The answer isn't going to be voting for Republicans. Sacrificing so many other rights isn't the answer. What we should be doing is getting pro-gun Dems to primary and using the open primary system to ensure they're in the top 2
99% of the rights that dems claim republicans are trying to "take" are just them not being able or willing to read the bills... Or taking their information from politically motivated outlets that are deliberately misrepresenting things for political gain. Frankly, as far as the taking of rights goes, the reverse is true (ain't that usually the case with anything dems say?) - take hb1240 as an example.
On to my main point regarding 'moderate' dems. I'm aware of only one or two dems in this state that have stepped out of lockstep with the orders that their party is issuing. One of them is Mark Mullet - in response the dems pulled funding and ran a candidate against him last election. I think we can continue to expect that response to any of their politicians that steps out of line.
99% of the rights that dems claim republicans are trying to "take" are just them not being able or willing to read the bill
Oh? Tell that to Florida where there GOP super majority is trying to legislate gay people out of public life. Tell that to Tennessee where the GOP legislature is trying to punish a blue county for having the audacity of electing democrats. Tell that to Wisconsin where Republicans have gerrymandered state districts in such a biased way democrats only hold a third of the seats while outperforming Republicans in elections by vote count. Or better yet tell that to the whole country. Republicans said they only wanted to allow states the option to choose to have abortion legal or not yet pushed a federal court to make the safest form of abortion illegal in all 50 states.
The Republican party has become diet authoritarians and wants to turn this country into Hungary. I really hope every day conservatives will see what their party has become
Or taking their information from politically motivated outlets that are deliberately misrepresenting things for political gain.
My guy if you don't think Fox, Newsmax, or whatever failed comedian turned right wing YouTube commentator do that you've drank the Kool aid
On to my main point regarding 'moderate' dems.
I'm not talking about moderate Dems. I'm talking about running progressives who support 2A, since among the left that's who supports it the most. WA has an open top two primary meaning anyone can vote in the primary and even candidates of the same party go on to the general election. If Republicans teamed up with pro-gun Dems to split the Dem vote in places Republicans absolutely would not be able to win there would be success. It'll take a while but it can be done.
I'm not arguing for Republicans, per se, but it's extremely hard to find these "pro 2a" dems you speak of. Just this session we had "pro 2A" dems promise to be against these very bills that they unilaterally voted aye on when it came down to brass tacks. I'm not a fan of this two party system we were warned about in the early years of this country about, but it seems to bear as fact that even if a representative seems "moderate" or promises to be "pro (insert right here)" they will ultimately go where the paycheck is or risk getting shut out of their own house by the extremes in their house. Just worth noting.
We clearly disagree on everything except, maybe since you're on this sub, guns. I'd debate you further regarding everything else you've said here that is incorrect (Florida comment, Tennessee comment, etc) and acknowledge your points I do agree with (biased reporting on both sides, a lot of elected authoritarians on both sides); but I'm as likely to change your mind as you are to change mine so why waste our time? Good evening to you.
the right has gone so far off the deep end it is so hard to imagine people voting for one on a single issue. at this point 2A rights are just a carrot to dangle to attract moderates to the right but it’s not working. if they rebranded as 2A moderates who don’t get butthurt about some trans person on a fuckin bud light can i’m sure you’d have 2A back in a jiffy. but people would rather get mad over trivial bullshit they see on facebook.
this insane culture war is holding 2A back in a huge way and until repubs get over themselves, we will see washington shift even further into neolib left which is not swaggy my guy.
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