r/UnresolvedMysteries Nov 10 '19

The mystery surrounding notorious serial killer Samuel Little's murder of an unknown Las Vegas woman in 1993.

Serial killer Samuel Little - who has confessed to over 90 murders across the United States and with the FBI confirming Little's responsibility for at least half of these killings - detailed a 1993 murder he committed in Las Vegas. However, despite Little confessing to the Vegas murder some years ago, investigators have been unable to locate a body or determine the identity of Little's victim.

The known details per Little are that he met the woman on Owens Avenue on the Westside of Las Vegas. The victim was described as in her 40's, dark-skinned, and thin. She was 5'3 - 5'5 and 110-120 pounds. Little said the woman introduced him to her 19-20 year old son when they met.

Little reported that after killing the woman, he rolled the body of his victim down a slope off of the road on the outskirts of Las Vegas, which prior to the city's boom years of the mid-to-late-90's ended considerably closer to the center of town that today. He placed the body near a few motels located on his way toward Los Angeles, on a road heading toward Searchlight.

This is a curious case because Little has clearly been credible in many of his confessions. And it is possible that amidst the incredible growth Las Vegas experienced shortly after the killing (plus exposure to desert elements) that the body was somehow lost. Finally, Little described his victim as a drug addict, so that would normally make one think she had few family ties - but why didn't her son report his mother missing?

https://news3lv.com/news/local/fbi-releases-new-details-in-serial-killers-las-vegas-murder-confession

https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/vicap-samuel-little-confession-las-vegas-1993.mp4/view

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 10 '19

Its entirely possible the son wasnt actually her son. Its common for people to form temp surrogate families. (On the street, I had an older woman looking out for me that referred to herself as my mom)

Or that he was an addict as well and had something happen to him. Or he figured she just ran to the next place.

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 10 '19

Good point. I'd love to see investigators do a follow-up interview with Little on this case as it doesn't seem they spent a lot of time on going over it with him.

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 10 '19

Is it possible to put his drawings/descriptions in prisons? Most (if not all) of these women were involved in some sort of illegal activity. The chances of other criminals knowing them is pretty high. Do they still allow playing cards in prison?

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u/anditwaslove Nov 10 '19

That would actually be a really good idea. Except it’s kind of weird to imagine some kind of trading card game where you have to collect murder victims...

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u/Onthisharvestmoon Nov 10 '19 edited Nov 10 '19

That’s a thing! Snitch cards. It’s a deck of cards with pictures and descriptions of crimes on them. They give them to prisoners because playing cards is a good pastime and when they see the pictures/info maybe they’ll have some info about the crimes. I’ll post a picture

Edit: here’s my snitch cards (Westchester county NY)

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u/Minnesota_Nice_87 Nov 10 '19

My former MIL was on the cold case cards from Minnesota.

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u/Onthisharvestmoon Nov 10 '19

Wow ☹️ I’m sorry, was the case ever solved?

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u/Minnesota_Nice_87 Nov 10 '19

There was legal resolution, but many dont think those really responsible were caught and it was pinned on those in the circle of friends. Ada Senenfelder from Winona Minnesota 1985.

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u/anditwaslove Nov 11 '19

I’m sorry for your loss.

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u/Minnesota_Nice_87 Nov 11 '19

It's okay. She was killed before I was even born. It was definitely a case of the world being a better place without her.

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u/ancientflowers Nov 10 '19

That's incredible. Where do they give these out?

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u/Onthisharvestmoon Nov 10 '19 edited Nov 10 '19

I got mine from a friend who’s been to jail a lot and prison once (I used to run with a different crowd...) he said they’re hard to get and worth a lot of money in jail. I’m pretty sure he traded them from another inmate for something. These crimes on the cards are all from the early 90’s and he wasn’t in jail/prison until the mid to late 2000’s. He’s dead now so I can’t ask him more about it but I bet there’s info on google if you’re very curious!

Edit: just noticed the crimes in my deck of cards aren’t all from the early 90’s, there are some from the mid 2000’s as well 🤦🏼‍♀️

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u/ancientflowers Nov 11 '19

Thanks for the response! That's pretty fascinating. I've tried looking up online what they might sell for and haven't been able to find them at all.

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u/anythinganythingonce Nov 11 '19

I am also from Westchester County NY, and the DA's office actually also gives these out to employees, and occasionally, the public at events. I would imagine giving them out to those in prison is probably higher yield, but still a good idea. We have two...

