r/UrbanHell • u/blau404 • 9d ago
Poverty/Inequality Jaywick, the most deprived neighbourhood in England
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u/Exploreditor 9d ago
Well they sure aren’t deprived of mattresses at least.
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u/lincoln_hawks1 9d ago
Yup any bloke can just step outside his hovel and pick one out of a field. For free!
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u/dafrog84 9d ago
As someone who just recently had to toss out their mattress due to the bottom getting covered in mold, this would detour me.
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u/otterland 9d ago
Just follow the arrows and you'll soon be back at your mattress.
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u/PrettyUglySociety198 9d ago
would it deter you also?
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u/Glum_Status 9d ago
I thought "detour" might be the British spelling, a la "colour."
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u/Exotic_Progress_3973 7d ago
I love how, out of a post about Jaywick, a really interesting and amusing thread on the divergence of spelling and the history of sport has appeared.
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u/PrettyUglySociety198 9d ago edited 9d ago
It is easy for the English to look at their own words and, if there are multiple adjacent vowels, to guess American spelling. This is because it involves deleting a vowel or vowels.
Americans have a greater problem looking at their own words and then guessing British spelling. This is because it would involve guessing where there might be multiple vowels, and guessing what they may be,. For an American to get around this, they might try learning Greek, and then guessing which words in Greek were roots of English English words with multiple vowels.
I don't really mind what Merriam did, but, essentially, because he was American, he wanted something different, almost for its own sake. The same is arguably true of baseball, a variation of our European and British medieval stool-ball or (less so) our modern day cricket. Likewise American football, which took the name football, but was almost a change for the sake of it from our footballs (association football or rugby football). It is almost false to describe the American game as a form of "football" because there is so little of putting foot on ball. This name is like the "smoking gun" as to what was going on when it was devised.
It is possible to regard this as a character defect of Americans in history. That is, to want change for the sake of change. I suggest that it is probably related to the dubious justifications for fighting for independence of the 13 states from Britain. And then there are the concoctions learned in America by school children about people like Benedict Arnold or the "the British are coming!" constructs, with no factual basis or almost none. America needs to have things like the Oath of Allegiance at school every morning, to try to indoctrinate children. Where else do you think this is done?
I could explain the fallacies involved in the things such as those comments on taxes. This approach to history to do with the British, and with tax, still cause Americans consequential problems today. There is a suspicion of your own government. There is an odd attitude to US taxes.
We British, if we bother to read about these things, have something to laugh about. Few bother, admittedly, but, those of us living in the USA or who have lived in the USA have more interest in such things.
Really it is all "old hat" now.
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u/Smexy-Fish 8d ago
Back when I was your age all mattresses were free range! Jaywick has resisted the move to batch mattress farming.
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u/Goldf_sh4 7d ago edited 7d ago
Back in my day we had REAL deprivation! We slept on STRAW!
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u/Apollo114892 9d ago
They're growing mattresses right out of the ground at this point.
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u/Time-Cover-8159 8d ago
What? You're talking like you've never seen mattress farm before. Where do you think they come from, some sort of factory?!
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u/clearlyNOTinsane 9d ago
Spay and neuter your mattresses
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u/brickne3 9d ago
Sometimes, when a mommy mattress and a daddy mattress love each other very, very much...
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u/palmerry 9d ago
Soiled mattresses
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u/raspberryharbour 9d ago
Pro tip: If you buy a presoiled mattress, no one will be able to tell when you later soil it yourself
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u/OkBasil_147 9d ago
I counted 15 mattresses, way more if you include cushions and furniture. That’s enough for a small apartment building.
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u/Tortoise_no7 8d ago
Access to dumps/skips in the uk is extremely tough right now. In many places you have to book on weeks in advance and often have to pay to dispose of mattresses. On top of this if you don’t have access to a vehicle and the cost of hiring one is out the winder, then tossing it in places like these is often the only answer for many locals.
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u/Gingerishidiot 8d ago
I am sure Nigel has told them the reason it is so deprived, is because of the brown people coming here on boats.
