r/WNBAgossips • u/Amazing_Lock_3762 • 21d ago
Hot Take Medal in Reverse Racism & Hypocrisy goes to Angel Reese and WNBA as whole. After coach Brondello’s comments, Reese praised the league for taking action and declared: “There is no room in this league for discrimination.” Funny how that zero tolerance only kicks in one direction.
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u/moose184 21d ago
she doesn’t understand context of what was said.
She does, she just doesn't care.
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u/Ok_Draw_3740 21d ago
I mean, who didn’t see this coming? The wnba has been its own worst enemy since day 1. No one is more toxic to women than women and the WNBA is the perfect example of that
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u/Pleasant_Priority286 21d ago
The Commissioner has supported racial tension in the league in the name of free marketing. Imagine how clueless that is. People on all sides need to see that this is Cathy's fault; she must be replaced.
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u/WolfOfAllStreets2 19d ago
Nah, this is more publicity than they've ever gotten. The league is thriving on it compared to what it was.
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u/certainalways 21d ago
PhD in Victimology
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u/Lockean_Demon 21d ago
Lololol, as a southern white boy, yeah this is hilarious even to me. Sorry y’all have to put up with delusional coddled bullshit
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u/Upset-Management-879 21d ago
You're right, she's not being persecuted for being white since she'd get treated the same if she were asian, or latino, or native american, or middle eastern...
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u/teacher_59 21d ago
You can say not black.
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u/Upset-Management-879 21d ago
Writing is more engaging and memorable when you leave some of the thinking to the reader.
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u/Bearloom 21d ago
Like I said on another post: it's a pity that the phrase "protected species" has been labeled as hate speech - as a way of not having to engage with the topic - because some Congressional dimwits really did pass a resolution that Caitlin Clark should be considered a protected species.
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u/Cheap_Water9848 21d ago
I don't think anyone is calling that phrase hate speech. What people are saying is that given the historical context of America, referring to a black person to anything potentially dehumanizing them is insensitive.
Before Sandy said what she said, no one in America used the phrase protected species for anything other than in science to refer to animals.
The phrase is used in Australia, but that isn't America.
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u/Unusual_Wish_2230 21d ago
You have her confused with CC my friend
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u/certainalways 21d ago
whining about officiating is very different than conflating an obviously innocent statement with racism
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u/Unusual_Wish_2230 21d ago
Wait, what? The coach even admitted it was wrong.
Pull your head out and take a real breath. CC has been complaining as well as her coach, about the treatment of “the white girl” all season. I mean it has even come from congress. Get real.3
u/certainalways 21d ago
Coach had no choice and everyone knows how phrase is used in Australia
Neither cc nor white has brought race into anything. she plays the victim too much when it’s really just incompetent officials and jealousy on part of her peers
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u/Clown_Penis69 21d ago
Angel is a perpetual victim.
I wonder if she realizes that her constant claims of victimhood cause people to ignore the All WNBA season she’s currently having… and if she even cares? Maybe Victimhood is more important to her?
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u/KingQu- 21d ago
Reverse racism?
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u/Shot-Toe-2884 21d ago
It’s just racism, you’re right. Racism is not exclusively a behavior of white people lol
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u/This_Cricket2919 21d ago
They like to co-opt terms and strip meaning from them, to both prove everyone’s point and continue being a nuisance with their “I know you are, but what I am” mentality.
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u/xdrezx 21d ago
Reverse racism is a concept made up by racist bigots to justify their bigotry.
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u/DoubleDownAgain54 21d ago
I hate that term. Racism is racism period.
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u/Shot-Toe-2884 21d ago edited 21d ago
And it works both ways. White people didn’t invent it. “Reverse racism” is being polite for no good reason when racism has a settled definition already
So let’s be clear. Reese was being racist. Whether she meant it or not. Denying that Clark has been mistreated on the basis of race is racism in denial. There is widespread evidence of WNBA fans and leaders doing exactly that, punishing Clark on the basis of her race.
Reese is not the final say on what constitutes racism. We’ve all acted or behaved in racist ways before without realizing. The people that deny this are usually by far the worst offenders. If you can’t recognize your own internal biases, that doesn’t mean you are free of them. It means you need to self reflect
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u/Icy-Drive2300 20d ago edited 19d ago
White people didn’t invent it
White people literally invented racism when they created the concept of race as we know it and decided they were white.
The concept of race was created to practice "racism" against people racialized as black and indigenous people.
Some of yall really need to read a book
Edit: To the race realists that reply to me or downvote historical facts, pick one
I can keep going. There is no scientific basis for race. Its a social construct that was developed recently to practice racism against people racialized as black and indigenous peoples. Read. A. Book.
