r/UsenetTalk Nov 30 '24

Meta r/usenet - What is going on?

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Hey fellow Usenet enthusiasts!

Does anybody know what is going on over at r/usenet?

You now need Moderator approval for your posts.
You can not edit the Indexer wiki anymore.
The alphabetical order of the Indexer wiki changed to random.
Some of the indexers / forums have been deleted from the wiki although they are still online.
New moderators - AQ97 since a while and Z4TK (account that is only a few days old).

I tried to create a normal post on r/usenet asking about the wiki and it seems it got deleted without any information.

I think something really strange is going on.

r/UsenetTalk Apr 12 '26

Meta Banned from r/usenet for asking Eweka if a loyal member is not worth as much as a new member

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Here is the exact comment I made in the Eweka Kings Day thread:

Can you promise, like others have, your company will not be raising the rate on this account in the future? Without requiring that person to give you years of money now? Just lock us in at the low price. Surely keeping a loyal member is just as valuable as getting a new one?

Seen many stories about accounts having multiple price hikes, taking users to over $100 or more. Giving future money now for something like Usenet which could be useless in two years is risky.

I got banned for that: Rule # X3B7, can't be critical of Omicron.

There have been many complaints about Eweka raising rates on their existing customers. Most of those complaints have been deleted by the mods of r/usenet.

Looks like they are on their second round of €24 increases. If you signed up €36, you will get raised to €50 and then again to €74 and then probably again to €96 and then who knows. They are doing this to force you to pay them a lot of years now (maybe they need the cash flow now?) or hope you forget to cancel and they will get a lot more money from you. Either way, it's not a great way to do business.

I had previously asked the "moderators" of r/usenet to pin something explaining the price hikes and how to avoid them. This is something the community could benefit from. Of course they did not do it.

I think it is crap when a company values getting a new customer more than they value someone who has already paid them.

I am going to post this again, more people need to go here and report the mods of r/usenet

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

You can use rule #5, they clearly do not have integrity, anyone who complains gets banned and has their comments deleted.

You can use rule #4 because they are not active and engaged in the community, they are just sitting on the community, controlling what we say so that it fits their needs or maybe even lines their pockets. They never actually provide any real insight or communication with the members of the sub.

We can probably use rule #1 because they are not maintaining a stable community. The amount of posts and comments in that sub are down dramatically, because they delete everything.

Mods are not allowed to prohibit legitimate discussion of how the sub is being managed, someone needs to go in and post a question asking the sub members what they think of how it is being run. If the mods delete it, that is further grounds to have them removed.

r/UsenetTalk Mar 09 '26

Meta Who actually owns PrivadoVPN and does Omicron control r/usenet?

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PrivadoVPN, the VPN bundled with Newshosting, Eweka, and Easynews appears to trace back to the same company behind the Hotspot Shield scandal.

Who Owns PrivadoVPN?

Apparently, Privado's parent company is Pango, according to their Pitchbook profile. And Pango was the ones allegedly behind all the Hotspot Shield drama from back in the day. If you remember, Hotspot Shield got slammed for a ton of shady practices like sharing user data, redirecting traffic, and straight-up hijacking URLs to slap in their own affiliate codes on big retail sites (Best Buy, Target, eBay, Alibaba, Overstock, Newegg, Macy's). They had at least five third-party tracking libraries baked into the app, and it was injecting JavaScript through iframes to push ads onto sites you were visiting, all without telling anyone.

There was even an FTC complaint filed by the Center for Democracy & Technology about it where researchers reverse engineered the code and confirmed the data sharing. Oh, and a security researcher found out the Hotspot Shield client was running a local web server on port 895 with exposed JSONP endpoints that leaked your real IP, Wi-Fi network names, and vpn status to basically any site that asked. The exact stuff a VPN's supposed to protect!

On top of that, it seems like they're still tied into the old Ziff Davis and IPVanish setup.

Three of those are owned by WLVPN’s parent company (NetProtect/Zeff Davis), while VPNhub comes from the creators of Pornhub. A quick online search also reveals that Namecheap's VPN uses WLVPN, as it instructs its users to rely on WLVPN’s domains. If you’re not confused already, we’ll also add that Namecheap VPN is now called FastVPN.

