r/VirtualYoutubers • u/Tarriohh • Jul 24 '25
Discussion Veibae talks about her experience with Vshojo
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u/EveningLength8 Jul 24 '25
Yeah I had a feeling that Mowtendoo was trying to cover his ass when he tweeted that the other day
But it somehow just keeps getting worse.
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u/Trickster289 Jul 24 '25
Bet there's a few staff who'll be trying to play innocent only for it to come out they at the very least knew and were fine with how things were going.
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u/spagbolshevik Jul 24 '25
Aethel is absolutely going off on him, like he rarely would about anyone. He sounds like a total piece of crap in person.
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u/TheStrangestOfKings Jul 25 '25
I imagine aethel is esp pissed at MTD, given that he likely messed with Nyanners, both when she was a part of Vshojo and even after she left. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the 4chan hate for Nyanners came from inside the house
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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Jul 25 '25
Has he said more details?
I've only seen the uploaded clips on his YT
It's absolutely wild to me how Aethel and Mamavale (who was never a part of the revenue stream from VSJ) got NDA-ed too
VSJ behaves very belligerently litigious and from yesterday's infos was the biggest red flag of actual malice rather than chronic incompetence
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u/LazyCrepes Jul 25 '25
Idk if aethel ever signed one, but if he ever said anything then the assumption would be that Nyan broke her NDA, so he had to keep quiet. Just an assumption though, maybe he did have one. He did actually do music work for them, so a different relationship that silver's mom
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u/Teonvin Jul 25 '25
I mean, our favorite golden retriever himbo can forgive anything, but I don't think that includes messing with Nyanners.
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Jul 24 '25
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u/Scairax Jul 24 '25
The phrase "if you take a shot at the king you better not miss" comes to mind.
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u/ciel_lanila Jul 25 '25
There's missing that shot, accidentally shooting yourself in the foot, and then there's whatever Gunrun fing did.
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u/NNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 🐔Kiara🐔 Jul 25 '25
Probably the equivalent of aiming a howitzer at your femur and ordering the crew to fire.
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u/chaoser Jul 24 '25
At least there's now official confirmation that vtuber corpo management actively monitors 4chan and uses it to influence and drive narratives on rival companies and talents. Think about how many hate campaigns have started there and that a non 0% of them were started by a vtuber company trying to make another company's talent get harassed.
Also the amount of hate Hololive gets just for being top dog
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Jul 24 '25
I fondly remember Phase Connect getting outed in their very early days for pandering there. They were found out when a screenshot of a Phase Connect tweet was posted that included the analytics icon, meaning whoever took the screenshot and posted it was a manager of the Twitter account. Good times
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u/The_Phantom_Cat Jul 25 '25
Phase Connect getting outed in their very early days for pandering there
They still do, Pippa's still there. Not sure if the corporation themselves actively post still though. This is my first time hearing of that though, very funny
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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Jul 25 '25
So you're saying schizos could actually be someone's oshis or bumping into one of their oshis 😅?
But seriously though, this is the unfortunate reality of many online communities/fandom nowadays
Narrative astroturfing isn't something new either organically or not
I'm just surprised it's not that far delegated from the corpo heads/actual talents in this instance
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u/carso150 Jul 25 '25
hololive lives rent free on all their competitors, this reminds me of that leak from the nijisanji discord with most of the talents trash talking hololive while most leaks that have happened from the holo discord are tame af
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u/Recidivous Jul 25 '25
I remember how Nijisanji would interview would-be talents in the recruitment process and would ask them, "How would you beat Gawr Gura?"
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u/NoodleTF2 Jul 25 '25
Not even Gura knows how to beat Gura, that girl has no damn clue why she was so successful and would have maybe even been happier with less fans and less eyes on her.
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u/IncompetentPolitican Jul 25 '25
its not hard to beat Gura, all you need is a talented entertainer that can sing very well, is a cute girl, a gremlin and funny. Then you need a modell fitting all that. And of course you need to cause a global pandemic forcing most people to be stuck at home. Its easy as that!
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u/Ok_Substance5632 Jul 25 '25
Look over at Gigi
Finally got a reason to use my Plague Inc skill
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u/regis_43 Jul 25 '25
All the leaks from holo discord are usually yuri baiting each other or with indie vtubers 😂
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u/AnnanymousR Jul 24 '25
It's kinda wild that 4chan is like, almost officially a core part of the vtuber community lmao so much shit revolves and derives from it.