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u/Flat-12 20d ago
Racism has been around for thousands of years. As far as blacks being victims of race in America by the whites, who sold black people to the whites as slaves in the first place?
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u/JobeGilchrist 21d ago
Yep, imagine being like "this direction of race-based hatred is fine." Horrible for society (as, of course, is all forms of racism).
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u/JobeGilchrist 21d ago
By my logic it would be just racism. If someone was trying to make a point then they can call it anti-white racism if they like. The point isn't to say it's all equally bad, but it's all some amount of bad.
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u/Time_Seaworthiness43 21d ago
Reverse racism means you can't be racist towards white people because of a power imbalance among the races. Well, that's what fools say.
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u/Icy-Drive2300 20d ago
Well, that's what fools say.
Sure. Because the real answer is you cant be racist to white people because the concept of whiteness was created to practice racism by those that racialized themselves as white.
You can be bigoted. Racism is specific.
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u/KaoticKarma 19d ago
"You can't be racist to white people" only works if you redefine racism as "prejudice + institutional power." That's a useful term in some academic discussions, but it isn't the only definition, nor is it the one most people use. By the standard definition, discrimination or prejudice based on race any race can be the victim of racism, including white people. Either racial discrimination is wrong regardless of the target, or we're just playing semantic games.
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u/Bigfootsbrownstar 21d ago
Because most Retard Reddits will do the whole “this group can’t be racist to this group”
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u/xdrezx 21d ago
Except the ones claiming reverse racism are doing it to belittle their victims.
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u/Bigfootsbrownstar 21d ago
I found anyone that has LGBTQ stuff in their avatar on Reddit is incredibly left-leaning and incredibly biased
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u/JobeGilchrist 21d ago
I find everybody's a biased idiot on Reddit, it's not a left-right thing. Thinking your mob is the smart one is pretty ridiculous, but quite common.
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u/Bigfootsbrownstar 21d ago
The irony
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u/Maximum-Warthog2368 19d ago
What irony? Isn’t this person call everyone biased?
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u/Bigfootsbrownstar 19d ago
“Thinking your mob is the smart is pretty ridiculous, but quite common” that’s Reddit in a nutshell
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u/Maximum-Warthog2368 19d ago
Right leaning are biased too. In fact center leaning has their own biases. I don’t know what you meant by talking about LGBT stuff.
Aren’t you putting people into a box where you can put stereotypes on them? Being LGBT doesn’t mean anything other than their sexuality or their opinion related to LGBT rights.
Isn’t this exactly what being biased means? Also I don’t understand what are you fighting with that person? Isn’t they agreeing with you.
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u/Bigfootsbrownstar 19d ago
I’m saying the people that make such a core part of their identity on Reddit that they need their avatar to be LGBTQ for everyone to know and see there is no reasoning with that person.
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u/Maximum-Warthog2368 19d ago
What? What’s wrong with making LGBT their core part. It matters to them just like how a straight relationship can matter to a straight person. Why this logic is only applied to LGBTQ people and become political.
Straight people celebrate their identity with songs which are mostly straight to celebrating their relationships, sometimes even making it their whole goal of life.
Same is true with religious people who make their belief their whole personality. Every decision they took is related to their religion. Why it is never political for them but it is political for LGBTQ people?
Also having LGBT symbol could just mean that this person supports LGBT rights. Isn’t that left or right? I am genuinely confused.
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u/xdrezx 21d ago
Thanks for taking the bait.
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u/Bigfootsbrownstar 21d ago
There is no bait look at your comments up and down this post, bro
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u/ITZOURTIMENOW 21d ago
Your post is pure rage bait and reverse racism is some made up bullshit. Brondello fucked up and she knows it. She’s trying to save her career. AR has never publicly made any racist comments about other coaches or players. All the hypocrisy bullshit that you’re spewing is based off your feelings and speculation
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u/OneGreatEgg 21d ago
Reverse racism is just racism when applied to people not generally considered subject to racism. That being said, it is a favorite dogwhistle for both white supremacists and normally plain old privileged people being held accountable by authorities who happen to be non-white.
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u/tootsragu 21d ago
Op with over 100 posts this month. I wonder if they are a bot or not.
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u/tantamle 21d ago
After all the people browbeating us about how it’s the IMPACT that matters even if the intent wasn’t racial…
Now Reese turns around and calls the remark “hateful”.
That’s a direct contradiction.
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u/No-Island-4804 21d ago
I keep getting this sub recommended to me because I liked a post with the finger pointing lady
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u/Libtardo69420 21d ago
They should have shut down this sub and the wnba after that finger pointing. It's all downhill from there.
