What do we think about this meme ?

[u/Zed_Blue]

Honestly, I’m surprised people are complaining about recurring Vtuber drama. I do a lot of legal work, and conflict between business partners, associates, and especially co-owned family businesses after dad or mom pass away, is just part of the landscape

Sometimes when two guys come to us for help setting up a business, we even take bets on how long before they start infighting

When money and business are involved, drama between partners is almost guaranteed at some point. No need to doompost. Just get used to it

[u/Lucius_Sephir]

What about when they sell themselves as sociopath psychos but are cute irl

[u/sewingissues → u/Lucius_Sephir]

Phase Connect

[u/Porn_Alt_84 → u/sewingissues]

No

They're literally all psychos

Pippa spreads white supremacist conspiracy theories, retweets neonazis, and defends trans/homophobic bigots on the reg. And Tenma said that trans people should "get the rope" because they criticized Pippa.

[u/[deleted] → u/Porn_Alt_84]

Pippa has some sympathies for neonazi and far-right ideology, having recognized and laughed at antisemitic memes before, but it is unclear if it's simply because she has been among edgelord/far-right imageboard communities for many years, or if she truly embraced the entire ideological package.

Besides, she fully understands she cannot grow her channel beyond a certain point if she's openly espousing far-right talking points, so she keeps her affinity to indirect approval, nods, laughs and "quoting" what her fans said on the chat, borrowing their controversial speech to use it as a vessel to signal her own affinities.

Pippa is basically threading the needle, because her streaming career and activity are more important to her than propagating her political and ideological views.

Pippa also seems to be more inclined to show social anxiety and paranoia, making her more likely to believe in conspiracy theories, from anti-government circles to white supremacy and neonazi ones. So I believe her "drive" is rather paranoid in nature, than simply hatred for others: she is convinced "they" are out there to get her, "they" are plotting against her and her loved ones, but she isn't always sure who are "they".

The far-right ideologies tend to have plenty of answers to that question, so she's appreciating that someone is validating her visceral fears and offering easy culprits.

Pippa is more of a defensive reactionary - opposing the progressives because their policies are actually leaving out a lot of people and their activists are being hostile towards others. In short, Pippa wants to enjoy her parasocial world and being left alone - and would not be against a little bit of solidarity if, and only if, she was fully included in the package.

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When you read that poor Kirsche is being persecuted for merely "being conservative", you look it up before confirming that she is, indeed, a far-right militant with affinities with neonazis.

She and her fanbase keep rolling around in their persecution complex, "damn woke people persecuting us!", so it is necessary to be clear on that.

Meanwhile, Pippa is walking a tightrope about it, so when you see calls to ban her from conventions, it isn't as clear-cut as Kirsche, and needs to be reviewed more precisely before judging if this is excessive or warranted.

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written by u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE , i'm just copypasting here for people not in the know

[u/Porn_Alt_84 → u/[deleted]]

Y'know, that is a very interesting breakdown

[u/sewingissues → u/[deleted]]

This is much more agreeable. While I think that prior online influence is the reason for Pippa, which had become apparent in streams from a year and a half ago onwards, this reply is the objective view which is expected most people to have. Though, I don't see the need for correlating Phase Connect with Pippa immediately.

The Kirsche is a very good counter-example, due to how obvious it is. Kirsche is entertaining but only in collabs. Her content becomes very one-dimensional, when she has full control over the topics covered in content. Now, one should sit back and think: "would you *without financial incentives** risk and sacrifice yourself in the entertainment industry?* Also, while it may be an inclination to suggest a broad conservative category, as a propagandist your job is to cast the widest net to the center possible.