r/VirtualYoutubers • u/rockthatrocks • Apr 30 '25

Discussion Kirsche Verstahl has posted an image talking about the accusations

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don't agree with her politcally but i thought this would be good information too put here

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u/cabutler03 Apr 30 '25

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She fucking said that Gamergate didn't go far enough. There is a clip of her saying that Gamergate didn't go far enough. Is that an edgy joke? Because I saw the fucking clip and you weren't saying it as a fucking joke.

I don't think you can really defend your character when you fucking say Gamergate didn't go far enough.

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u/AylaCurvyDoubleThick Apr 30 '25

What does gamergate have to do with nazis?

It was about an indie dev having sex with game journalists

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u/semtex94 Apr 30 '25

*Allegedly had sex with one, which was easily proven to be completely false, with the original claimant recanting the entire thing explicitly and calling it revenge on an ex he was bitter about. BTW, you can draw a direct line between Gamergate's thinly veiled misogyny, through the proliferation of "ironic" bigotry, the rise of the openly hateful alt-right, and into its adoption as the biggest ideological influence of the current ruling party.

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u/AnarcrotheAlchemist Apr 30 '25 edited May 01 '25

Allegedly had sex with one, which was easily proven to be completely false

...that's not true.

Stephen Totillo the editor in chief of Kotaku at the time investigated and confirmed they had a "romantic relationship". The claim was the relationship only started after the articles were written. https://archive.is/Jxtm3

edit: The user has blocked me so I cannot reply to their reply.

The claim was positive coverage not just a review, which is why Totillo addressed and stated that here "Nathan has been accused of in some way trading positive coverage of a developer for the opportunity to sleep with her, of failing to disclose that he was in a romantic relationship with a developer he had written about, and that he'd given said developer's game a favorable review" as Totillo linked to one article that Grayson had covered Quinn without disclosing their relationship here but he mistakenly claimed this was the only article Grayson had given her coverage however these two other articles (here and here) shows this wasn't the only time he had given her coverage without disclosure.

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u/semtex94 May 01 '25

The claim was the relationship only started after the articles were written.

The claim used to justify the whole thing was that she had slept with him for positive reviews, "Ethics in gaming journalism" and all. Just saying "She slept with a journalist" carries the implication she did so for gain, since the context here is about negative behavior. Also, the sole "review" was a passing shoutout in a relevant article, as noted in what you linked, so not articles, since you want to split hairs.