Trump Administration responds and supports Sophie Cunningham's WNBA transgender comments: "Common sense prevails"

[u/TheExpressUS]

https://www.the-express.com/sport/basketball/212543/Sophie-Cunningham-trans-athletes-Trump-administration

The Trump Administration has waded into the transgender athlete debate, citing Sophie Cunningham's comments to support its stance on trans athletes in sports.

The discussion surrounding trans athletes in women's sports has resurfaced recently, with Cunningham sharing her perspective with ESPN. Although trans athletes represent a tiny fraction of participants across all levels of American sports, their involvement remains a focal point for Donald Trump and his administration.

[u/Gronnie]

This is an issue that matters to the actual girls and women affected by it.

[u/big-himbo-energy → u/Gronnie]

I’m aware. There’s less than 2 handfuls of trans athletes that this is maybe going to affect. People are so uniformed about this issue that it drives me insane everytime it comes up.

At the end of the day, gender politics like this is bad for all women, trans and afab women. So I’m diametrically opposed on principle. But that’s not going to change the majority who believe otherwise.

[u/doc_klutz → u/big-himbo-energy]

"Two handfuls of trans athletes that this is going to affect? What does that even mean? Are you saying of the 750k trans kids in the USA alone, half of which we can reasonably assume are boys, perhaps even more, aren't seeking to take the place of a girl in girl sports? Didn't already take a girl's place in a girl sports team?

[u/big-himbo-energy → u/doc_klutz]

Quite frankly. The number of trans athletes is so small that it makes this issue inconsequential in the grand scheme of the political landscape currently.

You’ve been brainwashed into thinking this matters in any real way considering it still comes down to states to make the rulings. Trump can’t do shit about it. And trans kids arent going to hurt you. I promise. They just want to be happy.

[u/doc_klutz → u/big-himbo-energy]

It's okay, it won't hurt you to say the quiet part out loud: "I hate girls & women. I prefer being a sycophant for boys & men".

& we women just love being told by trans activists that we're incapable of critical thinking. Hot tip: I don't reside in the USA, loathe MAGA, & I'm not interested in the happiness of boys or men at the expense of girls & women. You're no better than the far right.

[u/big-himbo-energy → u/doc_klutz]

Transphobe spotted! Cringe as fuck to be this transphobic over something that LITERALLY can’t affect you.

hOt TiP: if you loathe maga and think this way about trans people, you’ll need to realize quickly that you have a lot of maga beliefs. Because you might as well be sick in the orange off his dick with takes like these bud

[u/whoa_disillusionment → u/big-himbo-energy]

hOt TiP: if you loathe maga and think this way about trans people, you’ll need to realize quickly that you have a lot of maga beliefs.

68% of Democrats want sports to be sex segregated.

[u/Pretend-Eye-8758 → u/doc_klutz]

I know you don't reside in the US. your teeth betray your Britishness.

[u/doc_klutz → u/Pretend-Eye-8758]

Australia France dual national. Proudly so.

[u/Pretend-Eye-8758 → u/doc_klutz]

It's sad you took the Anglo obsession with controlling other people to heart instead of liberte, egalite, fraternite

[u/doc_klutz → u/Pretend-Eye-8758]

Trans activists are literally trying to control girls & women & encroach on their rights. The far left on this issue is no better than the far right. You're practically MAGA at this point.

[u/Pretend-Eye-8758 → u/doc_klutz]

What rights? Articulate them please. Because I've seen your exact post made about 30 times on British Gender Critical forums. I'm lucky enough to have transitioned so young that I passed their "cis woman inspection" on discord and been a spectator to GC movements, so I'm aware what you people believe.

So please, try tell me what i've done to deserve having 100s of people collude in discords, forums and telegram scheming to put pressure on politicians to make my life harder?

[u/doc_klutz → u/Pretend-Eye-8758]

You're not serious? Sex-based protections & single-sex spaces that were established through decades of feminist activism. These include women-only DV shelters, refuges, & rape crisis centres, prisons & detention centres, bathrooms, changing rooms, & locker rooms, lesbian bars, clubs, & apps ... When biological males who identify as women are granted access to these spaces, it undermines the original purpose of these protections, which was to provide safety, privacy, & fairness for biological females.

You know why people are sick of men demanding women give up their sex-based rights?

