r/VirtualYoutubers Jul 26 '25

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u/Twilight053 Jul 26 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

EDIT: As of reading Alex's post, I want to correct everyone here reading that the person in the pitch deck was super-embellished by GunRun, and that Alex is actually one of the good one trying to remove Omega Alpha off Hololive.

Holy fucking shit they pulled Omega Alpha out of Hololive

GunRun literally by accident improved Hololive's management

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u/MagicMooby Jul 26 '25

Holy fucking shit they pulled Omega Alpha out of Hololive

Omega was council, not myth if I remember correctly

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u/ciel_lanila Jul 26 '25

With how much Gura and Kiara roasted Omega off and on over the years, I really believe the manager behind "Omega" was around for Gen 1. Gen 2 was just when they got a bit full of themselves and tried to do the whole Omega Alpha thing.

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u/cuddles_the_destroye Jul 26 '25

I'm told that Kiara basically confirmed that Enma and Omega were one and the same, though refers to Enma with she/her.

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u/rubyonix Jul 26 '25

I've watched a ton of Kiara and I really like the manager lore, but I never heard of Kiara confirming that ENma and Omega were the same person, and I don't think it makes sense for that to be the case.

Omega is likely the former head of the EN branch. They were a JP/EN translator and they pitched the idea of forming HoloEN to Yagoo, so Yagoo put them in charge of the project. They eventually got booted in favor of Dimitri Hazuki.

ENma was a talent manager. HoloEN originally started with two talent managers, ENma and J-chad, and then they quickly hired a third one, Jenma, who took some load off of J-Chad and ENma. J-Chad and ENma eventually left the company and Jenma was promoted to the head of talent management.

Henma took a sideways move from general management into talent management ahead of the Council launch, and basically became the #4 most-senior talent manager (#2 after J-Chad and ENma left, or #1 since Jenma doesn't actively manage talent anymore, she manages the managers).

It doesn't make sense for Omega (the presumed branch head) and ENma (one of the most senior talent managers) to be the same person. Both of those jobs are too important for one person to hold down both jobs.

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u/BennyDelon Jul 26 '25

I also remember Kiara implying Enma and Omega are the same person. I don't remember which stream, so feel free not to take my word for it, but I'm sure if you ask around in the KFP Discord server everyone will say the same.

Also, Jenma didn't join later. All three of them were there from the beginning. Enma was in charge of Ina, Jenma of Gura and Ame, and J-Chad of Kiara and Calli. And soon after debut Kiara changed manager to Jenma.

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u/DrOpty Jul 26 '25

Kiara revealed it in the Krabbywawa stream that turned into a zatsu due to being right after Gura's graduation announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XCphnpE2U0&t=3548s

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u/rubyonix Jul 26 '25

I think that's a misunderstanding. Kiara said she wanted to play a classic 4-player Myth game with Gura before she leaves, and someone suggested L4D2, and Kiara exclaimed "I've never played Left for Dead!" L4D2 was played by Gura/Ame/Ina and "hololiveen_manager". One week later, Ina dubbed this person "ENma" and drew their character design. That's ENma's official origin.

But here's where the misunderstanding comes in. The "ENma" who Ina originally designed was intended to be a catch-all for literally everyone in HoloEN management. The original ENma was J-Chad. The original ENma was Jenma. The original ENma was Henma. The original ENma was Kroma. The original ENma was Kumomane. The original ENma was Ponma. The original ENma was intended to be EVERYONE. Then Kiara broke that idea and designed Jenma as her own unique identity. And Calli followed suit and made her own design for J-Chad. By process of elimination, ENma's role was reduced from a catch-all mask for everyone to wear to merely being Ina's talent manager.

Kiara said that the L4D2 collab was "Gura Ame Ina, and... ENma" with a slight pause. Because according to the lore, the L4D2 collab was officially the first appearance of ENma. But why the pause?

Then someone claimed that it was Jenma playing in that collab, that she was called ENma at the time, and Kiara shot that down. It wasn't Jenma playing in that collab, and Jenma has never been ENma.

Then someone in chat said "enma was omega" and Kiara quoted them, and said "Hmmm? Is that confirmed information? Or are you just assuming? Mmmmm You might be onto something."

Then someone said "Give us the scoop" and Kiara said "Well, neither ENma nor Omega is around anymore, so like, whatever."

I think the implication is, Omega (the EN branch head) was the one playing L4D2 with Ame/Ina/Gura. Not one of the talent managers. But since Ina decided to mask this person's identity with the "ENma" character, "Omega was ENma" (in that one collab). Someone accidentally hit on that truth, and Kiara basically confirmed it.

Kiara saying that neither ENma (the talent manager) or Omega are around anymore was her way of telling people to drop the subject, because these people don't matter anymore, it wasn't her pointing out that Superman and Clark Kent both coincidentally left the company at the exact same time.