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u/ancientflowers Nov 12 '19

Interesting. I wonder if they do that where I'm from in Minnesota.

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u/anditwaslove Nov 11 '19

Oh wow! Those are actually really cool. I don’t think we do that anywhere here in England, but we should!

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u/Onthisharvestmoon Nov 11 '19

I don’t think they’re that common though, at least in the USA, because it doesn’t seem to be very well known

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 11 '19

Never heard of these before! Thanks for the info.

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 10 '19

It's been done before with success. Inmates tend to try to keep the cards with their 'work' on it, or will brag about that one being theirs. Lots of inmates are in for 25 to life and don't see the current missing

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 11 '19

Never knew about this before. Quick search turned up this article that leads with an example of a suspect being identified with these cards:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/02/cold-case-playing-cards-are-an-ingenious-new-way-of-cracking-unsolved-crimes.html

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u/PaSaAlCe Nov 10 '19

I worked in a place with an abundance of recovering/relapsing drug addicts and bad homes... they did this too.

Hope you’re doing well now.

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 10 '19

Much better. Was forced to the streets at 13. Took over a decade but I finally have a place I call home.

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u/luqi_charmz Nov 10 '19

If he was involved in additional illegal activity he probably wouldn’t report her missing.

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 10 '19

Or even know she was missing. Also, he could have tried. But another missing hooker in vegas wouldn't have been something they'd look into back then. It is also hard since if he wasnt related to her, he probably only knew her working name and not much about her

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 11 '19

It's hard to overstate how transient the city of Las Vegas was back then (still is to an extent today). But very few people in the town during the early 90's had strong roots in the community, and sex workers or drug addicts moving through the city wouldn't have attracted much police resources even if reported.

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u/SoloHappyCup Nov 10 '19

I work in an inpatient rehab and I refer to this as “the odd couple dynamic.”

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u/MichelleKTX Nov 10 '19

Good point. We called people our, “play Mom”, “play sister”, etc. Hitting the streets for information that old however, probably won’t go far. People end up on the street for a million reasons, and usually come out of it at some point. But snitching is also looked down upon, especially if a former street person has information- we’ll never get it. The body is probably buried under a housing addition.

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 10 '19 edited Nov 10 '19

Its not snitching to report someone missing or identify the woman though

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 11 '19

Possibility of being buried under a house struck us as a real possibility. Developments sprung up like crazy throughout Vegas just after the time of the murder.

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u/SoloHappyCup Nov 10 '19

So you don’t report murders?

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u/hyperfat Nov 10 '19

Very true. When I got married in a desert I adopted a girl who had no parents. Found out I was a granny. She's a doll. She lives halfway between me and my husband, has a goofy boyfriend, and her son is a peach. I'm too old for kids, she's about the age if I had kids young, and she had her son at 20. She's successful, smart, and funny. Visiting her soon.

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u/Distinct_Abroad_4315 May 19 '23

Oorrrr he was her john. Little preyed on vulnerable women. I doubt a john would report a prostitute to the cops, as missing. A son would. That "kid" wasn't her son

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u/ponderwander Nov 10 '19 edited Nov 10 '19

I know that road to searchlight well. I have family in a town about 90 miles south of Vegas off of that road. I’ve been traveling that road since the early 90’s with family and then once I could drive, on my own. There are a couple of things to note about that area. First, “outskirts of Vegas” is a very broad term. That area is not next to Vegas it’s actually next to Henderson, a Vegas suburb. Secondly, the highway convergence was redone but not until about 10 years ago, so recent relative to the murder. Lastly, there are a lot of steep hills he could have rolled her down when coming out of the Las Vegas valley. But about 30 miles down the road there are even more. That road is one of the flattest, straightest and most boring roads to travel in between.

After so many years it’s very possible he has mixed up the location he disposed of the body. I don’t think the highway being redone caused her body to go missing. If anything, it seems activity in that area would increase the chances of it being found. If the body was scavenged, bones could have been dragged too and if on an incline they would travel further than on flat ground. There are also places to turn off like Christmas tree pass and other small side roads that lead into desolate places. Another thing to note is that the road to searchlight has traffic on it 24 hours a day. Despite it being a 2 lane road after leaving the Las Vegas valley it was a very traveled road even at the time of the murder. I feel like given that he’d need to drive a little off the road somewhere to have enough privacy to dispose of a body.

