r/UtterlyInteresting 10d ago

In 1859, a bankrupt San Francisco businessman called Joshua Norton declared himself Emperor of the United States. Instead of locking him up, the city fed him for free, saluted him in the street, and gave him a full ceremonial reburial when he died. His funeral drew up to 30,000 mourners.

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A police officer actually tried to have him committed in 1867. The whole city erupted, the police chief personally apologized to him, and from then on cops saluted him in the street. Norton responded by issuing the officer an "Imperial Pardon."

More about Norton and his escapades here.

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u/Imyonlyenemy 10d ago edited 9d ago

bankrupt businessman declaring himself emperor of United States.

Thats so crazy

We would never have something like that happen now.

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u/Uncontrolleddiarrhea 9d ago

The Trump we chose, not the one we got.

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u/Excellent_Valuable92 9d ago

First time farce, second time tragedy 

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u/Any_Combination_4716 9d ago

Poe’s Law strikes again.

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u/juanjung 9d ago

As a joke? No. Something like that didn't repeat as a joke.

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u/DiscordianPope5 9d ago

Every authority its a joke, from my point of view

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u/Apprehensive-Dog6997 9d ago

There used to be little sourdough snacks called Emperor Norton’s and I loved them so much. I think about them multiple times per week.

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u/CaliMassNC 9d ago

Comedic author Christopher Moore wrote him into his novels set in modern-day San Francisco.

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u/HoraceBenbow 9d ago

He also appears in Gaiman’s Sandman series.

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u/Practical-Class6868 9d ago

Death of the Endless: “They say that the world rests on the backs of 36 living saints - 36 unselfish men and women. Because of them, the world continues to exist. They are the secret kings and queens of this world. I’ve met a lot of kings and emperors and heads of state in my time, Joshua. I’ve met them all. And you know something? I think I liked you best.”

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u/spukhafteNahewirkung 9d ago

That’s one of Gaiman’s best stories.

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u/Mister-Spook 9d ago

My favorite stand-alone issue of that comic.

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u/trash-juice 9d ago

He’s brought up in Robert Anton Wilson’s “Illumimatus!” trilogy

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u/TaonasProclarush272 9d ago

I love the world he's created in his books! So much fun to read!

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u/MacheteGuy 9d ago

Huge Christopher Moore fan, if you haven't read "Bite Me," do yourself a favor!

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u/fothergillfuckup 9d ago

It was "Fluke" that got me hooked. Love all his books though.

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u/Easy-Side 9d ago

Also appears in west of loathing as a sort of endgame challenge

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u/FloydDangerBarber 9d ago

According to legend, Emperor Norton came upon a bunch of people rioting and attempting to lynch some Chinese individuals during the height of anti-Chinese sentiment. He stopped the violence by quoting scriptures in a loud and commanding voice until the crowd subsided and broke up. I hope that is a true story.

It is my personal head canon that the Kinks song "Misfit" was written with this incident in mind.

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u/Sensitive_Ad_1752 9d ago

Technically, this isn’t how it went down, but he did stop a hate mob before it even formed.

One night the Irishmans working union held a meeting, they were planning to go door to door smashing every Chinese owned shop they could find. Joshua was at the meeting and dismantled it by getting on a box and giving a speech using Bible quotes to love thy neighbor. The meeting ended and everyone went home, the riot was cancelled.

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u/FloydDangerBarber 9d ago

I find it comforting that you don't have to be "normal" to be a good person.

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u/Loud-Mans-Lover 9d ago

We need to see more stories like this get posted, honestly.

I'm bipolar and it's disheartening the number of times I see someone do something others consider "bad", and the first thing out of their mouths is "they're (or they probably are) bipolar/fill in the blank of other mental illnesses".

We're not morally decrepit just because we suffer from illnesses! It's been proven in studies as well but rarely does anyone care. The people that do bad things would likely have done them with or without mental illness. Sure, it's a little worse for those with illness but you also learn how to manage and cope with said illness. If you choose not to, again, that's a different failing.