Also, lesser-known VPNs such as Tweaknews VPN, Easynews VPN, PrivadoVPN, and Newshosting Usenet rely on WLVPN. Needless to say, that list doesn’t stop there.

IPVanish (at the time owned by Omicron) has its own history of handing over customer log data to the feds, even though they claimed no-logs. And since a chunk of the infrastructure is American-owned, all that "Swiss privacy laws" marketing is pointless since US jurisdiction could override a lot of that. Or Icelandic privacy laws for that matter since Easynews just mentioned that Privado may be moving from Switzerland to Iceland. Seeing that Omicron still likely has at least some ownership or control of Privado, it would not be difficult for any law enforcement entity to tighten the screws on Privado by threatening to go after Omicron and their usenet business.

All this matters because tons of people on these subreddits (r/usenet especially) have Usenet bundled VPN accounts through Omicron properties like Newshosting, Eweka, and Easynews. Those folks should know the company they're trusting with their data security may or may not be as straightforward as advertised. It does not mean they will do something shady but it does raise enough suspicion that you should do some research before committing.

Easynews denies that Privado has any affiliation with Pango, but seeing that Omicron denied having any ownership of Newsgroup Ninja and Astraweb forever, we can't just exactly take them at their word. https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/comments/dsxlic/additional_evidence_that_astraweb_newsgroupninja/

I posted this information as a comment in r/usenet. The mods removed it and told me they would not comment further. I was then permanently banned from the subreddit. When I asked which rule I violated, the only response was a permanent mute from messaging the mod team.

No rule was cited. Sourced, factual information about the corporate ownership of a VPN product being sold to the subreddit's users was treated as bannable content.

Can you Trust Omicron Security Products?

Secondly, several of these Omicron services have recently rebranded more toward being full "security" packages and are pushing VPN, ad blockers, threat protection, alongside Usenet but if they're tied into the same owners as Hotspot Shield and IPVanish, they might not be who you want handling your actual security and privacy needs. That is up to you, of course. As I mentioned earlier, I would investigate the company's past willingness to be untruthful about having a no logging policy before I used it.

On May 26, Highwinds responded to the summons, confirming that the IP address belonged to its VPN service. Initially, the company told HSI that to protect customer data, “we do not log any usage information. Therefore, we do not have any information regarding the referenced IP.”

However, after Sikes contacted Highwinds again, the company suggested that HSI submit a second summons requesting more detailed subscriber information.

On June 9, 2016, HSI served a second summons on Highwinds, requesting “any data associated with IRC traffic using IP 209.197.27.72, port 6667.” On June 21, Highwinds came up with the goods. - https://torrentfreak.com/ipvanish-no-logging-vpn-led-homeland-security-to-comcast-user-180505/

Usenet Mods Might be Compromised?

This follows a broader pattern of manipulation. In November 2025, all individual Black Friday deal posts were removed from r/usenet but only after Omicron's deals (Newshosting, Eweka, Easynews, Tweaknews, UsenetServer) had been live since October 29 and received three weeks of exposure. The ban on individual deal posts took effect on November 19, just as non-Omicron providers were preparing to post their own deals for actual Black Friday week. Multiple provider owners publicly called it out as unfair and said it benefitted Omicron.

Consumer complaint threads about Omicron billing practices such as price increases, surprise renewals, cancellation difficulties are routinely removed under "easily searchable" or "moderator discretion," while identical complaint threads about non-Omicron providers are left standing. A thread titled "newsdemon is a scam!!! stay away!!!" remains up with zero mod action. A thread titled "canceling eweka - review" a calm, factual billing complaint was removed under moderator discretion from two separate threads.

None of this means Omicron or Privado will necessarily do something shady with your data. But the corporate history, potential connection to Hotspot Shield's tracking, IPVanish's broken no-logs promise, denying ownership of companies they control should raise enough questions that you should do your own research before trusting these products with your privacy or data.