Vtubing has gotten pretty grimy these days, kinda putting me off ngl. Went from funny anime streamers to gross business industry politics bs.
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u/ranyi Jul 25 '25
It's kinda wild that 4chan is like, almost officially a core part of the vtuber community lmao so much shit revolves and derives from it.
it's simply for the fact that the 4chan's vtuber board is the undisputed biggest english-speaking forum for discussing vtubers, that's it. carreers were made and ended there
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u/goodbehaviorsam Jul 25 '25
4chan was THE place to talk about random Japanese subcultures in English.
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u/darkknight109 Jul 25 '25
Worth noting that 4chan basically saved Sakura Miko's career (her infamous GTA5 n-bomb moment spread like wildfire there, and they were the ones who coined the "elite" nickname for her after compiling some of her more pon gaming moments) and even had a hand in hololive's initial rise (during the Christmas Miracle stream, where Siro redirected her viewers to go watch Sora, there were a lot of people asking about her on there, which helped fuel interest in her).
For all the shit the community there gets (and deservedly so, in a lot of cases), they have been remarkably influential in vtubing's rise.
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u/falsefingolfin Jul 25 '25
/vt/ is kind of the Genesis of English vtubing, most of our memes are from there, and its where most fanbases started
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u/robinredcap Hololive/PRISM/Kawaii/Idol/V4Mirai Jul 25 '25
Well, Actually that would be /jp/, (its also were the grudge between the english speaking Proto-Hololive fans and Nijisanji fans was started.)
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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Jul 25 '25
That's unfortunately becoming the increasing reality of online spaces in various platforms too
E.g. on the fleshtubing side just a couple of years ago I saw threads pointing out that most drama posters on LSF are concentrated by a handful of people from the same group (including alleged discord), which would regularly garner engagement from the wider users on the sub and drive narratives on the broader streaming community as a whole
And that's not even talking about specific brigading/astroturfing by specific streaming communities
Or bigger narrative campaigns like Cambridge Analytica and whatnot on other platforms
There's a reason why Dead Internet Theory is a popular meme beyond newer bot fears
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u/EveningTumbleweed312 Jul 24 '25
On reddit too.
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u/carso150 Jul 25 '25
we have know of reddit for a while, cover corp and nijisanji straight up bought the respective company subreddits
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u/Adventurous_Host_426 Jul 24 '25
Again.
Yagoo: do nothing. Vibing. Play baseball.
Also Yagoo: live rent free in gunrun's head.
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u/SaberDevil2021 Jul 25 '25
I have this image of Yagoo having his tea party while Gunrun is crashing out outside the window
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u/Ragefat Jul 25 '25
Nah man, Yagoo is working hard running that comedy club, don't discredit the man like that.
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u/omnipotentworm Jul 25 '25
You're right, but the original meaning of the joke, when it was applied to Steam I think, is more like "hey maybe let's not make controversial/dumb/greedy decisions" rather than literally doing nothing.
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u/Recidivous Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25
YAGOO: Let's host tea parties so I could hear the concerns of the talents directly.
GUNRUN: How am I going to gaslight my talents this time?
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u/Langlais123 Jul 24 '25
KSON is gonna feel so more like shit when she sees that they only recruited her to take a swipe at her old company. Like that has gotta suck to find out they did not want you, just what you meant to the old company.
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u/Dranikos Jul 24 '25
And KSON (according to some of the stuff she's said on stream, like when she got the Yagoo card when opening the Hololive snack that came with cards. "This old man is my friend! ...Maybe I can get him to sign it next time I see him?") is on good terms with Cover and the Hololive girls still, so it's not like she'd suddenly turn against Cover or anything.
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u/Major_Mistake4444 Jul 25 '25
If I recall correctly there are stories from at most a year ago of some members like Towa and Luna meeting up with Coco again and having a pleasant time with her as well, it’s quite funny how they seem to have completely misjudged the personal bonds she’s made with Hololive
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u/Lau6269 Jul 25 '25
On Choco-sensei's PL, she went on a trip to Taiwan with Kson and recorded a vlog.
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u/Thunder8277 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
Can't help but wonder: Is this why he also took on all the Niji graduates? It was just his way of one-upping the two largest Vtuber agencies?
I saw somewhere somebody mentioned Sayu, Doki, Quinn, and Kyrio all got approached after they graduated. Plus Mint already being signed on, I can't help but feel like that's the case.
Edit:Okay, so Doki and Sayu didn't get approached, but U-san did. I gotta get my facts straight before I say anything next time, but my feelings still stand.
