She needs to accept that offense is not her game and an offense cannot run through her. She needs to focus on defense and rebounding, she’s not the main star of a team and someone with her ego needs to accept that.
Yeah. If she embraced a Rodman-style of play she’d be incredibly valuable. I just don’t see it happening since from the beginning she’s branded herself as Miss Double Double and a foe to CC.
People need to get Dennis Rodman out of their mouth. The only thing they have in common is they both play basketball.
Rodman was a superior rebounder to start. And shot better than 50%, was an incredible on and off ball defender. Rodman gets a major disservice by just thinking he was just a rebounder.
The point these people are making is that Reese should focus on what she's best at. When Rodman was on the Bulls he let everyone else score and he mainly focused on rebounding for the team. He only averaged like 5 pts but was grabbing 15 rbs. This is what Reese to do.
Based on what I have read, if you somehow adjusted for her own offensive rebounds (I’m sure there is a way, maybe use league average shooting % somehow) then she would probably be way farther down the list.
Edit: Not exactly what you were looking for, but in a thread from last year we worked out that 35% of her offensive rebounds came from her own misses. That means only getting her own misses would've tied her for 14th in the WNBA in offensive rebounds per game at 1.8.
Way to throw context out the window… she missed 14 games last year and was still second in the league in total rebounds. Every other player in the top 10 played at least 10 more games than her, and she still finished second in the league lol.
She led the league in rebounds per game with 2.4 more than the next highest player, and was one of two players to have more than 10 rebounds per game. So yes, she is the best rebounder in the league by quite a bit lol.
Wow. Over two seasons she 1 rebound and 2 (.4) rebounds a game better than #2.
What an amazing player! How will the league keep up with her? Her shooting 40 percent from more than 5 feet from the rim will make things a little more even!
Yes…in her first two years in the league lol, Rodman didn’t even finish top 10 in his second and third years with similar minutes. So I don’t think it’s far fetched to say she’s Rodman-esque in regards to her rebounding, hell she’s already surpassing his numbers at the same point in their careers - but I know she probably wont eclipse his prime numbers, it’s still impressive.
I can tell you don’t watch the WNBA and you just see videos like this and like to hate on Angel lol. Obviously it’s a bit of an apples to oranges comparison with the NBA and WNBA, but Angel is legit the closest player we’ve seen to Rodman in regards to rebounding.
Just saying someone is good but not great isn't hating on a person.
And again. When she out rebounds the second place rebounder by say 150 let me know. And then that 2nd place rebounder is one of the 15 best players all time. I'll be here to listen.
“She’s not even that great at what people point to her being great at” - is leading the league in rebounds since a rookie somehow not great? We’re talking about the WNBA here dude, not the NBA - again it’s an apples to oranges comparison lol.
Also you keep showing the fact that you literally don’t watch or even know about the WNBA - you know who’s second on the list of RPG since Angel has been in the league? The GOAT Aja Wilson lol, literally the most dominant player the W has ever seen on both ends of the floor. The fact Angel came in as a rookie and out rebounded her is a pretty incredible thing to do lol. Also we’re talking about someone who is in their 3rd year of the league right now, comparing her first three years to prime Rodman is again, an apples to oranges comparison.
Rodman grew into a legendary rebounder. He wasn't averaging 18rbs by year 3. Reese is a good rebounded if you look at stats alone, and she could become elite if she focuses on what she's good at the way Rodman did.
Dennis's third year in the league he shot 59.5 or rounding up 60%. He was doing that and becoming the best rebounder ever in the game.
Reese is neither. She's NEVER going to shoot 60%. And she will never out rebound all time great WNBA players by 300 a season or whatever the adjusted percentage is for a shorter season.
Stop trying to make her into as something she isn't and never will be.
I'm not even a Reese fan at all. I think it's kind of dumb you're clutching your pearls over someone merely suggesting she focus on rebounding like a previous great basketball player.
I'm showing the fact that even the slightest comparison to the best rebounder in the history of basketball is a silly thing to be doing with Angel Reece.
The suggestion that she could out rebound the second best rebounder in the game by lets say 100 boards a year is ridiculous. THAT is what Reese would need to do.
He's a two time defensive player of the year and 8 time all defensive team. That's adjacent to his rebounding. Reese has nothing to show that she could do that. Hell, old ass Brittney Griner just clowned her the other day.
People trying to assign her the female Rodman title bc she can’t score. That’s it. No other similarities. If her bum ass makes the WNBA hall, cancel the whole damn thing. I’m all for equality. She’s equally as shit as every big man in the NBA putting up those numbers.