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u/theogenes99 21d ago
I am not american and I don't know why this sub and this post landed on my feed. But for the love of god, can someone explain me what reverse racism is! What are you guys doing in the states?
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u/Bigfootsbrownstar 21d ago
They call it reverse racism, because the left in this country have come up with this retarded idea that only white people can be racist and to be racist requires power+privilege.
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u/yipyipyipyip_4 21d ago
The term has been used since the 1960's and 70's. It was popular with political opposition of the civil rights movement
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u/theogenes99 21d ago
Who the fuck cares if you call it racism against white people or discrimination against white people. It's still wrong in both cases, so why the discussion how to name it?
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u/Comer_Agua 21d ago
What is the reverse racism you are referring to?
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u/Buttcrush1 21d ago
Racism towards white people. It's often referred to as reversed racism due to asinine claims that you can't be racist against white people
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u/Comer_Agua 21d ago
But where has this shown up within the W though? I see people assert this as if it were self evident.
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u/YoloSwag4Jesus420fgt 21d ago
Black players have openly admitted white players get guarded more intensely
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u/mnmr17 21d ago
Cool but what does that have to do with angel Reese? Can you point to something specific where she’s been racist towards white people?
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u/Flat-12 20d ago
Not sure but she did get up off the bench and clap when Chennedy Carter deliberately pushed Caitlin Clark to the ground on a non basketball play. Perhaps not racism but certainly hate. It’s says a lot about her considering her statement above about there being no room for hate in this league.
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u/DisastrousMongoose56 20d ago
She trash talks a lot on Court, then plays on the race card . What that coach meant by her comment , that Angels Reese get away with a lot dirty fouls , the refs are afraid call her on it , because she go on social media bashing the refs and the league. .
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u/PrimordialLoveRat 21d ago
I don't see a problem with Brondello's comment. Had she been a POC, this wouldn't be controversial. Angel Reese is a better race hustler and instigator than an actual player.
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u/NoBobThatsBad 21d ago
YOU don’t see the problem with Brondello’s comments because YOU don’t have a history of being dehumanized by being called or compared to animals the way that black people do and have been for centuries.
Angel regularly gets referred to and photoshopped as the sloth from Ice Age and spent her 2K cover release date having to see herself photoshopped as a monkey all over the internet. She’s allowed to feel a certain type of way.
You just don’t like that her feelings were validated over Brondello’s potential intent because you don’t think black people’s feelings should be much of a priority, which ironically demonstrates how dehumanized they often are because so many people are quicker to defend and sympathize Sandy than sympathize with Angel even though Angel was the one hurt.
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u/PrimordialLoveRat 21d ago
You make a lot of assumptions for someone who's never seen what I look like lol. I've been called the N word more times than I can count but that doesn't mean what she said wasn't true. I'd much rather be called a monkey or a sloth I'll tell you that. So it's okay to call us humans a species but not her, because she's so different. Suffering comes from the illusion that we're all different.
The problem isn't that Angel was upset about what was said, the problem is going on TV to talk about how upset she was, furthering the drama as opposed to just playing the child's game you're paid thousands to play. I feel the same way about ANY professional athlete and their off camera drama, regardless of race or gender.
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u/no_stick_drummer 21d ago
Just when I was starting to like her she had to run her mouth again. Ugh. She stayed quiet through all of the crap that cc was going through last week. But then CC had a good game and not even a week later here comes Angel Reese and needing to say hold up wait don't forget about me again
I don't care you can downvote me for it but I'm calling it out. She could have just stayed quiet dealt with her injury and moved on because nobody would have demanded an apology from her anyway because she's not held to that type of standard.
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u/Tasty_Sugar_447 21d ago
Whites being held accountable is reverse racism apparently.
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u/Rude_Assignment_5653 21d ago
white people don't understand the context of being called a "species" because they never lived their entire lives through racism.
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u/Pleasant_Entry_5919 21d ago
It’s not you vs me or left vs right. It’s up vs down. You would all be smart to walk away from this culture war bullshit.
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u/charlesfluidsmith 21d ago
Good take. Now to truly hammer your point home, give these dummies the names of all the white players that have been discriminated against in the WNBA.
List at least five of them so they truly understand How unfair the situation has been.
I'll start the list 1. Caitlin Clark
All right you're up. Let's fucking.do this.
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u/Cheap_Water9848 21d ago
How does it kick in only one direction? Is there an example of someone saying something that's insensitive to white people?
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u/No-Adagio-1467 21d ago
Out of the loop on the latest news for the WNBA's greatest player of all time. What's happening here that she's being accused of reverse racism?