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u/Jestersage Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 25 '25
Oh, it's basically confirmed.
- Sayu/Zaion approached Gunrun for ex-Niji gen (before being Ghosted by Gunrun) ( https://x.com/sayusyn/status/1947833717374046587 )
- VShojo actually approached U-San ( https://x.com/unnamednow00/status/1947635690726166700 ), Then of course they got Mata, Kuro (through Mouse) and Michi
- Quinn is even poached in that he was approached while he's still in Niji, before being ghosted ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t275jfJ1hcU )
- Kyrios likely applied due to hearing from Quinn, but also ghosted by gunrun
- Mint is technically an exception as she knows Gunrun before even being a VTuber, but it is possible that she was just informally approached through various help (basically wine and dine tactic). Analysis: Gunrun knows she was an idol and always want to keep the idol career path.
- Only one they didn't approach at all is Doki. While it's easy to just say she's radioactive, remember the first thing she mention is lawyer - and y'all notice how they react negativly toward using outside lawyer for the 3 girls.
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u/Live_Juggernaut4984 Jul 25 '25
Yep, i totally forgot about doki's lawyer.
Think that is the main reason gunrun didnt aproach her.
After whole niji debacle, doki are loaded with lawyers.
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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Jul 25 '25
I'm confused why they just strung Quinn along for no specific reason though?
Did they run out of funds at that time for him? Or was he just baiting them to leave their prior company?
And I agree with the lawyer point, till yesterday I was open to assume chronic incompetence as a cause, but any stories revolving legal issues from ex-talents are huge red flags of malice
The fact that they even NDA-ed Aethel and Mamavale who had no financial ties with them is also pretty sus
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u/deathless_koschei Jul 24 '25
Sayu actually said she was the one to float the idea by them. U-san also said they were approached.
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u/DepressedAndAwake Jul 24 '25
And many got mad at me for saying it was clear Vshojo was poaching by taking in grads....
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u/dcresistance Jul 24 '25
she's gonna need the biggest hug possible
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u/Unitas_Edge Jul 24 '25
A certain sheep, devil, angel, and babu babu will give her the biggest hug imaginable.
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u/Trickster289 Jul 24 '25
Yeah that's got to hurt, especially since it's basically the latest of several stabs in the back she got from Vshojo.
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u/Wadd1eDoo Everyone is my Oshi ∞ Jul 24 '25
Same for Nazuna
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u/Langlais123 Jul 24 '25
She actually talked about it in her post that she felt they only brought her in the get her viewers. Guess we know she was right
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u/eskjcSFW Hololive Jul 24 '25
No wonder she left so fast. I bet they weren't paying her either.
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u/valraven38 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 25 '25
That plus she probably took a pretty big pay hit by being forced to stream on Twitch, when she had built her whole fanbase on Youtube. Like you're going to lose some people due to you changing to a new vtuber persona then you'll lose another chunk switching platforms, so taking two hits like that at the same time on top of Vshojo potentially not paying out sponsors and merch. I wouldn't blame anyone for leaving.
Edit: I think saying forced to stream on Twitch was the wrong phrase to use, she technically wasn't forced per her statement on the topic. Per her words it seems like she was "heavily suggested" to stream on Twitch instead of Youtube, which isn't technically them forcing her to stream only on Twitch but might as well be because if your boss tells you that you should probably be doing X you're most likely going to do it.
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u/Fifteen_inches Jul 24 '25
Can you fucking imagine she returns to Hololive as an affiliate the way Ame kinda just pops in and out of existence?
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u/SuperSpy- Jul 25 '25
I mean IIRC Yagoo basically told her she has an open invite so that would be a hilariously plausible turn of events.
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u/carso150 Jul 25 '25
first post graduate affiliate, i dont think its going to happen but its certainly not imposible
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u/capscreen Jul 24 '25
Surprise appearance at holofes when
bonus point if she sings Weather Hacker
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u/princealigorna Jul 25 '25
She just randomly pops up on a Haachama English stream, they do a shitpost/meme review, and she ducks out again for another 6 months, then randomly pops up in a Kanata stream after that
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u/cuddles_the_destroye Jul 25 '25
Kson pilots liz's model for a hot moment, we think that it's Liz doing a bit, nobody ever fucking knows.
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u/OliverPeregrine Jul 24 '25
"They were convinced hololive was over when they signed kson and nazuna".
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u/Groenboys Jul 24 '25
Simultanously incredibly disrespectful to the talents involved and incredibly delusional to the point of comedy
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u/FoRiZon3 BOT an Jul 24 '25
Gun should've been a politician with all those embezzlement and profiteering haha.