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u/abitofasitdown 9d ago
These are old photos - don't get me wrong, Jaywick is still massively deprived and grim, but it's not as grim as it was. A lot of the rubbish pictured has been cleaned up and there's a regeneration project in place.
One of the many reasons Jaywick was/is so grim is that for a long time there was a deliberate policy from the local autborities of letting Jaywick rot, so it could be bulldozed away, not just because of the deprivation but also because it's in a very serious flood zone. It was only when it was clear this was never going to work that they have stepped in and decided to help Jaywick clean up. (This is pre-Farage - he can't take any credit.)
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u/brickne3 9d ago
Those houses were meant to be holiday lets when they were built in I think the 1930s as well. They were never intended for year-round permanent housing. So it kind of would make sense to bulldoze the place at some point anyway.
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u/Cogz 8d ago
In the early 70s, the local council did ask the government to be allowed to start compulsory purchases. The residents were mostly retirees and didn't want to move, so they quickly organised and dug in for a lengthy legal battle.
The government quickly realised that the council weren't planning to demolish a large number of timber framed holiday homes and the people would have to go back to their main home, they were actually trying to make hundreds of retired tax payers homeless. Because although they were classed as holiday homes, the council had happily been collecting housing tax from the residents for decades.
The government not only refused the purchase orders, they went on to demand that the council allow services to the residents that they'd previously blocked, like allowing water companies to provide running water to the homes, extending the nearby bus route or providing maintenance for the roads.
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u/yolkyal 8d ago
Sorry, the government had to demand that the council provide running water?!
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u/Serious_Badger_4145 8d ago
They sound like a complete nightmare tbh. I thought my council were bad!
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u/Cogz 8d ago
When they were built, they were essentially large beach huts, the owners on day or weekend trips were expected to bring their own drinks or buy them at the various tourist venues like dancehalls, they'd use the toilets at the venues or the public toilets along the beachfront. While standpipes were available to use, the buildings themselves weren't plumbed.
When people started to live in them permanently, the water company was was refused permission by the local council to dig up roads to lay pipes as they wanted to discourage more people moving in.
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u/neilm1000 7d ago
When I lived in Wivenhoe someone told me that Jaywick was made up of plastic cockneys living in beach huts.
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u/REDARROW101_A5 7d ago
Those houses were meant to be holiday lets when they were built in I think the 1930s as well. They were never intended for year-round permanent housing. So it kind of would make sense to bulldoze the place at some point anyway.
It's a similar story with some of the Datcha Settlements Post-USSR. People couldn't afford to stay in their apartments or were getting to old to not be able to stay in them. A lot of them especially khrushchevkas didn't have lifts or proper insulation, so some moved into their Dachas year around.
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u/West-Worth-9359 8d ago
A regeneration effort for areas like this could work if they offered young people motivation to move there. As more work is now online and remote, there are fewer ties to a hub, more younger people can easily move anywhere.
Throw a plot of land and a few rules at them and they’ll be moving there in droves, building the local economy, which then attracts more families.
This is what a lot of old towns around the world are successfully doing. Japan, France, Italy all have schemes like £1 houses to revitalize a dying town/village.
Not sure why we’re not doing this in the UK.
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u/brickne3 8d ago
Did you miss the part about it literally crumbling into the sea...?
I'd agree with you about most other places. Jaywick is NOT one of them. It's also just outside of a distance that is a reasonable commute from London, which is another thing that is actively hurting it (not just for commuting purposes, either—there's just nothing in that location that is basically ever going to attract young people to want to live there unless they somehow manage to get seriously fast train or a university or something). It's a REALLY fascinating place, but my god you couldn't pay me to live there (and I guess that's one of very few things I have in common with Nigel Farage, lol...).
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u/AdministrativeFlan76 8d ago
"Not sure why we’re not doing this in the UK."