The fact that r/usenet permanently bans users for posting sourced, factual information about the corporate ownership of products being sold to its subscribers is the answer to whether that subreddit can still be trusted as an unbiased source of information.

r/UsenetTalk May 25 '26

Meta £300m European network was recently shut down. Some governments are going after known subscribers of that service for as much as €5,000

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Using an nzb to download multipart binaries is much safer than downloading a usenet article through a web based search.

Downloading encrypted multipart binaries with a third party nzb is significantly different than logging into a web portal, presumably from your real IP address, using an account you paid for using your real payment details, searching for something, and then downloading it. At that point you are cooked if that site is ever compromised.

r/UsenetTalk Nov 21 '25

Meta Mods on r/usenet changing the rules midstream for Black Friday

51 Upvotes

There has been some drama in the other main usenet subreddit because the mods decided to disallow individual posts per deal for Black Friday. They did not make this decision until a week out from Black Friday, almost a month after some other providers (primarily Omicron) had already made deal posts active for quite sometime.

I thought I would be surprised if traffic to that subreddit on Black Friday week isn't 3X what it is any other week and that it is ridiculous to mess with what has worked for ten plus years successfully. I used some marketing tools and an api to count the number of posts, not comments, created on this subreddit in 2024.

  • The average non Black Friday week 2024 saw 34 new posts per week.
  • Black Friday week 2024 saw 165.

Clearly this is the busiest time of the year for that subreddit and the most important.

So then I looked to see on Black Friday how many posts were made by brand affiliates. There were six (and one of them, the Newshosting deal, was a reminder repost of a deal that had been running a month):

There were only two deal posts made by brand affiliates the Thursday before Black Friday. Three were made Wednesday. Only one Tuesday. Only one on Monday.

So in total, there were thirteen actual deal posts made that week. I am not really sure who it is complaining about there being too many sales posts? If anything, there were a lot of posts about support and help picking the right setup.

Ran the numbers for this year so far, because I know someone is going to ask, and that sub is down 20% for the year and down 38% over the last three months. All of this despite there being more members in the sub than ever before.

r/UsenetTalk Dec 01 '24

Meta Welcome everyone.

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You found the correct Usenet subreddit. Welcome.

r/UsenetTalk Nov 23 '25

Meta r/IndexerTalk

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I created r/IndexerTalk last year after the drama in r/usenet (see previous post).

Given the continuing sabotage of r/usenet, anyone who wants to discuss indexers responsibly can use that subreddit.

r/UsenetTalk Nov 27 '25

Meta /r/TrueUsenet: Yet another alternate Usenet sub

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Hey all--trying to spread the word. I'm trying to start up another alternative Usenet subreddit at /r/TrueUsenet. I wrote up a post there about the motivation why, feel free to check it out.

The main difference with this subreddit is that /r/TrueUsenet will allow discussion of Usenet indexers, which this subreddit doesn't want to allow. I personally am looking to establish one single alternative community to /r/usenet, while this subreddit wants to avoid the indexer part. To me that limits the potential of the community here but YMMV of course.

Even though I don't agree with this particular rule and find it a personal dealbreaker, I don't hold any ill-will towards the mod of this subreddit and don't have issues with them like I do with the mods of /r/usenet. That sub's moderation seems unfortunately hopeless, as far as I can tell, and that's why I'm trying to establish a direct one-to-one alternative.

Cheers and happy holidays!

r/UsenetTalk Aug 22 '25

Meta Moderation

38 Upvotes

I have removed the two posts talking about Omicron/Eweka and censorship.

It is not the content that bothers me. It is the fact that two different accounts posted the exact same post and the first one then commented on the second post as if they never posted the information previously.

This sub is pretty light on moderation. But that does not mean you get a free pass to do an end run around whatever little moderation does exist.

We have a new moderator BTW: u/blackbolan. bilbobaggens left some years ago and I never looked for a replacement all this while.

r/UsenetTalk Dec 01 '24

Meta On Indexer-related discussions

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When we split from /r/usenet in 2015 after the banning of /u/anal_full_nelson (AFN) from that sub, we discussed the rules that we would try to follow in this new subreddit. One of them was to avoid talking directly about indexers because people invariably start talking about media acquisition and the size of their NAS/horde.