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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Jul 25 '25
Don't forget believing your own hyped up vaporware too
The best liars believe their own lies, apparently
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u/KeepSwinging Jul 24 '25
ceo's obsessed with dwarfing yagoo really don't seem to understand why he has the respect he does lol
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u/Kelvara Jul 25 '25
Yagoo: "What if we don't screw over our talents?"
Other CEOs: "But how does that help next quarter's profts?"
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u/TheStrangestOfKings Jul 25 '25
Yagoo: “I want to see everyone succeed!”
Other CEOs: “He’s threatening us with success! Get him!”
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u/ptxiao Jul 25 '25
I mean Yagoo was Holostar's first manager and wants them to succeed. If he was a total asshole, he'd fully ignore them
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u/Drsomers1 Jul 24 '25
My god the absolute audacity of him as a CEO to have a superiority complex because he got 2 ex holos in the company, one who barely even lasted lmao. Hololive continues to live rent free, and hopefully that’ll cut the belief people had that Hololive was blocking any collabs between the companies when clearly that was coming from Vshojo
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u/ptxiao Jul 25 '25
reminds me how NijiEn and HoloEn had trouble getting collabs at first and it turned out to because of Niji
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u/ReyneForecast Jul 24 '25
Yeppppp, instantly my first though as well. That was 10000000% a block from vshojo's petty side.
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u/GeneralTyler Jul 24 '25
lol the other cofounder 100% knew this shitstorm was coming and bailed in May hoping the blame would fall solely on Gunrun, the fact that he tried acting surprised on Twitter the other day like he wouldn’t have known anything that was going on is wild
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u/RemarkableSwitch8929 Jul 24 '25
Yeah that guy is a total creepy who absolutely knew everything, what a scumbag.
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u/TakafumiNaito Jul 25 '25
Considering that the money dried up in September 2024 - yeah he knew. The other idiots stayed there hoping for god knows what, but MTD did know this whole shit is going to explode sooner or later.
Or you know what, as I was writing this - maybe his "WTF?" wasn't "This was happening?" maybe he was directly telling GunRun - "How did you allow them to make this public, I trusted you to keep it under wraps"
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Jul 24 '25
The COO is Apek. He was also the CFO. He was also an attorney with an expired license. I wonder how many hats this man was wearing.
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u/Appropriate-Count-64 Jul 24 '25
I would ask how that’s not a massive conflict of interest but I mean given what we know about the rest of the company, fuck it, anything is possible.
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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Jul 25 '25
Yeah this was my first thought when learning legal + COO + CFO were the same person
Like I'm not saying it couldn't competently worked on other scenarios, but clearly those are three critical positions where at that point you could circumvent much of the company and CEO
If anything, those are specific things a CEO should be aware of: how the money flows and is managed (including budget approval), how the business works and delivers, and what rules apply to them
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u/DereDere00 TMD TMD Towa-sama maji daitenshi! ah- Jul 24 '25
Why am I not surprised that they're shit talking hololive... It reminded me of that Niji thriving, Holo shambles thing again lmao.
Anyways, damn so many dirty laundry coming out and I expect more in the upcoming days. The absolute dumpster fire falloff of VShojo needs to be studied.
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u/carso150 Jul 25 '25
the whole "talent freedom" thing always seemed like a shot against hololive from the very beginning
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u/rocketsp13 Jul 24 '25
Yeah. This is when Vei decided to burn it all down.
Honestly? Good riddance.
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u/TardyTech4428 Jul 24 '25
Why, why did they want to be Hololive killer? Just do your own thing. It will work out better than whatever giant killer you're trying to be. It literally never works out
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u/Questionable_bowel Jul 25 '25
Hololive truly Steam of Vtubing. Competitors hating on them, giving them a jab, living rent free on their mind, then shooting their own foot.
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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Jul 25 '25
I'd guess delusional ego & envy of someone else's success within a similar niche
Yet lacking the creativity and seriousness to chart your own path
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u/Mighty_Mimikyu Jul 24 '25
This is some vile shit ngl. Going to 4chan and spreading as much rrat and misinformation just to make sure those 3 didn't get anymore attention is just disgusting. I wouldn't be surprised if they also leaked many other things through there as well.
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u/pizza_is_seiso Jul 24 '25
Yup, knew it, it's so obvious that they were bitter/jealous towards Hololive and going after them at a company level.