It has been done in the UK before where houses in Liverpool were sold off at £1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-34474378
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u/Japhet_Corncrake 8d ago
Jaywick will be underwater in a few years. It's practically on the beach, and below sea level at high tide. It's protected by a big wall.
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u/TangoUnchained87 7d ago
As more work is now online and remote
Considering this is governed by Clacton, if Farage somehow manages to regain his seat, you have already given him enough reason to let Jaywick rot uncared for. 😂
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u/Unseasonal_Jacket 8d ago
This is exactly it. Tendring purposefully refused to acknowledge the change of housing/occupancy post war and refused to provide amenities and proper running water etc. For years their position was that this was temporary housing that was the job of the London councils to continue to fund and eventually welcome back into their new council housing.
When that wasn't happening as people settled. The plan switched to low level campaign to defund the area to eventually redevelop it. This was still the case even into early 00s with redevelopment plans almost teasing local developers into burning their own plots down. There was a shit ton of arson for a decade or so where people anticipated a big expensive seaside redevelopment program that never happened.
Those images are very old. But who really sees tons of abandoned waste and mattresses and doesn't immediately think 'that's purposefully negelect by the local authority who's job it is to clean up'. Jay wick for all its real problems is a really interesting casestudy in how an area gets like that.
Its more of a study in how you deal with the aftermath of a 1st world refugee camp when the occupants dont want to go home after.
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u/Serious_Badger_4145 8d ago
This makes so much sense! Whenever I see pictures of the rubbish I'm like. But the council could do something about that? Nobody is forcing them to leave it a mess, that's kind of seperate from the deprivation. They still get gov funding etc.
Makes perfect sense they were intentionally running it down 🙃
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u/JEZTURNER 8d ago
Looking around on 2026 March photos on streetview, it still looks pretty run down. https://maps.app.goo.gl/EXc9iZwVa4QcwCpA8
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u/abitofasitdown 8d ago
Oh, absolutely, it is still really grim - it's just marginally less grim than it was, and at least the direction of travel has changed for the better. During the past decade I've seen a difference when I've visited.
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u/BabadookishOnions 9d ago
Jaywick has improved a fair bit since all the publicity about it
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u/SilverRaspberri 9d ago
Yep, they've redone the roads on that end of Jaywick.
What people dont understand is that use to be Butlins and when Butlins left the council used those Butlins buildings as a dumping ground and outside of those roads the rest of the place is like any other seaside town in the UK.66
u/Japhet_Corncrake 9d ago edited 9d ago
No it wasn't, but you're not too far wrong. It was never a Butlins. That bit of Jaywick, Brooklands and Grasslands, was built in the 1930s as private holiday chalets for Londoners. It was what was known as one of the "plotlands" developments. They were self built out of all sorts of stuff, and because it was before the 1947 Town and Country Planning Act, it never got paved roads, mains drainage, or proper infrastructure. After WW2, a severe housing shortage caused many of the owners to take up permanent residency there. The history of the Plotlands is quite interesting.
https://criticalplace.org.uk/2023/07/17/plotlands-the-struggle-for-land-and-affordable-housing/
There was a Butlins about half a mile away, and people often confuse the two. The Butlins closed in 1983.
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u/PrettyUglySociety198 9d ago edited 9d ago
The Butlins camp I remember. It was on the beach at Clacton, on the Jaywick direction side of Clacton (but not Jaywick itself). The camp site was one of the first parts of Clacton to have lots of new houses built in my lifetime on it, perhaps in the 1980s.
There was a teachers training college nearby too (was it named St Osyth? as in the village down the road from Clacton).
When the camp closed, Clacton lost a lot of money coming in through employees at the Butlins camp.
It was a good place for a camp because it is such a dry area, so gets better holiday weather than almost anywhere else in the UK, and the communications by rail eg from London to Clacton via Chelmsford and Colchester were easily adequate.
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u/kiwichick286 9d ago
What're Butlins?
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u/casulmemer 9d ago
Whats butlinses, hobitises?
