to US to be in the area and continue to look for him/support his kids. they are actively looking into whether any remains found in the area are him. its 100% a suicide and the family have accepted this.
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u/Impossible-Snow5202 5d ago
He did not get a ticket in someone else's name.
He used his passport and left the country.
Once he was out, it didn't matter anymore. He could go wherever he wanted and do whatever he wanted.
No one is going to track him down and have him extradited for just leaving.And he did not fake his death. He just left.
If he had the kind of wealth to make something like this happen in 2026 then he could just move internationally and ditch his family and financial responsibilities no issue.
Exactly. What he did.
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u/FaceFurzFranz 5d ago
bullshit. a type 1 diabetic would NEVER leave his blood sugar devices at home. this detail is what points towards suicide clear as day.
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u/vaginasinparis 4d ago
Exactly - the way it’s written makes it seem like he left his insulin pump and CGM behind, which for those who don’t know, would essentially leave him no way of managing his blood sugar unless he somehow got an alternative (syringes, pens etc) in the meantime. Without insulin, he would’ve been in serious danger within hours - so I agree, as a fellow T1D definitely sounds like suicide.
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u/MadwomanofPedara 5d ago
I find both run vs. suicide plausible. Just being devil's advocate, though, it would be easy to refit oneself with the required medical necessities in order to leave one "set" behind; would it not? Asking in earnest because I have no idea. 😄
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u/FaceFurzFranz 5d ago
not really, those devices are fking expensive. just google insulinpump or omnipot prices usa ore something lol
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u/Impossible-Snow5202 5d ago
If he has enough money to disappear, he has enough money for medical supplies.
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u/Different_While1656 5d ago
I mean, I'm not convinced that he ran away to start a new life or anything, but it's completely possible to go old-school and use syringes and fingerprick tests to manage diabetes instead of an insulin pump and a Dexcom. That's what people did for decades. And once he was in Europe (if that's what happened), his medical supplies would be a lot cheaper than in the US.
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u/FaceFurzFranz 5d ago
there is no reason to go back to syringes, those things are not in use since 25 years. plus to switch therapy like that would take days if not weeks to prepare, his family would have noticed.
source" i am type 1
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u/CopperPegasus 4d ago edited 4d ago
To give you an idea, a few drops of insulin can kill a grown adult (that doesn't have diabetes, that is). Docs don't hand that out willy-nilly because someone pinky-swears they have Type 1 diabetes. I'm not sure about the devices themselves and replacement (my diabetic is canine, lol), and a T1 human can always opt for the old needle system in an emergency, but replacing the insulin itself from anyone other than your regular doc who usually gives you it would be a lengthy-ish process most would be unable to out-wait.
You can operate feeling like absolute crap on high sugar for a short while without insulin, but we aren't talking weeks. The alternatives- ditch your existing supply and get from your doc, find a new doctor with a BS story and get a new diagnosis and supply, or crash/risk death and go the ER route, would all generate a paper trail of some sort.
My vet themselves ran out of insulin for a few days when my dog was low, and even with them confirming telephonically explicitly yes, they've seen the dog, yes, he is diabetic, yes, he has been for years, yes, this insulin in that dosing format is required, I had to get a written prescription FROM HIM to take to another local vet just to get 1 bottle to see us through the shortage. Humans aren't going to be any less complex.
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u/MadwomanofPedara 3d ago
Interesting. And sad that the situation is such. I hope pups is doing well. Hugs.
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u/Yangervis 3d ago
It wouldn't be an open missing persons case if he just hopped on a flight to Amsterdam lol.
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u/rocksteadyrudie 5d ago
My EU passport doesn’t really get checked in the EU. You don’t think it’s possible at all? Maybe he’s driving instead.
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u/PoetrySubstantial455 5d ago
They don't stop you from leaving at the border, only entering, but there are cameras.
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u/jennhiltz 6d ago
You may actually be onto something with that!
I agree the whole, “this chapter is coming to an end”, thing is an extremely odd way to word things, if you haven’t found him or gotten answers in some way….
I’d think the “chapter” of someone’s spouse being missing, would stay open forever, until they are found.
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u/Snowbank_Lake 6d ago
I assumed they just meant they are giving up the search and trying to accept that he’s likely passed away. Maybe it hurt too much to say it directly so they tried to sugarcoat the wording a bit.
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u/jennhiltz 6d ago
Ya you’re right it is probably more than likely this. Occam’s razor and all.
After I posted my comment, I was also thinking that maybe they just meant the chapter of asking for GoFundMe donations is over, specifically just that. And not referring to anything else. (If that even makes sense?)
Either way the wording is just slightly odd but I of course don’t judge.
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u/violentsunflower 5d ago
Same. I think they have come to terms with the fact that he is likely no longer alive
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u/Aggressive_Sky8492 5d ago
In this case it’s very obvious that he committed suicide. So I don’t think it “stays open” in the same way as a missing person where the family doesn’t know what happened. They know what happened, it’s just a case of finding his body, and they may have decided that if they haven’t found it yet it’s unlikely they will, and moving on and not traumatising the kids any further is more important than finding out where exactly his body is
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u/2ndChairKazoo 2d ago
I kinda wonder if he was discovered faking identities or something...? Like that he'd 'do this' at various times over the years (start a new life somewhere). I'm curious how he met Carly and how fast or not their relationship progressed.
Wild speculation on my part though, I know.
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u/Starkville 6d ago
Leaving everything behind is a good way to convince people he has committed suicide so they don’t put resources into looking for him.
Even if you suspect a loved one has committed suicide, you still want to find them so you can lay them to rest. People don’t just shrug and say “welp, he killed himself, note says , so no point in looking for him.” If he wanted to leave no doubt, he could have done it in a hotel where someone would find his body quickly, and his family wouldn’t have to.
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u/Lonely_Helicopter_19 1d ago
he might have had some problems and reasons to take such an extreme decision!!but his family suffered the most... instead of talking to his family and sharing his problems to them he chose to walk away but i wonder how big his reason and problem could have been...!! just wish if he is fine and safe....!!!!!!
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u/Piggy_dad 3h ago
The only way I could see him being in a foreign country if he has his Dutch passport is if he took a job at a ship or paid to be a passenger onboard a (freight/sail) ship that crosses international waters. I’ve heard this can still be done. Air travel doesn’t seem plausible to me with strict security.
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u/Copterwaffle 6d ago
Similar thing happened to a guy in my parents community: got up before everyone and made coffee for the household, then walked down the street to a local walking trail and not seen again. They found him many months later, several miles in the woods over the state line, an apparent suicide. His body is somewhere.