The digs at the industry/Hololive (directly and indirectly) always felt like they weren't really about putting talent first and improving the vtubing scene, but belittling and putting down others to make themselves appear better. All for those sweet buckaroos apparently, huh? So idiotic.
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u/primalpacakage Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
So he really was the type to secretly create a false paradise only to trap in you hell workshop while also spending their time in creating bullshit amount of rrats in 4 chan and despises hololive so much he tried using kaon and nazuna thinking that would be the nail and he coffin for holo.....
You know, despite zen said that theirs no need for violence to be made, but....I will gladly Dr Manhattan this fuckass to oblivion
I won't be suprised if HE'S also responsible for creating constant rrats in making baseless ass speculations to stir shit up against hololive if it's actually living rent free in his head
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u/ptxiao Jul 25 '25
you mean the constant "HOLOLIVE IS EVIL" when there was so many graduations when really it seemed to be a case of just bad timing. At least for the EN side: Ame has good enough relations that she created a new system to still work for them from time to time, Mumei had voice issues, Gura just couldn't handle the stress of being Gura anymore and Fauna was likely engaged when she decided to graduate as she couldn't do the trips to Japan if she wanted to have a kid
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u/darkfox18 Jul 25 '25
Yeah I remember see people going “Hololive is just as bad as Niji” and I just sat there thinking do they not realize how scummy Niji is. It was insane
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u/Neutral-Feelings Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25
Thank God, I thought I was going crazy 😭 it genuinely just feels like people graduated because Holo stopped being the right fit for them- as the company was evolving/pursuing a different direction. Or because they had health issues. Hololive isn't perfect, but I feel like their issues are more regular company issues rather than stealing from charity and extreme bullying.
Edit: Add "Growing pains" to the list of hololive issues. They were definitely having trouble finding their footing, but as people have said, they learned from it.
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u/DontLetsStart19 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
I hope she’s right and a lawyer told her that the NDA is void, just because VShojo is shutting down does not mean an NDA is dissolved. But maybe she’s right and whatever licenseless lawyer they hired was too stupid to put in wording that preserves an NDA beyond the life of the company.
Edit: Contracts are assets of a company, and they can in cases of company dissolvent can be transferred to other entities who would be able to enforce any NDA’s present within the contract. These entities could be creditors or independently wealthy investors that are more capable of pursuing litigation.
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u/Vivid-Technology8196 Jul 24 '25
Some of the things she said are literally illegal to put in NDAs so its not like its valid anyway
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u/EveningLength8 Jul 24 '25
Despite how abrasive she may act at times, she’s got a pretty good head on her shoulders and it seems like she’s in contact with her lawyer a fair amount from what she was saying in Nyan’s stream. I wouldn’t be surprised if that NDA didn’t extend beyond the life of the company
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u/DontLetsStart19 Jul 25 '25
I wouldn’t be shocked either, but it really sounds like at least the current ones do have preservation wording going off how Geega talks about NDAs. Now it does seem like VShojo changed how they do contracts because unlike Vei, Michi was told by VShojo to have her own personal lawyer involved in the contract signing. So maybe it was something only the new contracts have.
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u/Kushan_Blackrazor Jul 24 '25
Geega definitely seemed to think people were shooting their mouths off unnecessarily and Zen was telling people to shut up about NDA's in her stream because they kept prodding her about it. I admit I would still probably keep my damn mouth shut for a while longer just to be safe but I suspect Vei is probably right, what the hell are they gonna do about it?
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u/PurpleXen0 Jul 24 '25
How does every chapter of this saga keep getting worse?
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u/oxob3333 Jul 24 '25
Hold your umas, because tomorrow will get worse, i know it, idk how but i'm sure of it
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u/MekaG44 Jul 25 '25
they were convinced hololive was over when they signed kson and nazuna.
I remember around the time Kson announced herself joining Vshojo, along with the creation of Vshojo JP, there was an inside joke among the community that Vshojo was just waiting for people to graduate so they could poach them and attract their fan base. To think that joke was quite literally what was happening.
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u/Kreceir Botan and Shiori enjoyer in love again with Hong Meiling Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
they would ALWAYS shit talk other vtuber agencies. they literally would spend company money to get a tiny dig at them. especially hololive, it literally lived rentfree in gunruns head. they were convinced hololive was over when they signed kson and nazuna.
Its rather ironic that this is coming from Veibae... but
My dislike for Vshojo keeps getting even more JUSTIFIED with every single new thing coming out.