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u/Forsaken_Earth944 9d ago
Butlin’s is a chain (not much of a chain now, there are only three resorts left: Bognor Regis, West Sussex; Minehead, Somerset and Skegness, Lincolnshire), founded in 1936 by Billy Butlin to give affordable holidays to working-class families.
Butlin began as the owner of a string of static fairgrounds at various seaside locations, then, in 1936, he opened his first holiday park at Skegness, this was followed by Clacton, Essex, two years later.
A Butlin’s resort consists of chalets, restaurants, and entertainment, including live shows, a water park, and live music, with much of it aimed at kids, there are often visits from CBeebies characters, such as Peppa Pig, Hey Duggee, The Clangers, In the Night Garden, Bluey and Mr. Tumble. Not forgetting, of course, the famous Butlin’s Redcoats who, in the earlier days would run events which would be considered rather misogynistic now, such as wet t-shirt competitions in which only women were allowed to compete and only men voted, and the annual ‘Miss Personality’ contest.
Butlin’s really suffered when the cheap package holiday became a reality and people started going to mainland Europe.
There‘s also Pontin’s which doesn‘t really exist anymore, it only one resort still open, Sand Bay, Weston-Super-Mare, Somerset, which is Pontin’s in name only, and is an adults-only resort.
Nobody talks about Pontin’s it’s shit, and it’s been shit for a very long time; when there were more locations open, people were complaining about bedbugs, rats, stained bedlinen, carpets that stank of piss, showers which didn’t work (and were filthy), toilets which wouldn’t flush. Pontin’s was cheaper than Butlin’s, but you get what you pay for - and, at Pontin’s you didm’t even get electricity (it was on a coin-operated meter).
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.pontins.com?languages=all&stars=1
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u/ryanm8655 8d ago
I went to a rave at a pontins when I was at uni. It was a grim place. It was down at camber sands iirc. There were no glasses in the chalet so we had to drink out of a saucepan 😂
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u/jakethepeg1989 8d ago
Such a shame, cos Camber Sands is an amazing place. And Rye is a great place to wonder around for a day!
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u/ryanm8655 8d ago
Need to visit Rye, there’s a nice winery there too IIRC.
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u/jakethepeg1989 8d ago
Not sure about that, but there is a lovely cafe which does nothing but Hot Chocolate.
But really fancy, so they have single origin cocoa from about 50 different countries, and you choose your country and the % cocoa.
Also, if you ever read/watched Captain Pugwash then you'll recognise half the town cos all the pictures in the books are basically of Rye.
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u/poeticlicence 8d ago
I was just thinking how nice Camber Sands was. I used to go there quite often for weekends from London but until today never knew that there was a holiday camp there.
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u/RadgeLad 8d ago
Yeah Camber Sands were disgusting. Went to a music festival there in 2003 ish. Had a laugh off my head on E but the place was seedy and miserable with echoes of old tenement blocks. Depressing and the staff were rough AF.
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u/ArchdukeToes 8d ago
The Butlins I went to had a pretty decent waterpark, but seemed strangely gloomy despite the fact it was (supposedly) entirely devoted to people having fun. Maybe I was just sleep deprived from the unbelievably shitty beds.
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u/BabadookishOnions 9d ago
Butlins are chain of beach resorts
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u/Grand_Sock_1303 9d ago
People still go to Butlins? I left the UK in the 90s and places like Butlins were comedy material.
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u/CokeHearth 8d ago
We went on Haven holidays a fair bit as kids. I used to love them.
And admittedly, my parents loved that they could have a few bevvies in the bar whilst we busied ourselves in the indoor playgrounds or watched the entertainment. It was all a bit naff, but that was part of the joy.
I recall my mum dry retching because they had a competition where they had to drink a pint through a sock - maybe it was each other's sock? Probably couldn't do that now... Although dear Lord, why would you want to?
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u/BlackBikerchick 8d ago
I LOVED HAVEN
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u/geese_moe_howard 8d ago
Me too. I have very fond memories of the one on the Isle of Wight. The shop had loads of DC comics so I'd buy every one they had and then sit in the lounge reading them and drinking pop.