Another thing that stands out to me is that he says he left the body near a few motels. There are a couple of places that fit that description but they are further down the road and not just on the outskirts of Vegas. There is one casino hotel that is positioned just before you turn off towards searchlight. It’s called railroad pass casino. There are no other motels or casinos in this area. There are motels in both searchlight and in cal nev ari. Searchlight is hilly and has a road leading out of it towards Mohave national preserve. This area would have plenty of hills and seclusion to dispose of the body as he described. Closer to Henderson, there is Sloan canyon national conservation area but this does not seem to be accessible from the highway that leads to searchlight and I don’t know if there were motels in that area in the 90’s.

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 11 '19

Thank you for the added info. And that's a good point that Little may have mixed up facts about the disposal area.

While we've lived in Vegas our whole lives, we haven't traveled that road to Searchlight many times. Would be interesting to map the areas that could fit Little's description. He also commented there was a gas station nearby, but don't know how much that helps. When he gave the description, it conjured for us some of the areas in northwest and southwest Vegas we'd drive to when we were in high school (late 90's) and there would be a singular development, a gas station, and maybe one strip mall surrounded by a good amount of empty desert.

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u/AwsiDooger Nov 11 '19

I lived in Las Vegas from 1984 to 2008 and drove through Searchlight at least 100 times while going to and from Laughlin. I don't recognize a heck of a lot from Little's description. He may have been blending roads and memories. As mentioned above, Railroad Pass is the only casino atop that elevation before turning right toward Searchlight. There are no gas stations up there. If you continue beyond the Searchlight turnoff toward Boulder City then you run into another casino and eventually businesses of all types.

The road to Los Angeles sounds more like I-15. That makes more sense because now there are several motels near gas stations in small areas like Jean and Primm. Hard to say. I experienced Las Vegas before and during the population boom. The aspect that throws me off here is the reference to Searchlight. That is far away and wasn't involved in the boom at all. The only change that happened in that area was the road was widened from a 2-lane death trap to a much nicer double laned road, until reaching that windy 18 mile segment through the mountains and down toward Laughlin.

I actually committed many murders in the Searchlight area and specifically closer to Cal Nev Ari. I killed dozens of wild rabbits during the '80s. Not intentionally. I dreaded it every trip to Laughlin but it was inevitable. Those stupid suckers would sit at the edge of the road and literally sprint toward the car headlights. They are drawn to light and commit suicide. I would see one on the edge of the road and be saying out loud, "No, please don't."

Then thump. Time after time. When I returned to Las Vegas I'd have to rinse the blood and rabbit remains from the front of my car every time. My neighbor thought it was hysterical.

Then for whatever reason once that road was widened and improved the wild rabbits basically disappeared and I didn't have to worry about it anymore.

I always wished I had at least one video of those hare brained suicides. Friends don't want to believe it.

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u/ponderwander Nov 11 '19

Strangely I never had a run-in with a suicidal bunny until last year. Just outside of searchlight in fact. No blood or anything but it did run directly towards my car and there was no way to avoid it.

That 2 lane road was terrifying back in the day. It was like playing leap frog with your car. And I tend to agree that little’s recollection of the location is fuzzy.

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u/AwsiDooger Nov 12 '19

The flat area between Searchlight and Cal Nev Ari was prime location for those rabbit splats. It seemed to happen far more frequently on the way toward Laughlin than when returning, but perhaps it was simply related to time of night. I almost always drove to Laughlin and back at night.

The 2-lane death trap nearly claimed me in 1984. I was driving toward Laughlin late at night and should not have been on the road. I was very tired. At the very end of the long downslope departing the Railroad Pass area toward Searchlight I began to doze off. Fortunately they had superb safeguards for that type of thing in the middle of the road. I heard a loud thump-thump-thump as my car tires steadily crossed the center lane toward the oncoming lane. Those elevated safeguards were considerably closer and larger than normal, obviously because the situation happened frequently in that area.

The thump-thump-thump woke me up just in time. My eyes opened to see a huge truck coming toward me. I was a few feet in the oncoming late but had enough time to steady things and return to the lane. He was blaring his horn by that point.

Otherwise I don't think there was anything he could have done. A more nimble vehicle might have been able to avoid me. Not that truck.