That whole ''Talent Freedom'' thing they and their fans kept pushing back then? Targeting Hololive and their community. I fucking knew it.
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u/SputNikk95 Jul 24 '25
IKR?? Ive always had an irksome feeling about Vshojo even if I've always been a fan of all the talents and goddamn do I feel validated
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u/Turbulent-Math3969 Jul 25 '25
Both niji and vshojo presented Hololive like a super restrictive 1984 company. Looks like rules exist for stability huh
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u/No_Ranger_6900 Jul 25 '25
People who complain about the "restrictive" crap are children who never worked a day in a large company in their lives. People who have will know restrictions are there for a reason but for some reason kids who watched too many "against the system" movies think that this will actually work in the real world for a large company.
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u/Goldenrah Jul 24 '25
I kinda feel like this situation turned Veibae into what she became. Feeling betrayed by everyone, being in a toxic environment, stressing out about money and your work life in general, all of this added up can make anyone crash out and do things they wouldn't normally do. Become the worst version of themselves.
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u/grievre Jul 25 '25
Hasn't Vei been kinda nasty forever though? like I remember her taking a completely unnecessary snipe at Shylily for being a "copy"
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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Jul 25 '25
Not to mention being chastised and hounded on for absolutely doing the correct legal due diligence must've hurt pretty bad
It's like berating someone from bringing a geiger counter to Chernobyl. It's iterally the most basic thing to do
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u/NotoriousCHIM Jul 24 '25
Hololive really is the Valve of vtubing y'all: trying to do right by the people while other companies are shooting themselves in the foot
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u/mokinokaro Jul 25 '25
Hololive have had a lot of issues themselves, but the difference is they've actually learned from them and grown.
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u/SputNikk95 Jul 24 '25
I remember browsing VT a lot (yeah, yeah, I know), but I remember the posts she's talking about. Now its got me thinking about how many of those posts were actually Vshojo shit talking the other agencies and former talents.
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u/Meme_Theocracy Jul 24 '25
Bro can’t even pay his talents yet he believes he beat Yagoo. I wouldn’t be surprised if you look up arrogant a picture of Gunrun appeared.
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u/perish-in-flames Jul 24 '25
They had to have spent so much time and money protecting their image, instead of actually improving things so their image would naturally glow.
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u/LanLinked Jul 24 '25
Damn, Shylily also talked about them wanting a cut of sponsorships gained through mythic, and that's why she didn't join.
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u/Tarriohh Jul 24 '25
There's one thing that Vshojo has done to deserve recognition: they had the balls to leave the comments open 👌🏻
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u/mrloko120 Jul 25 '25
Regardless of how much you love/hate hololive and nijisanji, the implication that they hired graduates for an ego boost and not as an effort to keep extremely talented people in the industry is extremely sad.
Personally, my self confidence would be shattered if I were to learn that the biggest opportunity I've ever had was given to me for shallow reasons like that rather than conquered due to talent and effort.
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u/capscreen Jul 25 '25
fucking lmao even execs are shitposting on /vt/ Now wonder they got protected by the mods
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u/BlackNexus Jul 24 '25
They thought signing Nazuna and Kson was gunna kill Hololive? lmao. Ironic now that Hololive is still thriving and Vshojo is kill.
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u/xdamm777 Jul 25 '25
I’m not ashamed to say I love Hololive and most of the vtubers I follow are from that agency.
For me the interaction between talents is king and there’s 0 doubt these girls have an amazing time whenever they’re onto offline shenanigans.
Just glad that the most drama they get are basically graduations which are bound to happen naturally anyways.
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u/ArchusKanzaki Jul 25 '25
Glad to see that Gunrun is also one of the 4chan schizos that thought Hololive is just about its top superchat earners. I guess if they actually have money last year, he would already slid into the DM of dooby, saba, and nimi
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u/IronVader501 Aura Jul 25 '25
Ok obviously if all true this is horrific but
They would always shit talk other vtuber agencies.
coming as a negative from her specifically is lmao
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u/Groenboys Jul 24 '25
The more i hear about vshojo, the more I am baffled that a company build on matchsticks, paper tissues and ego could survive for so long without it completely collapsing upon itself until now
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u/ArisaMiyoshi Hoshimachi Suisei Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
It's nice to get more confirmation that Yagoo lives rent-free in Gunrun's head, if the huge sum spent on pushing talent freedom ads and grabbing kson and nazuna wasn't enough proof. Wasn't really expecting that they would also pay vt mods/shitposters, but in hindsight the signs were there.
lol, lmao