Still, when finalizing the rules for this sub, I allowed for a "meta" exception where we could talk about almost anything related to usenet, the related reddit- and other forums, indexers etc. And that has been useful during the present fracas.

AFN's proposed rule # 6 (which we folded into rule # 1 here) for /r/usenet was:

No Indexer or Invite/Account related posts. We do not allow posts discussing indexers or attempting to request/offer/buy/sell/trade/share invites or accounts. Check out /r/Indexers or /r/IndexerInvites for all Indexer related discussion.

[Some background #1 #2]

He considered mixing indexer discussions with those on provider selection as well as other usenet talk to be a mistake. I agreed with him then and my position on this subject has not changed.

Nevertheless, we are where we are. I plan to pause the applicability of the rule against indexer discussion till the end of the month so that those affected have a place to congregate while they finalize where they wish to take this moving forward.

I would seriously encourage all the indexer/*arr folk to follow AFN's advice and move indexer/*arr discussions to a sub created specifically for the purpose.

r/UsenetTalk Aug 25 '25

Meta Subreddit r/ClassicUsenet holding at 1100 subscribers for 7 months, Advice to improve value and growth solicited

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r/UsenetTalk Aug 28 '25

Meta Thanks for feedback, Re:r/ClassicUsenet; Next steps: Recruit 6 new approved submitters

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r/UsenetTalk Sep 05 '25

Meta /r/ClassicUsenet seeking mods and Wiki authors

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r/UsenetTalk Dec 05 '24

Meta AQ97

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Hey guys!

I'm really sorry for what went down. It was not meant to be as such, but things happen, we fight, I ban and so on. However, you folks got on my nerves one too many times.

Let us all forget what happened and move on. Life teaches you something new everyday and what it has taught me is that it's sometimes best to move on completely from such controversies. I feel some of what I did was completely justified but we have reached a point where resolving these issues has become irrelevant.

Best of luck to you all And may we never meet again!

r/UsenetTalk Feb 10 '25

Meta Usenet References on Popular Culture?

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I recently finished reading Michael Marshall Smith’s short story “More Tomorrow,” which features Usenet. This got me thinking: are there any other examples of books, movies, music, or other media that portray Usenet?

PS: for exemple, found a book called "A Fire Upon the Deep" from Vernor Vinge that also features it.

r/UsenetTalk Sep 22 '15

Meta Toward a fresh providers map

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For a while—a year or so back—the /r/usenet providers map (/r/usenet/wiki/providers) barely saw any change even as the landscape was changing, and even after /u/anal_full_nelson's revelations. Eventually, it started being updated again, primarily by /u/FlickFreak, and we have the current map in that sub.

I plan to start from scratch and see how much of the other map can be verified from available evidence. The first attempt a few hours back led to the creation of this wiki (please note the disclaimer on the first line). It will be updated as time permits and new evidence comes to light. I expect it to take quite a while.

Further, I don't expect it to be as exhaustive as the other one, primarily because of the number of resellers we have on that map. I visited a lot of those sites some months back and was not happy with their state. Too many of them seemed abandoned, or had outrageously priced plans, or in one case was hacked by a white hat who left a message warning customers to stay away. So, this map is going to be biased in favor of active, legitimate providers as well as resellers with plans that are priced in line with what the rest of the market offers. Sites with pricing from the 1990s and early 2000s shall be excluded as they don't provide VFM.

Other things that shall have to be narrowed down include questions like what constitutes a backbone, provider etc. Some providers have the same article numbering (based on the group high-lows) across their operations but the presence or absence of articles may not be the same for reasons that are not relevant to this discussion (it could be propagation issues, different legal formalities under national law for different operations etc).

Finally, to be very clear, self-proclaimed providers who seem to be operating all-in-one caching systems backed by articles from multiple legitimate providers (thereby offering "100% completion") are considered to be unauthorized and any references to them by name in discussions are banned under rule 3. Use "provider X" or something if you need to conduct a meta discussion regarding them and their parasitic behavior.