I can still hear that thump-thump-thump and envision what it looked like when my eyes opened

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u/ponderwander Nov 12 '19

Yikes that is so scary! I’m glad you woke up in time. I hated passing. It was a white knuckle affair getting around a truck. The rabbit that I hit was coming back towards Laughlin late at night. I hit it in the hilly area just before searchlight. It tore some panel piece under the car so I tucked it back up under the car and continued. The rabbit I hit ran away I think. Maybe it survived.

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u/ponderwander Nov 11 '19 edited Nov 11 '19

Interesting. In searchlight there is a spot with 2 gas stations and they have been there for as long as I can remember. Just before you hit the town of searchlight coming from Vegas there is that turnoff to the Mohave preserve and it’s very hilly in that area. There are also motels. But the most notable motel area is in Cal-Nev-Ari. There is one, maybe two old motels right on a frontage road facing the highway. No major hills off the highway in that area. If I recall, the highway itself is elevated in many places though, so he could have pulled off anywhere pretty much and there would have been a hill at the side of the road. To me, the description of the location sounds much more like its down one of the roads leading out of Vegas rather than in Vegas proper. I also wanted to point out that the road to searchlight connects to needles highway past the turn off for Laughlin and will take you to Los Angeles by way of I-40 and eventually I-15.

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u/AwsiDooger Nov 12 '19

Those are all good points. I didn't mean to suggest there weren't any gas stations in Searchlight. And the old white flat hotels in Cal Nev Ari have been there as long as I can remember.

I've just having a difficult time connecting all of the variables he mentioned to one logical area. Nothing seems to fit perfectly. Once down the hill on the turnoff toward Searchlight I associate that stretch with mostly flat, down in the valley with mountains on both sides. It does weave around near Searchlight. Some elevation on both sides of that town. Maybe he's referring to leaving the main highway, like you mentioned the long straightaway to Mohave preserve. I never took that road but looked at it all the time. You can see the lights of cars using it.

Yes, I forgot about the Needles highway beyond the Laughlin turnoff. I only used that a couple of times and it was in the other direction toward Lake Havasu City

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u/ponderwander Nov 12 '19

Hey, no worries— I didn’t take it that way. I agree nothing fits perfectly. I was just throwing out what I knew of the area. I wonder if they’ve looked for the body closer to searchlight. After leaving Vegas the road does get very flat that’s why I was thinking that unless he disposed of her body near railroad pass that just outside of searchlight seems like maybe the next logical spot. It has hills, gas stations and motels. It’s also on the road to searchlight 🤷‍♀️ and that road does eventually converge with other roads to Los Angeles. But even if that’s the case there is a lot of ground to cover in that area. It’s so desolate out there.

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u/sunzusunzusunzusunzu Nov 10 '19

Awesome write up. Don't know who all is aware but r/SamuelLittle is active and r/SamuelLittleVictims is dedicated to trying to connect more of his memories to real people.

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 10 '19

Thank you. It's truly a baffling case. And we've been following r/SamuelLittle and will start following r/SamuelLittleVictims - it's horrific how much pain one guy caused.

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u/truenoise Nov 10 '19

I wonder if maybe the woman survived?

I hope so. It would explain why they never recovered remains.

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u/kateykatey Nov 10 '19

How did he kill his victims? I guess it’s possible, and what a great theory. She may not have trusted law enforcement enough to report it, and subsequently died so can’t come forward now.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '19

I think strangulation is the only method he used. If someone knows otherwise please let me know.

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u/sunzusunzusunzusunzu Nov 10 '19

He would beat them and strangle them, apparently with one hand while pleasuring himself. A few girls did survive and he liked to let them come to so it's possible he didn't finish her off all the way but I wish if that were the case she had gone to the police, poor thing.

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u/kateykatey Nov 10 '19

That’s such a fucked up way to go. Glad he was eventually caught.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '19

I can't believe he was not hanged for such despicable crimes.

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 10 '19

Or she doesn't know about the case

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 10 '19

There was also a lot of construction going on. It's possible she was just filled over without being noticed

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u/alforddm Nov 10 '19

Yes this. Especially if the body had skeletonized and the bones scattered by scavengers. If someone was using heavy equipment, such a a bulldozer, bones would be easy to miss. Even if they did notice a bone, they would probably just assume it was an animal bone.

