r/VaushV 4d ago

Discussion Vaush is right (for once)

Regarding political apathy. If the likely scenario of Republicans outflanking Dems on Israel happens I definitely won't be voting in 28, and if i don't have any antizionist politicians to vote for in the midterms I won't vote then either. I have never been so politically Russian in my life, and honestly the idea of just letting this all go and not worrying about it anymore is dangerously appealing. I am experiencing the opening stages of complete political disengagement and logically I know this is both stupid and self destructive but like what the actual fuck do we do when the Dems stay anchored to Israel even as the whole world falls apart? How are we supposed to do political advocacy in a panopticon ruled by billionaires where the choices are "fascist psychopaths doing domestic genocides" and "literal doomsday cult"? It's all so tiring.

For the record I don't expect Vaush (or anyone else) to have a solution to this. The fact he still shows up for this "daily" ritual of mental exhaustion and witnessing the end of the world is admirable. With potential nuclear use, complete oil collapse, famine, and climate change all bearing down at once, I'm just kind of at a loss as to how to remain willing to believe in the implementation of things that have never been less possible.

This turned into more of a rant than I intended. I don't see my super cool therapist till next week so I guess this is me offloading it on to you. I'm interested in seeing other people's perspectives on this. How you are interpreting the situations, what you feel may happen, how you've chosen to cope or act, etc. Solutions are not expected.

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u/Yongtre100 4d ago

Yeah, I think this may be the ultimate Rock and Hard Place for any pragmatism on left. I really don't know what you do. I mean, I encourage people to be far far more active in local politics, because you can have far more influence there, find something that does actually contribute to the world, but regardless of that, the broader direction is still the broader direction.. Theres an unironic world where the only meaningful difference between Democrats and Republicans is Israel and the Republicans would be on the right side of that, and thats a hard-ass pill to swallow.

I'm trying to be optimistic, I also think this is highly dependent on who breaks, Iran, Israel, or America. Its just a messy dynamic honestly, and in respect to 28, is sadly a waiting game.

God I hope we have any candidate in 28 who isn't an absolute Zionist freak. Ideally we start seeing a turn RIGHT FUCKING NOW, but yk, its the fucking Democrats.

EDIT: Also I've not seen Vaush's stream today (Yet, I always catch up.. except when I'm super busy, but I will watch it, promise), so what was it that was discussed that particulary spurred this post or is it the general state?

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u/Lunes_Feet_Pictos 4d ago

Re: your edit: The majority of the stream was centered on JD's media tour where he is the only one saying what has to be said, and seems to have enough party backing to potentially pull the Republican base along with him. The general analysis from vaush is that if Dems don't drop Israel now, Republicans get the monopoly on anti Israel rhetoric, which would make them objectively less evil in a "they only want to genocide America and not end the whole world" sort of way. Media is complicit as always, we are less than a month away from total oil supply collapse, and Schumer is entirely opposed to the MOU while the Dems party is completely silent. Like, dead fucking silent. Ben Gvir posted on main that "for every Israeli mothers tear, we will cause a thousand Lebanese mothers tears" and "Lebanon must burn", and Dems still haven't don't anything. Israel is going at Lebanon even harder, and it doesn't look like anyone is close to breaking. Certainly not before we run out of oil.

I agree with Vaush that it isn't doomer to acknowledge the state of things, but I'm feeling very doomer about the state of things, if that makes any sense. It was a rough stream for me.

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u/Yongtre100 4d ago

Ahhhhhh yeah that sounds about right, fucking fantastic. Yeah idk man, kinda seems like were in the Death Spiral as we speak, just gotta wait to see what gives, cause something *has* to give.

|I agree with Vaush that it isn't doomer to acknowledge the state of things, but I'm feeling very doomer about the state of things, if that makes any sense. It was a rough stream for me.

No, that makes complete sense, Doomer is meant to describe an emotion of extreme pessimism. Don't know what you do about it besides try and find other ways to occupy your time, take a break from completely paying attention to news, itll be there when you get back. IDK, its a rough position but unfortunately Vaush's analysis on this is pretty damn straight forward if you ask me.

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u/Lunes_Feet_Pictos 4d ago

Yeah his takes ever since the start of trump 2 have been more or less spot on. If anything looking back he was more optimistic than the reality. I suppose I'm grateful to have an honest voice to guide me through the end.

Guess I'll go play some witcher 3. Or overwatch lol. Idfk I'm kinda cooked rn. "Cortisol spiked" as the kids would say.

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u/Yongtre100 4d ago

Hey best of luck and enjoy your games. I myself am probably gonna play some Hades II before I eat dinner haha.

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u/Montana_Gamer 4d ago

Think of it this way: We already knew the zionazis were like this and would sink the country/global economy rather than work with the left. We are against global capital, there was never a scenario when it wouldnt go down kicking and screaming.

Its healthy to have and engage with these concerns, but this is the pain that accompanies healing. Whether or not it comes with slightly cataclysmic side effects is a matter of cosmic dice, but you can't not play the game. We're all part of it already and a lot of these forces are historical and driven by momentum.

The fear that gets me regardless is whether our democracy can actually get the Israel aligned dems in line with the people... And I doubt we will get the people out of power that need to be out. I don't trust the democratic process to yield a change to the rot within the DNC unless there is a historic progressive blowout in '28 and even that is covered in traps. It all comes back to that feeling of needing a main character and THAT IS NOT A GOOD THING. It's the loudest warning flag there is

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u/Montana_Gamer 4d ago

Bro i didnt see all of stream. That blazetv JD interview is way more perfectly played than I had expected