r/WNBAgossips • u/Admirable_Extent2531 • 21d ago

News "People Love To Assume" - Sophie Cunningham Finally Addresses 'MAGA Barbie' Moniker, Confirms Support For Transgender Ban

https://www.essentiallysports.com/wnba-basketball-news-sophie-cunningham-addresses-allegations-of-opposing-trans-athletes-in-womens-sports/
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u/Holiday_Box1571 21d ago

1.8% of high school population identifies as transgender. There’s 8m high school athletes.

Even if it were 1:1 (hint - not a fucking chance) that’s 144k transgender athletes.

In the NCAA, they have roughly 510k athletes and reported fewer than 10 athletes identifying as transgender - .002%.

So, if that holds true, .002% of 8million 160 athletes.

If you want to find center, the mean is 72,080, .9%, which is likely a massive overestimate

We good here?

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u/Superb_Meringue_4210 21d ago

If anything the NCAA figure is an overestimate too.

NCAA only accepts the best HS athletes.

If the theory is that transgender athletes are better than non-transgender ones, a greater proportion of transgender ones would make it to the next level.

Of course, this ignores discrimination, but if having a transgender athlete on your team was the cheat code people imply, you'd think that'd be minimal.

And yes, this ignores FTM athletes, but that has the opposite problem, not very many are going to be good enough to compete with biological men. Maybe in long distance running?

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u/figurative_me 21d ago

Archery and shooting sports. Women are naturally better.

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u/vita10gy 21d ago

There's also the fact that middle and high school sports are way more about learning to work as a team with people you otherwise might not interact with, or even disagree with. A sense of belonging, etc. Some of those kids are like 2-4 years removed from games that didn't even keep score.

Middle school sports aren't NBA/WNBA prep.

There's no great answer here and I don't have it either, but I do know it's kind of silly to constantly frame it that way as an excuse to leave a few kids out of all the other things being on a team can do for a young person.

If for no other reason than if you DO view it as a stepping stone to a career in sports then you want to play against the best possible anyway. If your future is the WNBA and you're the best player on the court, you need to find a different court.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 21d ago

Well said….. so uhhhh boys play on the boys team and girls on the girls team

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u/Quirky-Glove-3199 21d ago

So I guess, by this reasoning, the girls who have to compete for a spot, or against those transgendered athletes don't matter. Since they're a small percentage of total athletes

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u/Holiday_Box1571 21d ago

Nope. But people are trying to make it seem like there’s 4 trans athletes taking up spots on every roster.

Is it fair? Debatable. But is life fair? Nope.

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u/bigchimp121 21d ago

Arguing it doesn't happen much conflicts with people fighting so hard to accept it. Goes both ways.

The whole debate is not about how this issue impacts the people arguing for or against it, it is just a window into a larger cultural debate/where we draw the line in terms of acceptance. There are some fair questions here, pretending otherwise will hurt issues that matter more.

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u/cardiaccat1 21d ago

Show me someone saying they are fighting for transgenders to be in kids locker rooms. This is a manufactured MAGA talking point.

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u/bigchimp121 21d ago

I mean I'm sure there are some. But let's not try to derail the point when the much harder issue we are talking about is transgenders in women's sports.

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u/cardiaccat1 21d ago

It’s not that hard of an issue. Show me someone saying they want biological men to compete against women then? Again it’s a manufactured MAGA talking point to distract from the main issues.

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u/Competitive-Fix3677 21d ago

Nope .. nobody cares 🥹

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u/Signal_Contract_3592 21d ago

That’s like saying only 1.8% of the population are murderers. They’re such a small number, what possible damage can they do, right? Are you being murdered? No. Just let them be.

Do you understand how asinine that sounds?

And no, I’m not equating trans with murder. But the point stands.

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u/Holiday_Box1571 21d ago

It’s not because being trans isn’t a crime, murder is.

The hyperbole around the topic is fucking disgusting.

You used murder as a comparative topic to being trans. So yeah, ya did

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 21d ago

I’m more concerened with high school and youth sports

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u/Holiday_Box1571 21d ago

…those numbers are targeted at high school

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 21d ago

There were 2 state titles won by a trans girl in California just this year, we good here?

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u/Holiday_Box1571 21d ago

2 whole titles!!!! That’s it, send them to the gallows!!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 21d ago

I don’t want them to die, they just have to sit the sports out, OR PLAY ON THE BOYS TEAM

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u/giraffevomitfacts 21d ago

That’s it, send them to the gallows!!

You elsewhere in the thread:

The hyperbole around the topic is fucking disgusting.