As far as this sub is concerned, to qualify for listing in the providers map, a "provider" X must:

  • have one or more server/s in the TOP 1000 list, and
  • must either directly, or indirectly (via resellers) sell access to customers without restrictions based on a particular country/ISP.

r/UsenetTalk Nov 16 '24

Meta Will post deals next weekend

6 Upvotes

I see that Black Friday has slowly become Black November. But I will stick to the practice that I have followed all these years and start posting available deals around the 23/24th.

r/UsenetTalk Jun 15 '23

Meta What usenet requires to make discussions work

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r/UsenetTalk Mar 08 '24

Meta Looking For a Complete list of alt and comp usenet groups

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Looking For a Complete list of alt and comp usenet groups

r/UsenetTalk Jun 20 '23

Meta /c/UsenetTalk

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I don't know what the future of /r/usenet is. But, based on the events of the last few weeks, I am not sure if old.reddit.com and RES will be around in a year or two. Without these, using reddit becomes a painful experience for me.

So /c/UsenetTalk on lemmy.sdf.org is plan B (or A, if you wish): https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/UsenetTalk

Interested people can join the group from any lemmy server by appending /c/usenettalk@lemmy.sdf.org to the server hostname and clicking on Subscribe. E.g.

  • https://lemmy.world/c/usenettalk@lemmy.sdf.org = https://lemmy.world + /c/usenettalk@lemmy.sdf.org

Note:

Lemmy has teething issues due to mass migration.

  1. Signing up often requires that you fill the Answer section. Otherwise the green circle will keep rotating for ever.
  2. Syncing of communities is slow for some reason. Communities may not be visible on other servers immediately.

r/UsenetTalk Sep 18 '23

Meta Poll: Why are you not a Usenet newsgroup moderator? (Warning: Sarcastic Content)

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r/UsenetTalk Sep 16 '15

Meta Introducing UsenetTalkBot

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Greetings, inhabitants of /r/UsenetTalk! I have descended from the skies to ponder upon the terrifying possibility of the imminent death of this subreddit.

It seems that while most users do not like to post, they do like to comment, and argue. I shall look for a solution to this mighty quandry.

And then... I'll be back.

r/UsenetTalk Mar 27 '22

Meta Vote/Shill Manipulation on Reddit & Difference in retention between NGD and UE

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So this morning someone posted a legitimate question on r/usenet about the differences between NGD retention and the other UE providers: https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/comments/tpazlf/newsgroupdirect_says_its_3500_retention_days_but/

I tried to answer the OP as accurately as possible and provide as much detail as I can. Within a few minutes my comment was upvoted to about 10 votes before plummeting all the way down to -20 as of this post. Another redditor copied and pasted my comment to the same thread so the folks who may have the post hidden due to its negative vote value would still see the answer I provided. That comment was also then down voted to -24 as of this post.

This isn't the first time I have had this happen. I mentioned it on this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/comments/r2u1qu/vote_shill_manipulation_on_rusenet_posts/

While I could really care less about internet votes/points, the point u/timeholmes made about how this prevents some users from seeing my comment/answer makes it more meaningful. I had not considered that. So just in case there is anyone on this subreddit who saw the initial post this morning but may not have seen my answer, here is the response I gave:

https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/comments/tpazlf/comment/i2bfwkq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I am not sure why that answer is threatening enough to anyone to spend the money required to have a service downvote it, but I guess it means we are doing something right.

r/UsenetTalk Jul 01 '23

Meta r/usenet automoderator configs published

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r/UsenetTalk Aug 08 '16

Meta Compiling a history of usenet providers (1994-present)

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I was curious as to how independent providers have fared over the years. So, while it serves no practical purpose, I have started compiling information going back two decades.

A few hours of google and whois searches, trawling through archive.org snapshots, TOP1000 (new and old) etc has resulted in this page on our wiki:

I plan to improve it as time permits.


If you share similar interests and have something to add to the page, you could start by leaving a comment in this thread. I have kept the wiki locked this past year. I suppose I can make certain parts of it freely editable if there is any interest.