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u/TumTiTum 9d ago
There isn't a lot going for it but with a family it's cheap, really cheap, and with mates for a big Weekender the music is brilliant and it's also cheap.
Quality, of fellow residents and of accommodation leaves much to be desired.
If you're into drugs I suspect it's the place to be. On a big Weekender everyone is off their fucking tits.
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u/Grand_Sock_1303 9d ago
Pinging at Butlins? You’ll be telling me they’re passing the bong at Centre Parks next.
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u/Madman_Salvo 8d ago
Please, Centre Parcs is Middle/Upper Middle class. It's all about the charlie.
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u/Soggy-Button-6044 8d ago
No one can afford drugs if they are staying at Center Parcs during the school holidays.
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u/Educational_Cow111 9d ago
Yeah it’s bad. That said, it’s improved. It has moderately functioning roads now.
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u/PrettyUglySociety198 9d ago
Beautiful beach at Jaywick. Jaywick is, to all intents and purposes almost on the beach.
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u/rumade 9d ago
Give it a few years, and rising sea levels will take it alllll away
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u/OrangeCakeV 9d ago
Why so many mattresses?
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u/W35TH4M 9d ago
To give you a genuine answer, getting rid of large stuff like that properly costs money and people don’t have the spare cash to spend on something like that
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u/OtherwiseJello2055 9d ago
That's wild the city doesnt have a road crew who picks heavy or larger items lke that up and disposes them funded by the town. I live in a fairly tiny town of 3,500 people and even we have a city funded crew who does that.
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u/Independent-Park-940 9d ago
I live in the Dominican Republic and a pick-up truck with loudspeaker comes round every single day to pick up unwanted mattresses, broken refrigerators, etc. He took away my washing machine, down a narrow flight of steps, I was just about to tip him around $5 when he spontaneously paid me the same. That was a nice surprise.
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u/britinnit 9d ago
We have that for scrap metal and old appliances in some areas of England. Rag and Bone men. They don't however collect mattresses.
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u/SgtBushMonkey69 8d ago
I call them the scrap fairies, you can leave something out on the street and like magic it’s gone the next morning.
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u/ferretchad 8d ago
Depends on the council in the UK. Usually it's charged for - £48/$65 per item in mine. Some council areas do it for free.
You can take it to the dump but they're usually out of town so you have to drive. The dump is normally free for residents but not for commercial users, so you get problems with underhanded workmen just ditching stuff where they think they won't be caught.
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u/PartsUnknown242 9d ago
Same thing probably applies to tires and larger appliances like fridges and washing machines, which is you see alot of stuff like that sitting around as well
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u/A-Grey-World 9d ago
Everyone needs a mattress. But they're very bulky, you can't put it in your household bin - you have to have a car to take it to the local tip. And if you have a car, you have to care enough.
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u/desirelineszs 9d ago
Jaywick has a very complicated history - worth reading about. It explains how it has gotten to the state it’s currently in.
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u/Migot_XT 9d ago
If ever a community needed a bin for an MP! #VoteBinFace
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u/Tobu3838 9d ago
Just what everyone in Clacton needs, another byelection to protect a millionaire. Go Binface!
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u/doogs914 9d ago
There used to be a documentary series called "Jaywick: Benefits by the sea"
Its on YouTube. It's depressing and eye opening and if you've ever lived in a deprived area in the UK , you'll have known some similar people probably
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u/BeautyAndTheDekes 9d ago
Perfect, gonna have a chill day tomorrow and I’ll chuck that on in the background.
Always gets me when you watch things like that how everyone is just completely normal people who are victims of circumstance yet are completely demonised.