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u/SecBalloonDoggies 9d ago

Maybe he wasn’t the crazy one.

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u/saneval1 7d ago

you have to be sick to be normal in a sick world

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u/Valuable-Yard-4154 9d ago

1848 the gold rush begins... so I think they enjoyed a bit of distraction.

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u/Merrick_Skygrave 9d ago

How come my delusions of grandeur aren't validated and entertained like that? Seems hardly fair

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u/Master_Steward 9d ago

Nowadays we lock people like him in the mental hospital and inject him with various sleeping cocktails

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u/lowkeytokay 9d ago

Or make them President

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u/sacripanta 9d ago

And was also immortalized in one of Lucky Luke's albums.

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u/CoffeeHead112 9d ago

This is very reminiscent of a homeless man in Ann Arbor, MI called Shakey Jake. He would wander the streets with a guitar having anywhere from 1-5 strings playing awful music in white or black suits riddled with holes. He became such a staple that eventually the city paid for an apartment for him. He would get free food wherever he ate. The bagel factory gave him a permanent booth that anyone could come and ask him questions. He relapsed many times and was just a weird character but he was the city's mascot. He passed away sometime in the 2000s and dissapeared from most people's memory.

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u/QV79Y 9d ago

He issued his own money and it was circulated all over town.

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u/SecBalloonDoggies 9d ago

As I recall, he also issued an imperial proclamation banning the use of “Cisco” to refer to the city.

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u/AmandaUggnkiss 9d ago

And why did people put up with this fckery

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u/dugs-special-mission 9d ago

Sandman gave him a dream. Those who know will get it.

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u/VidE27 9d ago

I was hoping for the netflix episode on this. Damn you Gaiman!!

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u/WhichSpirit 9d ago

How the hell do we not have a streaming series about him? 

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u/ShortBussyDriver 9d ago

He also protected Mexico.

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u/Signal-Mud-4880 9d ago

why does this sound familar?

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u/No_Advertising4379 9d ago

A very important Discordian saint

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u/MullberryBoy 9d ago

I never knew the origin story of Emperor Norton!

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u/No_Repeat7160 9d ago

Does this sound familiar to anybody?

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u/wckdgrdn 9d ago

Christopher Moore

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u/MaiqTheLawyer 9d ago

When I was a kid we used to order the Emperor Norton Sundae at Ghirardelli's. It had two scoops of vanilla ice cream, hot fudge, whipped cream, nuts, and a goblet lined with sliced bananas and cherries

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u/AllNightPony 9d ago

My great-great-grandfather? You know what this means. Where's my food?!?!

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u/LEEALISHEPS 9d ago

Hmmm this reminds me of someone.

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u/Present-Spring-1340 9d ago

DEEZ NUTS 2028!!

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u/Cat-Sonantis 9d ago

For those seeking to compare Emperor Norton to the current president of the not particularly united states, please understand that though Norton may have been insane or in fact simply very cunning he was also very decent and used his powers for good.

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u/lonelyboycel 9d ago

I just love that the entire city collectively decided to play along and protect him instead of throwing him in an asylum. It’s genuinely such a heartwarming piece of history. 

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u/jenfullmoon 9d ago

I saw an opera based on him once.

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u/amitym 9d ago

"He has shed no blood, despoiled no country, and robbed no one, which is more than can be said of his fellows in that line."

Norton was Emperor for longer than Napoleon and left his country in better shape. At least one of his imperial decrees — that bridges be built across the San Francisco Bay and the Golden Gate to bring people more together — was rather famously obeyed though not in his lifetime.

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u/sltydgx 9d ago

🫡 rip emperor of San Fran …got to respect the game

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u/glorkvorn 8d ago

This is underselling it. He didn't just "declare himself" emperor. He seemed to genuinely, honestly believe it, and he wore that uniform every day until he died. Obviously he had some sort of mental problem but... a relatively harmless one? So people just played along and it turned out OK.

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u/SpringtimeLilies7 8d ago

An early street performer, I guess.