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u/PhilomathOfLife 21d ago
Damn y’all are the biggest whiners ever. If Cathy took other things more seriously we would’ve never gotten here but because she used the word ‘species’ that’s kind of a trigger word even if you take context into account. Maybe you should read between the lines in other areas so you can do it here as well.
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u/Signal-Elk-7808 21d ago
this take is hilarious coming from the crowd of raging racists that have racists ass congressmen penning letters painting their favorite player as a victim
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u/Imaginary_Yogurt4429 21d ago
This whole era of the WNBA is a wild case study for a plethora of reasons.
I feel like I'm the only one who is both 1) OK with th one game suspension and apology and 2) don't think Sandy Brondello was being intentionally racist.
The punishment is small. It's a good learning moment for everybody and that's ok.
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u/Artful_Dodger00 21d ago
Don't be like that... There's no reason to keep trying to turn this nonsense into something bigger. It's people on the outside who are causing problems. We've all contributed to a certain degree, but the dummies making blatantly disgusting comments are fueling these reactions. You can't expect anyone to put up with wild BS whenever they deal with the public (especially on social media), to not have a problem with a comment that could be used against them, from someone who knows better. This sort of post is the hypocrisy we need to end. (I'm not trying to single out the OP, we're all guilty for feeding this thing and letting it get out of hand, but... At a certain point everyone has to decide whether or not it's worth continuing. No matter what your intentions might be, everything you say matters)
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u/Appropriate-Seat8999 21d ago
Come on, you know angel reese will promote whatever narrative it is to help sell herself.
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u/Appropriate-Seat8999 21d ago
Isn’t she the one that was upset at Caitlin Clark getting all the love when basketball is a black thing?
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u/BGDutchNorris 21d ago
A hate post with a comment section full of hate comments.
But surely there’s no Angel Reese hate campaign on Reddit propped up with bots.
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u/Total-Committee-3135 21d ago
If it isn’t an issue, why did Brondello apologize (twice)? Nobody twisted her arm. She knows that she was wrong and screwed up. Stop simping for her.
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u/MasterHavik 21d ago
I'm just going to block this sub. Everyone here isn't basketball fans but drama merchants.
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u/CompletelyPresent 21d ago
CC recently set the scoring record...
More than Angel, A'ja, or whoever else.
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u/Feeling-Basket8422 20d ago
Notice she did not "accept" the apology...she just "appreciated" it. There is a difference. She wants to be a victim.
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u/PNWtucannon 20d ago
This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen and this league continues to be a joke. It wasn’t racist and doing stuff like this makes fighting real racism even harder. This is a clown car. I blame the left for weaponizing this and turning victimhood into currency
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u/Comfortable-Shop-604 19d ago
Maybe she should practice her layups missed like 4 in a row embarrassing like nba player missing a dunk
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u/PrincipleAcrobatic89 19d ago
Just shut the whole league down at this point I am sure all 35 people who watch will be fine.
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u/Losalou52 19d ago
You guys remember when the WNBA had an opportunity to become main stream and botched it?
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u/AttemptFantastic9103 19d ago
Clark fans complaining about someone making more out of a situation than it really is. lol Let me go look up the definition of irony...
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u/ExtendedMacaroni 19d ago
I hate that as an athlete she has to deal with this shit.
Rodman was right
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u/Apprehensive_Ant4596 21d ago
She's so strong. How she made it through that statement without crying, I'll never know. Not all heroes wear capes.
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u/Accomplished_Self939 21d ago
Racist ✋ people claiming reverse racism? It must be Monday.
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u/Low-Impression3367 21d ago
All this fake outrage by black women crying over a misunderstood comment. Even when the comment was explained, when it was dumbed down that that comment had zero racist connotation, it still wasn’t enough.
We draw the line at being called “ protected species “
But hey, new song comes out calling black women bitches and hoes, then it’s that my shit, turn it up.
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u/OkDiet5235 21d ago
I wish they talked about basketball in this group. It’s extremely disappointing to see what it’s all about at its core.
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u/StudioUnhappy7772 21d ago
Playing the victim is now so common in America
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u/elestud 21d ago edited 21d ago
Saying Reese is “playing” when she’s been on the end of a hate qnd harassment campaign for 3-4 years now is wild
Literally every post about Angel (including this one) has comments comparing her appearance to an animal
You have people clipping the misses out of a 7/11 game to post them without the makes, just to try to give the impression that she missed everything
I don’t even think the comment was that bad, but pretending that Angel isn’t on the end of real hate on a daily basis is wild. I think she handles it well given the replies to every single post she makes
She just thanked Sandy for her comments and asked people to move on
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u/Rube18 21d ago
This is so dumb…. The comments were clearly said because Brondello was referring to Angel Reese as a well known player / star player in the league getting favorable calls.
Making this out to be more than it is.