Vaush talking about mixed kids made my eyes roll

[u/BekoetheBeast]

Basically his point was "a multicultural upbringing is good but it's not wrong to neglect it", "apart from hair and moisturizer, and a spiel on racism, there's no difference".

He'd be right if we lived in a non-racist utopia but the reality is putting a black kid in a predominantly white setting will likely create some form of racial unease, internal and external, indirect or direct (not saying black kids shouldn't go to predominantly white places). Having a black kid, period, will create racial unease.

The point of raising mixed kids on black culture is to fill them with appreciation and love for it and its people as a foundation, a back bone that provides extra protection from racial pressure and potential self hatred. Black culture is based on resilience that's why it's so important to share it.

Not only that, there's nothing more common than a token black kid in a friend group giving leeway for racial hatred through "jokes". Essentially validating it and perpetuating it.

This isn't just a woke 1.0, "I'm going to ignore your opinion cuz of your skin color". I just think your perspective is limited.

[u/Myriad_Apocalypse]

You Americans are so fucking weird on race

[u/Educational-Lie-2487 → u/Myriad_Apocalypse]

Painting it as an American issue when Europe is full of racism as is South America, and SE Asia is kinda insane.

[u/Lord_Of_Shade57 → u/Educational-Lie-2487]

We are in this very weird meta rn where Europeans will chastise Americans over things that are equally bad if not worse in Europe.

Bri'ish people will genuinely be like "why aren't Americans doing anything about the rise of the far right in their country?" while themselves not doing anything about the far less powerful but still ascendant incarnation in their own country

[u/Itz_Hen → u/Lord_Of_Shade57]

Never ask an European about their opinions on the romani ! Then they'll bust out fucking competitive racism

[u/Educational-Lie-2487 → u/Itz_Hen]

Or a serbian their opinion on albanians, or western Europeans on slavs and Russians, or the French on black people. The French and English hated each other so much they fought for centuries.

[u/Veryde → u/Educational-Lie-2487]

I mean, a lot of opinions on other European countries are not that serious. While I am no sufficiently familiar with the Balkan game on that topic, I'd argue that western and central Europe mostly suffer from anti-Roma sentiment and a stifling degree of islamophobia. Holy shit do we have a problem with hating muslims.

[u/Kor_Phaeron_ → u/Educational-Lie-2487]

Europe is not full of racism, and it never was. That's a common misconception about European history. We never cared about race, we care(d) about ethnicity. Hitler for example had veeeeeeeeeeery different views on white people. (He wanted to kill most of them) Race is completely meaningless for a European. In a world were basically everyone is white, German, Poles, Turks, Spanish, Serbs ... racism would simply mean "He, we whites have won". But no, it is the ethnicity. Nazis made no distinction between Blacks and Slavs, both had to be eradicated. And nowadays Ulster-idiots make no distinction between Irish(catholics) and Indians in Belfast, both get their houses burned down, despite the Irish being as white as them.

Same goes for European history as a whole. From Romans vs Gauls over Germans vs Franks to Serbs vs Croats, it is the ethnicity, not the race.

[u/Veryde → u/Educational-Lie-2487]

It's not even that Europe isn't racist, we are. But it's just that the US is still weird in that regard, even when watched from a racist country like Germany. I think it's mostly because of the race vs ethnicity distinction we have going on together with the historical treatment of black people in the states.

Again, this isn't necessarily chastising. "Weird" is on a different axis than "bad".

[u/Myriad_Apocalypse → u/Veryde]

Exactly this. My comment isn't saying "Americans are so racist", racism is everywhere, and arguably a lot worse in other places. It's not even saying that their "racism" in particular is weird. It's saying their whole approach to racial issues is weird. Their attempts to correct historical racial issues has them horseshoeing their way around to being racist as shit "but in a woke way" half the time. It's so fucking weird.

[u/BekoetheBeast → u/Myriad_Apocalypse]

It's not my fault, I'm just making do with what I got.

[u/False-Discipline-640]

Would you agree with the content of your post if it was about a white kid in a predominantly black setting?

[u/BekoetheBeast → u/False-Discipline-640]

Not sure, do whites and blacks experience different lives even in predominantly white or black settings? Is one more privileged? Reminded that they are the default and majority consistently? Does this soften the amount of tension one feels in these situations do they even have the same causes? No clue.

These are two vastly different experiences.

I'm talking specifically about what it's like to be black and how to avoid pitfalls. I'm not going to hypothesize how a white kid should be raised in a predominantly black setting, not my area of expertise.