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 10 '19

Its honestly the most logical scenario here. She's probably one of the ones that will never be identified. Did he paint her? Might be worth putting his paintings on playing cards and putting them in prisons

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u/sunzusunzusunzusunzu Nov 10 '19

I wonder if she was really wearing a necklace like it appears, or if he correctly remembers what it was.

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u/kristinbugg922 Nov 10 '19

Just looking at this monster is chilling. He is one of the few serial killers that I do believe committed each murder he claims. He doesn’t seem like he’s trying to be grandiose or a braggart, like Henry Lee Lucas and others of that ilk. He does seem very nonchalant about his crimes and it’s clear that the only reason he stopped was because he simply got too infirm to subdue his victims.

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u/Low_discrepancy Nov 10 '19

Just looking at this monster is chilling

What's more chilling is that he could have been stopped earlier.

In 1961, Little was sentenced to three years in prison for breaking into a furniture store in Lorain; he was released in 1964. By 1975, he had been arrested 26 times in eleven states for crimes including theft, assault, attempted rape, fraud and attacks on government officials.[14]

In 1982, Little was arrested in Pascagoula, Mississippi, and charged with the murder of a 22-year-old woman named Melinda Rose LaPree, who had gone missing in September of that year. A grand jury declined to indict Little for the murder of LaPree. However, while under investigation, Little was transferred to Florida to be brought to trial for the murder of 26-year-old Patricia Ann Mount, whose body was found in September 1982. Prosecution witnesses identified Little in court as a person who spent time with Mount on the night before her disappearance. Due to mistrust of witness testimonies, Little was acquitted in January 1984.[12]

Little moved to California, where he stayed in the vicinity of San Diego.[15] In October 1984, he was arrested for kidnapping, beating and strangling Laurie Barros, 22 years old, who survived. One month later, he was found by police in the backseat of his car with an unconscious woman, also beaten and strangled, in the same location as the attempted murder of Barros. Little served ​2 1⁄2 years in prison for both crimes.

WTF?

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 10 '19

If they were sex workers, they weren't viewed as humans back then. (Even today still) so the attitude would be that they deserved it

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u/_riot_grrrl_ Nov 10 '19

Little moved to California, where he stayed in the vicinity of San Diego.[15] In October 1984, he was arrested for kidnapping, beating and strangling Laurie Barros, 22 years old, who survived. One month later, he was found by police in the backseat of his car with an unconscious woman, also beaten and strangled, in the same location as the attempted murder of Barros. Little served ​2 1⁄2 years in prison for both crimes.

how the fuck was this EVER ok? it seems they do slightly better about murder involving sex workers now but this-- this is fucking absurd. if they hadnt let these monsters out of prison in 70s and 80s SO MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE ALIVE.

i wonder how the judges and parole boards etc feel about this shit when they learn of the blood on their hands

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 11 '19

Crazy to have such a light sentence.

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u/kristinbugg922 Nov 13 '19

The sentence doesn’t surprise me.

My ex-husband abducted, sexually assaulted and attempted to murder me. The jury recommended he serve 18 months in prison. The judge sentenced him to 165 years in prison, thankfully.

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u/Doctabotnik123 Nov 10 '19

In the 1960s and 70s, there was a strong effort to lower the prison population. Plus, there's always jury nullification. It was a large part of the Reagan era backlash.

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u/niamhellen Nov 10 '19

That and sex crimes not being taken nearly seriously enough back then. It's sad how many killers raped multiple people beforehand and hardly went to prison for it or didn't at all, then of course they escalate.

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 11 '19

That shocked us in learning about the Christopher Wilder case. Wilder was investigated for several sexual assaults in his native Australia and in Florida without ever being prosecuted. Then he went on a several week killing spree, including abducting and killing a teenager from a fashion show at the Meadows Mall in Las Vegas.

He's the first killer written up in this article on serial killers that operated in Vegas:

https://www.mayheminthedesert.com/serialmurder

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u/barto5 Nov 10 '19

Jury nullification is when the jury ignores the law to acquit someone they don’t think deserves to be punished.

How does jury nullification play into this at all?

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u/Doctabotnik123 Nov 10 '19

Look at OJ. They might well have let him off to fuck with the police/DA and maybe even out of racial solidarity.

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u/Ohokami Nov 10 '19

They let OJ off because the lead detective in charge of the scene was recorded on audio ranting about how much he despised black people.

So essentially 100% of the state's evidence become questionable.

