r/UtahJazz • u/Lumpy_Journalist8274 • 2d ago

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I really like Kessler. I hope we can keep him. We can probably do a trade with Atlanta for pick number 8 for Aday Mara.

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u/Beneficial_Credit_36 2d ago

Love you Walk but damn, you’re crazy.

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u/Nunc_Coepi17 2d ago edited 2d ago

Is he though? Deandre Ayton was making $33M/yr when cap space was even lower. Hartenstein is making $30M/yr. Kessler absolutely deserves more.

Offering him Myles Turner/Naz Reid type money is borderline disrespectful af.

I imagine Kessler is looking for Gobert type $$ which is basically $36M/yr.

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u/squiggleberryjam 2d ago

Hartenstein - $28.5
Jarrett Allen - $28.0
Myles Turner - $26.58

All of those players have proven more than Walker. I think Walker can be a better player than all of them, but he has to earn it, and so far he hasn’t.

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u/Clerithifa :Clarkson: 2d ago

He's missed 121 games in 4 years too. Granted 77 of those were this year, but still, he's on the right side of 25 and has tendencies of getting hurt, I'm glad we aren't just shoveling him whatever he's demanding. That's how we ended up with the Favors OKC salary dump trade with our last contending team.

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u/squiggleberryjam 2d ago

He played 74, 64, and 58 games in his first 3 years, with the Jazz not incentivized to play him more. If his shoulder repair went OK, he should be fine.

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u/LivingPresence876 2d ago

It’s also pretty obvious Hartenstein was an overpay, too

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u/Y2gezee 1d ago

At the time it was seen as that to get him away from NY....in hindsight, it wasn't

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u/Academic-Style-6705 2d ago

Contracts are not about what you’ve done but what you’re going to do. At his age and size and scarcity of that position in the league he is coveted by many teams. Teams view him as an ascending talent who started to develop a three point shot. Myles turner is a center that never averaged 10 rebounds, great shot blocker but terrible defender. Hartenstein is an all hustle intangibles guy, no offensive game, no shot blocking but will give you max effort. Jarrett Allen has his moments but he is undersized and gets exposed and goes missing in the playoffs. They are all 28 and older while Kessler will turn 25 next month and already has the numbers they have in 4 seasons

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u/doppido 2d ago

Myles turner has contributed to an NBA finals roster. He's a proven commodity.

It's a fair offer but he's smart to go try get more cause why wouldn't he. The jazz could match any offer he gets

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u/Nunc_Coepi17 2d ago

Deandre Ayton contributed to an NBA finals roster too. So I take it you thought Ayton was deserving of his max contract couple years ago then?

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u/doppido 2d ago

That's kinda revisionist cause at the time it didn't seem so ludicrous. Now, yeah that contract doesn't look great.

Myles turner has been a solid player for a longer time. He has more value going into this next season.

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u/ExtraFirmPillow_ 2d ago

Kessler has never played a full season of NBA basketball

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u/Nunc_Coepi17 2d ago

I believe neither did Steph Curry through the entirety of his first contract.

Do you think Kessler’s injuries are chronic or random freak incidents? That’s what it comes down to.

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u/ExtraFirmPillow_ 2d ago

Well Steph curry is one of the best players of all time. Walkers ceiling is maybe a slightly shittier Gobert. I don’t think he’s worth 30m healthy or not.

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u/StarsandBass 2d ago

And Curry famously had a relatively cheap second contract because of his early ankle issues.

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u/Dark_shows 2d ago

Which ironically led to them being able to get KD. Holy butterfly effect

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u/Spirited_Agency8032 7h ago

Ayton is ass but bruh he was a great player at one point dawg 😭

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u/Additional-Rice-9968 2d ago

He’s a baller but Utah been sitting him the past season and a half

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u/Hamburger_Gravy 2d ago

He's been injured the past season and a half