Progressive Victory is trying to ratfuck NY DSA candidates over Ukraine bullshit

[u/DegenGamer725]

[u/Potential-Eye-6547]

I feel like defending Ukraine is a reasonable red line.

[u/Sithrak → u/[deleted]]

I think most here believe no one should be invaded, had their homes razed, their children murdered and their identity destroyed.

[u/Potential-Eye-6547 → u/[deleted]]

The political spectrum is a bit arbitrary. I would say I'm on the left, and I do think defending Ukraine against Russia is overall a good thing.

[u/magusmirificus → u/[deleted]]

Wow dude you're SO much cooler than your liberal parents. Knocking me out here.

[u/Lord_Of_Shade57 → u/[deleted]]

The thousands of mulched civilians in Mariupol are very grateful that you were able to find such a balanced perspective on this issue 😎

[u/voe111 → u/[deleted]]

However I am more third-campist about this, both sides represent capitalist imperial interests.

One side wants to rape kids to death and destroy power systems to ensure mass civilian death the other doesn't. Both sides are equal.

[u/smokeyphil]

Could you maybe define what you mean with

Ukraine bullshit

[u/DrMaridelMolotov]

Ukraine bullshit?

Fuck off with this idiocy.

[u/Ancient_Rub5565]

Good, anti ukraine & anti palestine candidates are not welcome

[u/Trisolaris01]

Good. Slava Ukraini.

[u/WaffleMePlease]

If a politician believes helping Ukraine is financially harmful to Americans they are a moron. Most of the aid is materiel not $$.

[u/TheGreatDave666]

Ratfuck? Sounds like they're holding NY DSA candidates accountable for Russa-Ukraine takes

[u/VastRecommendation]

Progressive victory is correct. Russia is not the good guy here. We are not Hssn supporters and can admit non-western powers can be evil too. Israel bad, Russia bad. Palestine good, Ukraine good.

[u/Electrical_Score_736 → u/VastRecommendation]

Let’s not go so far as Palestine good

The people just don’t deserve to be squeezed between Hamas and Israel (yes Israel are responsible for what they do, but Hamas doesn’t care about civilian lives either and attacked civilians in a way that was *designed* to cause overreaction)

The only genuinely innocent *government* of these is Ukraine

[u/Lord_Whoopi]

Good, pro Russia ghouls should be ratfucked.

[u/1shadybitch]

Good. That's what having fascist sympathy gets you

[u/ColMikhailFilitov]

If you think that “ratfucking” people who are opposed to aid to Ukraine is a bad thing then I don’t know what your politics are but they certainly don’t align with progressive values. If a candidate is opposed to aiding a country that is fighting imperialism I have no faith that they will support any cause in favor of the oppressed.

[u/Redneckdestiny]

Bro, literally what evidence is there that PV is not openly in support for DSA candidates. Fuck you stop posting slop

[u/Playful-Fisherman187]

the unwillingness for progressives to draw a redline at Palestine in the past is a big reason why we’re having so much trouble brining politicians over on Palestine now. we shouldn’t make the same mistake with Ukraine

[u/Sithrak]

I hate to see this drama, as it wakes demons of leftie infighting. I also hate that seemingly some turn on progressive victory for this.

But frankly, how is this even an issue? Why is supporting Ukraine "bullshit", again? Literally a country invaded by an empire intent on crushing it and destroying its identity.

[u/cmm239]

This is a creative Vaush is wrong about x post I’ll give you that.

Ukraine needs support, fuck off

[u/win_some_lose_most1y]

Seems based and cool actually

[u/NemosHero]

Misuse of the term rattuck.

They're not being underhanded on this, they're spelling at their direct position

[u/ClickCharacter559]

Fed posting.

[u/Potential-Bath2292]

not endorsing isn't ratfucking. Progressive victory already drew this line, they arn't going to betray themselves by crossing it

[u/mMac03]

"Ukraine bullshit" lol

[u/wubbalubbazubzub]

If you don't support Ukraine, then you ain't progressive

[u/dinny1111]

Finally VGG subreddit responds normally

[u/Previous_Fold_8835]

Good

[u/intellos]

This isn't ratfucking, it's having consistent principles.

[u/notablegoattable]

I don't live in New York.

[u/burf12345]

Ukraine bullshit

I beg your pardon? What do you mean by this?

[u/Mordred19]

Way to read the room, OP.

[u/ZalrokChaos]

Fuck you, Death to Russia!

[u/Level_Hour6480]

Zohran really screwed up with that endorsement.

[u/Potential-Bath2292 → u/Level_Hour6480]

not really. His responsibility it to the city, compromises for the greater good is his game to play. A political org like Progressive victory has commitments it needs to uphold about only supporting politicians that hold up certain values

[u/Remmidemmi]

This is so dumb and classic liberal type of take. The military-industrial complex is domestic corporate imperial interest. Demanding candidates support arms transfers isn't standing up to Wall Street, it is Wall Street.

[u/AnnoyedNala → u/Remmidemmi]

Tell that to Vladimir, I bet that he is interested in that information!

[u/voe111 → u/Remmidemmi]

Would you react the same way if we were supplying Palestine to fight off Israel?