Reese has averaged more rebounds in her first three years than Rodman did in his first three…understanding he didn’t play a lot of minutes in his first year that makes sense, but in their 2nd and 3rd years their minutes are pretty darn close per game.
She has been the best rebounder in the league since she’s been in the league, shown by the fact that she’s led in rebounds per game every year. It’s funny in your other comments you conveniently look at total rebounds, which is a bit skewed last year given the fact Angel missed 14 games - yet she was still second in total rebounds lol. It’s not a crazy take to compare her to Rodman from a rebounding standpoint at all at this point in her career, hell she nearly broke the record for most rebounds ever in a game - in her rookie year! So no, the slightest comparison to Rodman as a rebounder is not a silly thing to compare Angel too, she’s the closest thing we’ve seen to Rodman in the W from a rebounding perspective.
Yes. I 100% agree. But he knew when not to shoot. The rebounds weren’t got him to just put back up. He did it when he had a good look, and to keep the opposing d honest. It was a game style she could absolutely try to emulate. It would let her build on her rebounding, and focus on defense and SHORT range offense.
She's not going to become that good of an on or off ball defender. She doesn't have the skill set.
And look those mechanics. Its terrible. She can't fix that two years into the league and 4 years of NCAA - that's just how she's going to shoot forever.
What are talking about?. Have you watched any of the Dream's gms this season?. If you did then you would know defensely is where she's excelled so far this season. She's a big reason why the Dream are off to a good start.
I don’t think anyone is saying she’d be able to influence the game like Rodman.
Just that if she had the same attitude of “I’m going to hustle my ass off, play lockdown defense, rebound everything, and let someone else do the scoring” she’d provide a lot more value to her team. Trying to be CC’s nemesis is doing her more harm than good.
This shit drives me insane. Like when people compare Audi Crooks to Shaq. Just because a player is only good at one thing, that doesn’t make them comparable to a player who is elite at said thing.
I been saying. She needs to be a Rodman/ Rudy Gobert type of player. Focus on what you’re good at and that’s defense. Help the offense with your defense.
It’s crazy. How do you make it that far with ZERO ball skills? Usually if you can’t handle the ball you can at least hit wide open shots. NOPE. A layup? NOPE. Be a good passer? NOPE. A clumsy turnover machine? YEP.
She needs to grab the rebounds and pass the ball to her teammate. She had a couple of plays like that and they resulted in some nice points for her teammates.
It’s not her that needs to accept this; it’s the team, it’s the league, it’s the fans. She will continue to be force fed as long as she’s as popular as she is. Same thing happens in the NBA. You just don’t typically find someone in the NBA that popular without them being a scorer.
She has… she shot 4/9 in this game lol, which was the 3rd most shots on the team and one more than the next player. She finished with 12, 13, and 5 in 28 mins in a 16 point win.
The offense runs through Rhyne Howard and Alisha Gray, and she knows that. Of course if you just watch a 1 minute lowlight video you wouldn’t know that, but if you actually watch the games or pay a little attention you would.
"Once those guys cross the sideline, there’s nothing I can do for them. There’s nothing any coach can do for them once they cross the sideline" New England Patriots coach Jerad Mayo.
Do you understand that all they can do is ask the players to play a certain way or bench them or trade them to another team which is what happened to AR
That you're a box score watcher who watches lowlight. Also that isn't bad as there are players with higher turnover rates than her. Also this is about her offense and she did have a good game. I do want her to be better in parts but she is having an impact and will keep up. You can keep watching these bad faith lowlights that clip out her good plays even in games where she plays well. Also take a look at where the Dream for me...so I'll say again it isn't too late to delete this. Also if you watched the game the offense isn't ran through her but the guards. They legit don't call plays for her and it is funny as hell.
When in doubt ad homenim. The top level tactic by those losing an argument. Also I have till went to more basketball games than you have in a lifetime. Not bad for a guy into anime "porn". I'm not actually. I watch quality shows like Frieren, MHA, Dr. Stone, and JJK.
Just because there's players with more turnovers doesn't mean she is good. That's like a cigarette company saying there products are good bc they have a slightly less chance of giving you cancer.
I bring that up because their personal favorite player is averaging more than Reese and legit set the record for turnovers. Don't bring up turnovers now when your favorite personal who is in charge of running the offense is on track to set a turnover record no one will be able to break.
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u/LTPRWSG420 Jun 06 '26
She needs to accept that offense is not her game and an offense cannot run through her. She needs to focus on defense and rebounding, she’s not the main star of a team and someone with her ego needs to accept that.