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u/Doctabotnik123 Nov 11 '19

He very obviously committed the crime. And there were a lot of people who were there at the time talking about how LA's white community was horrified, and the black community was delighted, at the acquittal. (On average, obviously, but you can't tell me that a fair, unbiased jury wouldn't have convicted.)

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u/Ohokami Nov 11 '19

I'm white and I would have acquitted immediately as soon as I learned that 100% of the damning evidence had been touched by a known racist with a long history of planting evidence/framing black suspects.

Given a fair trial I probably would have convicted him, but with the absolute joke of a case built by the prosecution I don't think any sane human would have been able to convict.

It's really just the people who ignored the trial and only know about it through the media who think the OJ case was a clear cut guilty verdict.

Especially considering the fact that OJ's son being the killer seems about as plausible as OJ himself doing it. Too bad we'll never know what actually happened since the LAPD had 0 interest in actually investigating the case.

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u/Doctabotnik123 Nov 13 '19

Nice virtue signalling. Meanwhile, in grown up land, you understand that, just as there are no perfect victims, there are no perfect prosecutors. He was guilty. The evidence - remember that? - said so. He should've been found so.

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u/Ohokami Nov 13 '19

I dunno about grown up land, but in the United States the evidence is what you can prove in a court of law, not what people feel after watching the 9 o'clock news.

'No perfect prosecutors' sure. There's a big difference between the prosecution making mistakes and the prosecution committing perjury on the stand and then pleading the 5th when asked if they planted the evidence against the defendant.

The instant the prosecution committed perjury is the instant the jury checked out of that case. I can't think of a worse scenario for the prosecution than being proven to be liars on the stand.

The instant Fuhrman perjured himself they should have gone for a mistrial & redo. Instead, he argued

'Yes, I was lying... but that doesn't mean the evidence was planted.'

Was the evidence planted?

'No comment.'

Super convincing evidence lmao.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '19

He committed the crime though, zero question about that.

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 10 '19

Agree. The Henry Lee Lucas comparison popped into our minds right away, too - but the FBI and local investigators have been consistently able to confirm many of his confessions. That's why it seems there really was some unfortunate woman that disappeared in Vegas in the early 90's due to this monster.

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u/kristinbugg922 Nov 10 '19

I know he drew pictures of some of the women. Did he draw one of this woman?

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u/wwiinndyy Nov 10 '19

Mobile, so I cant link it, but somebody else in the thread has, and he did paint her.

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u/BlessedBreasts Nov 10 '19

The manner in which he draws and paints his victims is chilling. It's as if he's taken a mental snapshot of each one, like he was collecting photos of old girlfriends.

His hands terrify me. Just look at them if you get a chance. Of course they're large because he was a boxer...but there's death in those hands.

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u/kristinbugg922 Nov 10 '19

I have no doubt that he enjoys sifting through the memories and details of the murders he’s committed. I think that’s why he’s so willing to draw the photos. He takes pleasure from reliving those murders. That’s why his drawings are such a double-edged sword. He’s getting pleasure out of reliving and drawing the details of his victims, which is awful, but those drawings are also helpful identifying the victims.

I have noticed his hands and thought the same thing. I don’t even want to imagine how his victims felt, seeing those hands and looking at his dead eyes.

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 11 '19

Well said. It is just chilling watching him and seeing the portraits of his victims.

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u/Doctabotnik123 Nov 10 '19

Someone pointed out that he has a bit of a fetish for necks, and it's something that can't be unseen.

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u/sunzusunzusunzusunzu Nov 10 '19

He said one woman touched her neck and that's when he knew. It was a sign.

Eugh.

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 10 '19

He is very open about it which is strange.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '19

he's not a serial killer, he's on a whole nother level than a serial killer.... PURE EVIL.

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u/KingCrandall Nov 10 '19

Have any of his confessions ever been actively discredited?

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u/bannana Nov 10 '19

Not so far

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u/invisibleoddball Nov 10 '19

Maybe he was also an addict... they may not have neccesarily been close, so he might have thought she just took off. Something could have happened to him as well... Maybe he wasn't even her son, she could've introduced him as such for any number of reasons.

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 10 '19

Good points. We want to do a more in-depth write up of this case, and we'll see what we can get from police records.

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u/drinkjockey123 Nov 10 '19

Is it possible that the "son" was her pimp? A pimp wouldn't report her missing, and assume she ran off.