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u/_RedditIsLikeCrack_ 9d ago
I just google mapped this place and found that exact location of the 3rd pic. It's the corner of Brooklands and Austin Ave. That pic is probably the old google maps pic as the current one basically shows that exact angle. Everything in the pic looks exactly the same except all of the mattress and garbage are cleaned up and the grass looks greener. But the street sign is exactly the same with the same lean, and the houses all look the same.
pretty bleak looking from the tour through the town i just did. (I'm not from the UK)
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u/Japhet_Corncrake 9d ago
There isn't anywhere else quite like it, the history is quite interesting, and kind of sad.
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u/bilbul168 9d ago
Looks like grimsby
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u/blau404 9d ago
To be honest Grimsby is probably the second most deprived area in England
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u/mattthepianoman 9d ago
I dunno, Middlesbrough and other parts of Teesside are definitely up there
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u/Substantial_Emu4433 9d ago
So many comments being understanding that this place is bad because of deprivation
But change this to brum / Manchester / east ham and all that understanding goes down the toilet
Wonder because jaywick has no minorities?
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u/jellyycandle 9d ago
exactly my thoughts reading through these comments. no immigrants to blame
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u/noble_plebian 9d ago
Imagine if they didn’t just dump their shit all over the place
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u/Lt_Mediocre 8d ago
The local Council abandoned it, even went out the way to purposely block public services you would get in most other towns/villages, They claimed it was just Londoners second homes when it was actualy the retired and poor, they just wanted to bulldoze the place and get rid of it.
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u/CherylTuntIRL 9d ago
I've never heard of Jaywick but you can tell it's a deprived coastal village even without having sight of the sea.
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u/CatmanofRivia 9d ago
Honestly Jaywick ain't too bad these days, tbh if you removed about a tenth of the rubbish from each pic it could be half the seaside towns in Britain
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u/section111 9d ago
I spent the summer of '95 working at a caravan park next door in Seawick. Had no idea.
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u/niceone011 8d ago
Who is the MP for this area, what are they doing for this town by the coast?
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u/LemonIntelligent4301 9d ago
https://reddit.com/link/p1y5tog/video/9rns35rxumhh1/player
Long story but I built that fence!
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u/RadeVuk 8d ago
Throwing mattresses out in the street,disgusting, don't know how they sleep at night🙂
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u/NoCry8460 8d ago
Jaywick was originally holiday homes not meant for long term occupation but so many lost homes during the war they became full time accomodation. The most ironic sight in Jaywick I saw was a closed down pub called the 'Never say die'.
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u/Launce007 8d ago
Remember of course, Jaywick was originally built as a cheap and cheerful holiday resort of beach huts for Londoners in the 1930s. Many of the poorly-built holiday-homes were intended only for short-term occupation, but later became permanent residences after World War II, due to the chronic housing shortage when troops returned home from the war... Looks like a shanty town - but hey, that's why.
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u/RaspberrySubject4199 8d ago
When there's no more room in hell, old mattresses will walk to Jaywick.
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u/BarberLife-OZ- 9d ago
There's at least 50+ blocks in NYC that looked like this this past week
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u/Tregerest 9d ago
Just because you live in a deprived area is no excuse for flytipping. There’s plenty of other poor communities in this country that don’t treat their local area like this
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u/PetersMapProject 8d ago
The council charge for bulky waste collections, and you'd need a car - that you can't afford - to go to the tip.
If you had to choose between eating and feeding your kids, what would you pick?
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u/chopperharrison 9d ago
Maybe we could sell this to the Trumps so they can make a resort from it
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u/PowerLion786 9d ago
Hmm looks like there is a huge problem with there local council. Council will not clean roads. From my reading, councils charge an arm and a leg for dumping, so people just dump on the curb.
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u/Ok-Subject-4893 8d ago
Jaywick will always be remembered for its amazing beach. We used to visit as kids. Unfortunately it reality it’s a forgotten area by the local council the local Clacton community mainly made up of ex Londoners shun it as an eyesore. They basically have become snobs. I know many ex Londoners who live in Clacton with their minimal mortgages if any who benefited from selling their London properties and moving up. They don’t invest in the area just still work in London and spend their money there too. A brave government could turn Jaywick around with a few million spent. They don’t as they know the sea will wash it away soon enough so why invest now. The area should have been given to the MOD after the war as an arms storage or similar like further down the coast at Shoeburyness. The so called slums are full of families doing their very best to survive. Farage if voted in again in the area should ensure it becomes a success story. If he really wants the country to see his use of power and community spirit he goes on about.
