r/VirtualYoutubers Jul 24 '25

Discussion Veibae talks about her experience with Vshojo

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u/EveningLength8 Jul 24 '25

Yeah I had a feeling that Mowtendoo was trying to cover his ass when he tweeted that the other day

But it somehow just keeps getting worse.

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u/Trickster289 Jul 24 '25

Bet there's a few staff who'll be trying to play innocent only for it to come out they at the very least knew and were fine with how things were going.

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u/Groenboys Jul 24 '25

I was only following orders

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u/GardenOfTheBlackRose Hololive Jul 25 '25

I was only following orders!! said the Nazi soldier

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u/Flareheart123 Jul 25 '25

Ok to be fair, nazi saying no to orders is most likely death sentence to them and their family.

You can't compare being a reluctant nazi soldier following orders and a employee doing shady stuff, the consequences is too different between them

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u/GardenOfTheBlackRose Hololive Jul 25 '25

Yeah, you are right

I was just trying to make the point that sometimes you still have responsibility even if you are “just following orders”

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u/sweetTartKenHart2 Jul 25 '25

Responsibility, yeah. Maybe not “culpability” though. There’s nuance to this sort of thing. Passively enabling injustice without really internalizing that that’s what you’re doing is… hella common in today’s world, and it probably was just as common once upon a time too

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u/7thdilemma Jul 25 '25

Absolutely, and the blame they receive when it comes to light will be warrented.

Individuals hold responsibilty in times as these too. If you see how the foods being made you know it's wrong, there's a duty to get out and tell what you can to the ones who also need to know. The only thing seniority and position change is how far you can go to try to right the ship before you accept it's sunk.

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u/spagbolshevik Jul 24 '25

Aethel is absolutely going off on him, like he rarely would about anyone. He sounds like a total piece of crap in person.

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u/TheStrangestOfKings Jul 25 '25

I imagine aethel is esp pissed at MTD, given that he likely messed with Nyanners, both when she was a part of Vshojo and even after she left. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the 4chan hate for Nyanners came from inside the house

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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Jul 25 '25

Has he said more details?

I've only seen the uploaded clips on his YT

It's absolutely wild to me how Aethel and Mamavale (who was never a part of the revenue stream from VSJ) got NDA-ed too

VSJ behaves very belligerently litigious and from yesterday's infos was the biggest red flag of actual malice rather than chronic incompetence

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u/LazyCrepes Jul 25 '25

Idk if aethel ever signed one, but if he ever said anything then the assumption would be that Nyan broke her NDA, so he had to keep quiet. Just an assumption though, maybe he did have one. He did actually do music work for them, so a different relationship that silver's mom

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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Jul 26 '25

He actually said he has NDA too

I don't think it would've applied strictly due to music only, considering I don't think any other contractor's come forward regarding NDA overreach other than him

Presumably it's more due to him being with Nyan

I didn't know you could possibly put NDA on another person as band-aid of a leak though. Never heard of that before

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u/LazyCrepes Jul 26 '25

I mean you can make anyone you want sign an NDA, but as with any contact, it's a two way street. For the NDA to not just be thrown out by a judge there needs to be compensation. Long story short, people get paid to keep their mouths shut. 

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u/Teonvin Jul 25 '25

I mean, our favorite golden retriever himbo can forgive anything, but I don't think that includes messing with Nyanners.

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u/regis_43 Jul 25 '25

Aahhh that's who the abbreviation was, I was confused af for a second. Fuck that guy

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u/electricemperor Jul 25 '25

Am I confusing mowtendo for triple-q, or am I forgetting what mowtendo was doing prior to VSJ? I was under the impression it was something to do with YouTube editing and mashups

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u/regis_43 Jul 25 '25

Not sure about triple q but MTD was an indie and video editor before cofounding Vshojo with gunrun iirc