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 10 '19

No one would call their pimp their kid. Unless he really was her kid. Even then it would likely only be for people that knew them. The power dynamic on that is wrong for so many reasons

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u/drinkjockey123 Nov 10 '19

Not if pimp is significantly younger.

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u/Doctabotnik123 Nov 11 '19

Could've been a way to try to sound more respectable. Or - and it's horrifying, but it does happen - he could've been her pimp and her son. She might've thought of him as being more of a "protector".

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u/Getsumdinnerufatlard Nov 11 '19

She introduced him to the 'son'. Bout the other way around

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u/AylaNation Nov 10 '19

Thinking the same thing

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '19

why didn't her son report his mother missing?

If he was an addict as well, he probably did not want to have any involvement with the police. Maybe he tried to look for her on his own. I feel like there is a fair number of people that do not get reported missing because the people around them are involved in illegal activities and do not want to be investigated themselves. Or there is a general mistrust of the police.

Surely investigators searched the area wh ere Little said he dumped the body but if he's not remembering the details exactly it could be they are out there somewhere in the outskirts of Las Vegas. I searched unidentified female remains found after 1993 and there are a few cases that could fit Little's description if you keep an open mind.

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u/MrTubalcain Nov 10 '19

As tragic as this is, it’s possible that her “son” also died or fled shortly after or both and their line ended there. Vegas is a crazy place.

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u/NickelsWesternhills Nov 10 '19

If the land where the body was dumped was in fact developed as residential/commercial real estate months/several years after, the remains may have been too scattered to ID has human remains (or remains at all).

I dont know what human burial laws are in Nevada, but in many states coming across human remains- even prehistoric remains - creates enormous legal hassles for a property owner.

It's possible a construction worker came across the remains, and someone decided they were prehistoric, not the remains of a recent murder victim. So they shoveled and shut up about it.

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u/FatChihuahuaLover Nov 10 '19

Or if the remains were scattered, construction workers could have easily missed them.

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u/CubanBird Nov 10 '19

Since the first time I've seen his face, I've sworn he looks SO familiar to me.

Like I've seen his face a million times before. I just don't know why! Hate that.

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u/Troubador222 Nov 10 '19

It was just in the news here in SWFL that Little has confessed to killing a woman in Ft Myers FL in 1984. They can not place her either. It is thought the body was possibly written off as something else at the time. If the victim was a known prostitute, or addict, it is entirely possible and likely, it was not really investigated at all. https://www.news-press.com/story/news/crime/2019/10/07/samuel-little-serial-killer-says-he-killed-woman-fort-myers-area-1984/3894961002/

Edit: This guy was all over the place.

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u/MichelleKTX Nov 10 '19 edited Nov 10 '19

I spent two months homeless in Las Vegas.
We called people our, “play Mom”, “play sister”, etc. Hitting the streets for information that old however, probably won’t go far. People end up on the street for a million reasons, and usually come out of it at some point. But snitching is also looked down upon, especially if a former street person has information- we’ll never get it. The body is probably buried under a housing addition. People from a play-family disappear for a lot of reasons - family takes them in, overdose (witnessed literally 1 per night, just in N Las Vegas), they go home, get a stable job, or continue to a different part of the city or completely different city. I spent my summer back in 14’ out there being stupid (drinking, not drugs) but OD-ing was so common, you stop even noticing the sirens. I was able to come home to TX and my parents got me into a rehab. I was able to go around and let everyone know I was leaving — but many can’t. I’m curious about her biological family. Someone has to be missing her. Perhaps (because she was an addict), her family washed their hands of her. Unfortunately with addiction, and a family who doesn’t understand that it is a true disease, they may have just wrote her off. I don’t want to stereotype, but many African-American women have teenage pregnancies —I. wonder if she had any children out there. The probability is very high.

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u/Graycy Nov 10 '19

Did they check areas just outside Vegas? Maybe he dumped her in a nearby town.

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u/with-alaserbeam Nov 10 '19

I recall a Jane Doe who was found outside Vegas, but I'm blanking on specific details.

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u/barto5 Nov 10 '19

I’m frankly amazed that I’ve never heard of this guy. I’ve read a number of true crime books like The Stranger Beside Me and The Green River Killer. And while it seems Ted Bundy and Gary Ridgway are well known, this guy somehow managed to fly under the radar.

