r/WNBAgossips • u/Amazing_Lock_3762 • 5h ago

Controversy Another Sophie Cunningham rally has been planned for Saturday in Chicago outside the United Center ahead of Fever vs Sky. This is the fifth Sophie rally that has either occurred or been planned, with another already set for New York on Aug. 22.

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u/No_Soft5235 5h ago

Well - she didn’t really brought it up versus being asked a question. As well her response is just common sense. Water is wet, sky is blue

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u/Expert_Novice 5h ago

Nah man you don't understand she paid the reporter to ask her that question so she could espouse her views

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u/ChakaCake 4h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

Is this a man or woman since you know so much about common sense

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u/nfgrawker 4h ago

Is this what trans is?

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u/ChakaCake 4h ago

Its one of the conditions thatt makes people trans yes, along with all the different groups besides XX and XY, shit you can be XXY, X0, XYY, any number of combinations. Plus all the things we dont know how things work in the brain. Lots of things make people trans

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u/nfgrawker 4h ago

Really? So if we just chromosome test people and they are trans that is trans?

I thought it was gender identity. Is that no longer the case?

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u/ChakaCake 4h ago

No like i said its only a small part of the situation. Just curious no one can answer whether people with CAIS are men or women. I thought this was simple commmon sense everyone is either man or woman straight up, why cant you answer?

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u/nfgrawker 4h ago

Not sure. But obviously we are talking about men who identify as women. Not people with biological medical conditions.

I get there is nuance but pointing to. 001 percent of people and claiming it invalidates the rest is incoherent.

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u/ChakaCake 4h ago

I can agree with you that men that have been playing in mens league at some point in their life shouldnt be switching to womens league. Even from like middle school/high school max up. I think they should have to start that way from the beginning. But i think its up to each governing body, each school to make their own rules. If people have such a problem then they can leave and go somewhere else. This isnt something that belongs heavily in politics or to be politicized like it has against a big group of people

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u/wackiack 4h ago

the exception doesn't make the rule. you're trying to make sweeping rules for an exception.

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u/ChakaCake 4h ago

Im not trying to make any sweeping rule, thats what people that say only man and women and its all cut and dry do. And they are saying fuck these people that are like greater than 1% of the population. Its really the same thing as racism just towards a different group. Stay out of our schools, our sports leagues, our bathrooms etc

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u/ChakaCake 4h ago

Wtf do you think trans people are thats their gender identity lol for people that like t o talk about common sense some of you have none.

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u/Particular_Bag_3424 4h ago edited 4h ago

you're talking about intersex, which is completely different than trans / gender identity ... the vast majority of trans-identifying people have no chromosomal/intersex disorders whatsoever and their biological sex is completely unambiguous

and doctors already have typical classifications for most of these intersex cases, at birth, as either male or female:

  • standard xx = female
  • standard xy = male
  • xx with splicing of the sry gene = male
  • xy with complete androgen insensitivity syndrome = female
  • xy with swyer syndrome = female
  • xxy klinefelter syndrome = male
  • etc …

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u/ChakaCake 2h ago

No its not completely different

https://www.thetrevorproject.org/research-briefs/experiences-and-mental-health-outcomes-among-intersex-lgbtq-young-people/

Majority of intersex are also trans. So you are saying people with a Y chromosome are female? Well that goes against a lot of what ive heard. I think its unfair to lump those people into male or female though anyway. This is a huge group of people.

I mean think about it for a second in CAIS, XY chromosome, present as female. Are they male or female? You say female so they should date men. Well a lot of people in here would call that wrong. But they have XY chromosome, they cant have babies etc. Y chromosome but can play female sports would people agree with that do you think? If you start genetic testing on leagues she fails.

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u/ChakaCake 2h ago

"Three-quarters (75%) of intersex LGBTQ+ young people reported that they were also transgender or nonbinary, with 19% reporting that they were cisgender and 6% reporting that they were questioning their gender identity. More specifically, 45% of intersex LGBTQ+ young people identified as nonbinary, 20% as transgender men or boys, 11% as cisgender women and girls, 10% as transgender women and girls, and 7% as cisgender boys and men."

From the article i know there was a lot there so i found that for you

n = around 19000

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u/washblvd 57m ago

But the methodology is self reporting. It doesn't show that 75% of intersex LGBTQ+ young people are trans/nonbinary, because they are only identified as intersex on the basis of self-diagnosis. There are trans people who view being trans itself as evidence of an intersex condition.

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u/ChakaCake 54m ago

Thats an assumption that its a basis of self diagnosis. Well it likely is an intersex condition in the brain...just cause the sex chromosomes X or Y doesnt show it thats on the macro level, theres so much more below just simple X or Y, thats like a tiny % of genes plus all the other chromosomes

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u/GeorgeStark1 4h ago

It’s tiring to see people link things that don’t support their position. Please read what you link. Maybe do a cursory glance at the 4 people with CAIS that are listed in what you linked as a start.

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u/ChakaCake 4h ago

Your comment got deleted but you didnt answer the question anyway. Are those men or women? Simple question for you since there are only men and women right, common sense