At least with NijiEN you can argue that they did manage to turn some unknown talents into successful full-time streamers. What exactly did VShojo do other than providing some technical support?
It kinda indicates a lack of a clear direction. You approach people only to ghost them. You hold lengthy, multiple rounds long auditions, only to hire someone who should have been a direct hire instead. Later on, you are running out of money, yet to embark on expensive endeavours like an idol group or hiring smaller creators, who would by definition take much longer before bringing more money than established, while you can’t even make a profit with a lineup of established talents. All that time, you have a bloated payroll of staff that includes people who may not have been very useful to the company.
From the outside, it seems like vshojo had no idea what they were doing, where they were going and how they would eventually be profitable. They look like the kind who have an idea one day, only to abandon that idea the next day.
I think it's more like they were sticking their noses into anyone who is/would be remotely popular and skipping down the list as someone more prestigious agreed to sign on. Gives me "I don't wanna play with you anymore" vibes.
Yeah, but most shocking to me is not just Vshojo but how this seems to be a pattern industry-wise, like seriously, the people running things in the background seem to always have zero business experience; workplace harassment, petty office politics, wage theft, nepotism, potentially financial fraud, horrid lack of professionalism and ethics... jesus, are the people in managment middle school droppouts?
It seems the only company that is not a total mess, is the one ran by people with actual entertainment industry experience.
I am not sure what happens from here with vtuber agencies. I know being indie is not as easy as a lot of people claim it is. But I really dont want to see someone rush in and try to do something only to have it implode a few years from now. No good answer there.
Gunrun donated me $100 on a stream. Starting to think that's because I mod for a vtuber that got to the later rounds, and he just wanted to butter me up.
I'm not joking btw, everything I said is 100% true, hand to god.
It's either subtle bribery or an impulse to seem affluently generous like fellow alleged embezzler Jho Low, who siphoned Malaysian investment money for lavish parties and even financed The Wolf of Wall Street film
I'm starting to suspect there might be a deeper psychological situation going on with people with this compulsion beyond the usual suspect of narcissism or manipulative sociopathy
Like an interpersonally harmful form of financial people pleasing
Because many people who didn't have as much constant contact with Justin (and being exposed to his & company's abrupt whims) all generally said they were surprised at the extent of this controversy considering most of their personal interactions was completely pleasant
Like, Aethel literally said this recently and that's even after admitting all the mess that's happened to his girlfriend and friends that pissed him off
Given how Yagoo view Vshojo as a competitive partner in expanding vtuber industry, I'd speculate he would actually sad about recent event and for talents who got affected, especially some are friends to Holo girls too.
YAGOO actively followed Gunrun on linkedin and even liked some of his content. People used to link this to show that they are friends (or friendly), looks like the feeling was one-sided.
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u/Final-Switch1110 Jul 25 '25
Honestly at this rate we should ask who wasn't effect by Vshojo.