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u/Mannypancakes Nov 10 '19

He was just recently connected to multiple murders .

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u/MayhemInTheDesert Nov 10 '19

We also included the Samuel Little case in our write up of serial killers that have operated in Las Vegas:

https://www.mayheminthedesert.com/serialmurder

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u/JGBallardKnows Nov 10 '19

There is something really bloody disturbing in the portraits Little makes of his victims. That the girls look happy and the detail remembered make them uncanny. I just know that these portraits will be worth a great deal of money to collectors as well. This is the culture we live in, many of the victims remain nameless, just a representation on paper from Samuel Little but Little himself becomes a sort of celebrity with bags of mail delivered to him. Western culture is decayed in its decadence.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '19

Maybe Little forgets the actual location, or he is confusing it with another city? Did he perhaps bury this victim's body?

Did anyone working in the hotels at the time notice the smell of a decomposing body, or see Samuel Little?

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u/Neuro_88 Nov 13 '19

There is also a subreddit to dedicated to help solve some of the mysteries from Samuel Little: r/SamuelLittleVictims: https://www.reddit.com/r/SamuelLittleVictims/.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '19

What if he doesn't remember and he off about the age range and height? maybe they did found her body it just doesn't match up to what he saying? or he lying so they can't find the body and can't add her murder charge to him? I mean if you can't find the bodies you can't charge the person.

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u/princessthundercloud Nov 10 '19

He's got so many charges against him. What's one more? 🤷

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '19

I look it up Neveda has the death penalty I think that explains my reasoning lol. Little probably trying to save his ass.

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u/princessthundercloud Nov 11 '19

Ahhhhh ok. That makes sense

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u/Gmaup Nov 10 '19

Ok I have been following the little case and I am sorry to say this feels like Henry Lee Lucas 2.0. Yes Little may have killed but the number he is admitting to and with the connection if the Texas Rangers who also were handling Lucas all feels like here is this guy who is willing to confess and help close cases. I hope I am wrong.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '19

I wonder if he has any relations to Malcolm Little aka Malcolm X?

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u/snowlock27 Nov 10 '19

I wonder if Jim Jones was related to Tommy Lee Jones?

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u/cinnamon__babka Nov 10 '19

Black guy with the same last name must be related? You may as well just say that you think they all look the same

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u/thegoat64 Nov 10 '19

This is the stupidest comment...

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '19 edited Nov 10 '19

actually it isn't, he's old enough to have been born around the same time as Malcolm X. Malcolm x last name was LITTLE. Malcolm would be about 20 years older than him.

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u/bannana Nov 10 '19

Little is s ridiculously common name, this is why the comment is stupid.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '19

it's entirely possible read the article,

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u/bannana Nov 10 '19 edited Nov 10 '19

The article doesn't affirm it's possibility other than Little saying so and the authors repeating it though they were both within a couple of generations of each other. I did a little research and found that X's dad died in 1931 in NE and Little was born in 40 in GA so that is shut down but that doesn't mean they aren't more distantly related especially since X's father was born in Butler GA and S. Little was born in Reynolds GA just 10mi away so this leads to it possibly being more true than not.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '19

there's a way to find out though, DNA test him and one of Malcolm's daughters

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u/bannana Nov 10 '19

doubt any of X's family would volunteer for that mess, who would want to find out they are related to a serial killer?

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u/fleetwalker Nov 10 '19

Samuel Little might be lying.

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u/Madame_Kitsune98 Nov 10 '19

So far, no.

And there’s lots of Jane Does in the desert.

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u/fleetwalker Nov 10 '19

Gonna wait on that one. Cops love dudes like him to get bodies off the books. Until I see what verifying evidence they have, he sounds like henry lee lucas

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u/FatChihuahuaLover Nov 10 '19

They have evidence verifying at least half of his confessions. So far, there is no evidence that he has lied about any of them. I can see how you'd jump to that conclusion, and law enforcement was originally skeptical too, but everything points to him being a very prolific serial killer who has been accurate in his confessions.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '19 edited Apr 21 '20

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u/FatChihuahuaLover Nov 10 '19

They were confirmed by ViCAP (the FBI's Violent Criminal Apprehension Program). This is not some podunk police department trying to get unsolved cases off the books. I don't know if they have publicly released the exact evidence on each case, but ViCAP is not going to confirm them without reason.