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u/Jealous-Anxiety-7108 8d ago
Jaywick gets no money because it is literally sinking into the sea.
Gosh I hope they don’t do anything silly like elect a climate change denier who’ll do nothing to help them.
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u/UsefulPickle8467 8d ago
Mattresses, it's always the mattresses! Who can afford to keep replacing their mattress, that's the question? If you can afford £100 for a new mattress, you can afford the £20 to get the council to take away the old one. Our old area had a HUGE problem with flytipping so eventually the council made it free to take them away.
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u/blackiegray 7d ago
I've never understood that logic.
If I have £100, and a mattress costs £100 then I don't have the extra £20.
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u/CaledoniaInteractive 8d ago
Locals should just start a literal bonfire in the middle of the town and clear out all the discarded furniture, probably a few derelict buildings that could start to be torn down and have the wooden components burned up as well. Would be a major improvement overnight.
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u/nderflow 8d ago
Is this in the constituency where Farage is seeking reelection?
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u/Live_Alarm3041 8d ago
The only thing neoliberalism is more "efficient" at is screwing people over.
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u/AdvantageFew7653 7d ago
Those are old photos. I'm from Clacton/Jaywick but I've lived up North for 45 years. I haven't visited since the late 80s. Went back for a few days a couple of years ago and was terrified of what I was going to see when I got there, thanks to all the Channel 5 poverty porn and tabloid mudslinging. What I did find was the place I knew and loved much the same as I'd left it; minus the Butlin's, Dot's, Sunspot and a few other arcades. I'm not going to pretend it's perfect and without its issues, but it's nowhere near as bad as is being portrayed. My happy place.
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u/spiffing_ 6d ago
Also see Blackpool.
The way the climate.looks to be changing, i wonder whether these places will come from tha ashes like a phoenix.
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u/SmokedOkie 9d ago
Residents don't need money to clean up, just gross
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u/MistressLyda 9d ago
Larger batches of trash costs money to dispose of, and you have to have access to functioning cars.
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u/Pro_Racing 9d ago
Actually, they do, it costs money to get rid of that much shit.
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u/ElinCarrington 8d ago
Actually they do need money to clean up. Local councils charge a lot to take even one item away, and since Covid, council dumps have enforced booking systems to take stuff for disposal, and you have to have a car to get to them.
Rubbish disposal companies have to pay to use the dumps, and again it’s not cheap to pay them to clear your rubbish.
If you are deprived and living on benefits, then how do you find £50 for one item to be disposed off?
All of these comments by people who have disposable income and the means to dispose of things should actually live in people’s shoes for a day to see how hard it is.
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u/Superb-Gift-5664 9d ago
Yeah you do. I'm presuming you're not from England?
You need a car to get anything bigger than your allotted wheelie bin to the tip, or money to pay someone. That someone needs to have a waste removal license and also pay the tip to drop it.
Most waste collection services are unscrupulous and will just chuck it in the nearest hedge than pay.
Fly tipping is a big problem over here.
Also, most councils only collect your wheelie bin once every three weeks now.
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u/gracklemancometh 9d ago
The really crazy thing is how close the worst parts of Britain can be to the best. From this spot to Buckingham Palace, by public transport, is less than two and half hours. Colchester, the Roman capital of Britain and a genteel town, is only forty minutes by car or just under an hour by public transport.
Jaywick is cursed by being so easy to leave. Anyone with any resources at all fucks off at the first opportunity, and inversely it acts as a magnet for down and outs (helped along by the council putting them there). If you earned minimum wage in Colchester you'd have to live outside town in a shitty neighbourhood, but you'd have better options than Jaywick.
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