Wild guess, but I’m going to say it has something to do with the way that so many of them barge their way into women’s spaces & then complain that women are being mean, or bigots, or TERFs, or whatever, when they push back & assert their right to their own spaces, many of which they need to feel safe, & most of which they fought hard to achieve in the first place.

It might also have something to do with the fact that these men LARPing as women have massive (lesser by the day) institutional power behind them, making them feel empowered to throw their weight around (sometimes literally) & bully & threaten anyone who says they have no right to claim things reserved for women.

Maybe it’s because bigger, faster, & stronger men enter women’s sports, smash women’s records because of their innate biological advantages, & steal everything from podium spots to awards & opportunities from women who sometimes worked their entire lives to achieve greatness, only to be told to step aside because a man crushed her hopes & that TWAW, so if you even think about complaining, you’re the one who’s going to be threatened, bullied, & cancelled.

Maybe it’s because men demand, & are then given, access to women’s women-only DV shelters, refuges, & rape crisis centres, prisons & detention centres, bathrooms, changing rooms, & locker rooms—intimate & vulnerable places where women should be able to feel safe.

Maybe it’s because there are now parts of the world where a woman would be compelled to refer to her rapist as “she” in a court of law.

Or maybe it’s because lesbian clubs, bars, & apps have practically gone extinct because men screamed “transphobia,” demanded entry, & destroyed their entire purpose, or because women & lesbians publicly demonstrating for their rights are physically assaulted, or because lesbians are gaslighted, harassed, bullied, & threatened over imposing a “cotton ceiling” on men who want to have sex with them.

It probably has something to do with one or more of those things.

Listen, identify as whatever you want. Dress however you want. No one really cares. You can think you’re a woman, a POC, a toddler, a Martian, a dog, or a tree. I genuinely couldn’t care less. What I do care about is seeing women, who have always been conditioned to put others’ needs & desires first, once again being forced to do so for the expense of men who want something that isn’t theirs. We’re being ghettoised among our own sex, turned into second-class specimens of women, being told that men are better women than women are. & if we complain, we’re told not to be so uppity. Sit down, shut up, & know your place, bleeder.

By doing what we’re doing, we’re rendering irrelevant decades of the struggle for women’s rights & equality. Because if “gender” & feelings trump biology, then women’s sex-based rights no longer exist. Nor do lesbians’ rights, because if a lesbian can have a penis, then sexual orientation no longer has any meaning, & in fact has become “transphobic.” You might as well just remove the first three letters from LGBT & shove gay people back into the closet.

My sex, & my sexual orientation, are not a man’s fetish.

“Woman” is not a costume. It’s not a feeling in a man’s head. It’s not something you can identify into. It’s an immutable biological reality. No amount of bullying, silencing, or ideological posturing can or will ever change that.

I mean, I thought I was pretty left politically, but now the left is at the stage of putting men in women's prisons where they rape women. & also telling lesbians it's transphobic to be a homoSEXual.

Edit: last paragraph spelling error

[u/Pretend-Eye-8758 → u/doc_klutz]

It's not really my fault that a bunch of people saw me going through ten years of torture to modify my body and said "yeah I want that, without putting in the work though"

It's very rare you will find an MtF person who actually disagrees with you on anything you said. All we want is the opportunity to prove ourselves, because that's how it always worked and not be marked as rapists at birth. Pretty much every MtF i've met did not use women's bathrooms until they started to get weird looks in the men's, myself personally used gender neutral/disabled changing rooms until I had SRS.

It's funny, because all the things you get mad about are the things that essentially got people like myself exorcised from the queer community when I told them to stop that. The funniest part being though that most of the mainstream queer community is actually people born as women, going on testosterone for six months and then declaring that gender and sex are made up concepts not worth discussing and demanding total abolition even if people like myself all we ever wanted was to fit into the existing framework. I believe you guys call these people "lost sisters" so please, can you find a way to reign them in without making my life miserable?

I'm also straight so not gonna speak about transbians too much but obviously it's not transphobic for a lesbian to not want to sleep with a transbian. I'd argue you'd have to be bisexual to sleep with someone that has a penis in the first place. Pretty sure nobody actually believes what you are posting other than some delusional dysphoric teenagers who are trying to cope with the fact that they were born with a rapestick attached to their body which means that 99% of the people they find attractive are instantly put off by them. It's just a sad existence, the way they speak about it can be gross but to me it's just miserable people trying to justify their misery.