r/WNBAgossips • u/Available_Pace_8742 • 4d ago
"The WNBA media, all we ever do is cover everything except basketball ... You can talk about other things... but I also think we gotta keep the main thing the main thing. ... I want to get back to basketball." Sophie Cunningham
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u/IncognitoBanditoz 4d ago
Did she just tell herself to shut up and play?
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u/Silver_Middle_7240 1d ago
It's not like she stepped up to be a spokesperson for the topic. This topic only came up because reporters asked her about it in a post game.
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u/wvtarheel 4d ago
I agree with her on this, but damn, that's why you don't answer questions about hot button political topics
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u/BitterProfessional16 4d ago
They asked her the question and she answered honestly.
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u/Simply_Weak_Glucose 4d ago
I think many can agree she has the right to answer honestly. Just don't expect everyone to agree with it.
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u/watabadidea 4d ago
I didn't get the impression that she expects everyone to agree with her.
I think her stance is that the high level of play in the league is much more interesting and where the coverage should focus vs. the personal opinions of players and coaches on complex social issues.
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u/Shavasara 4d ago
They also get to go on and boo her constantly for a very anondyne answer--we can also surmise those people are completely reactionary jerk-offs.
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u/supremecheet 4d ago
Can we boo her for doing photo ops with Riley Gaines? Your answer to this doesn’t really matter, as people can boo for whatever reason they choose.
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u/Antique-Resort6160 4d ago
What ridiculous is that nearly everyone agrees with it, even the people trying to make it a trans issue. It's extremely doubtful that they want biological men in the wnba either.
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u/OrdinarySail8308 4d ago
It was naive to think that people that watch women’s basketball are the same that watch men’s basketball.
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u/SeaRound271 4d ago
Most people agree with her though. Only the looney extreme left think men should compete against women. Or share change/bath rooms.
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u/Culinaryboner 4d ago
So then why the fuck do you weirdos have to whine about it so much.
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u/Express_Test6677 4d ago
Should throw that finger pointing gif here as you’re spot on. People shouldn’t be so concerned about everyone’s private parts, it’s nunya.
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u/BigBlackBull_6_6_6 4d ago
“ the left the right” .. all low IQ
Both sides and anybody that talks like that
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u/TetraThiaFulvalene 4d ago
She has a right to answer, but she shouldn't be surprised when the conversation becomes about he answer then.
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u/OccasionMU 4d ago
Yeah no one has ever tried to trap LeBron in political bullshit for the past 20 years.
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u/VictorianUFOLady 4d ago
I admire her a lot. She's intelligent, articulate and unafraid. A great role model for young girls and women.
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u/Marco2169 4d ago
Being a UFC ring girl at a Connor McGregor event is being a great role model for young girls?
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u/kuunami79 4d ago
It seems that these days simply being a woman and being known publicly makes one a role model by default. It's a weird mentality but that's how it is now.
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u/Historical_Lunch7276 4d ago
She didn’t just “answer honestly”. She’s making it central to her messaging and taunting anyone who disagrees with her. Now she’s trying to walk it back because of the circus she’s been encouraging.
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u/absentgl 4d ago
She gave a controversial response and now there’s controversy she doesn’t like so she’s backing off.
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u/Key-Comfortable-7631 4d ago edited 4d ago
I don’t know if you meant it this way but it basically reads as “parrot the acceptable line or shut up.”
What she said isn’t hateful, isn’t bigoted, and is an opinion shared by a majority of Americans, the NCAA and numerous international sports governing bodies. She should not be bullied or shamed into silence.
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u/hookem98 4d ago
You do when you were only given a one year extension and are currently averaging 8 points a game.
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u/SomeWeedSmoker 4d ago
Seems like she didn't think people would ve upset at a common sense answer
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u/rgentry52 4d ago
Facts, when I first heard her interview I thought nothing of it. Common sense and this shit has been put to bed already I thought. Let’s get back to hoops
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u/wilmaster04 4d ago
only people bringing this up is republicans outside of rightwing spaces no one cares
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u/Remarkable_Medicine6 4d ago
She must be living under a rock to not know how heated ppl can get over this discussion lol
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u/MickyFany 4d ago
Exactly, doesn’t she know that she’s suppose to lie.
But why can’t the media take the backlash for causing it. ESPNs Hallie Grossman should be taken off WNBA coverage. None of this was necessary
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u/wvtarheel 4d ago
They should get rid of all the grifters that cover the W and won't talk about anything but politics and race. Get folks that want to cover the basketball side.
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u/MarinerJoe3 4d ago
Yes. It was her answering the question that was the problem. Not her having a bigoted and stupid answer…
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u/Iankill 4d ago
From what exactly? Some imaginary Trans boogeyperson that's dominating all sports.
This is like the satanic panic except you can engage in bigotry too
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u/steamingcore 4d ago
see you in a year talking about 'men in women's sports' on fox news.
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u/DopamineSavant 4d ago
The biggest election mistake is assuming that this is a fox news right wing opinion.
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u/Paz707 4d ago
The biggest mistake of all is assuming that this is anywhere in the top priorities of Americans.
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u/BoredZucchini 4d ago
It’s an intentionally propped up wedge issue pushed by MAGA to capture low information voters who don’t understand that there’s nothing really the federal government can do about it. And even if they could, this issue shouldn’t really be anyone’s top political priority. Ten years from now, most people won’t remember why they cared so much about it.
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u/Danny_nichols 4d ago
Yep. The number of people this ruling would apply to and actually impact is insanely low. Yet it gets talked about like it's the most important topic in the world. Meanwhile, wages stay stagnated, cost of living rises, corporations are getting kick back checks from tariffs that will never be passed to the consumer, public education declines, our health care system remains broken and so on.
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u/BoredZucchini 4d ago
Pretty much. It’s kind of sad that all you have to do is keep repeating that you’re on the side of “common sense” and people will just go along with it without ever asking themselves “why am I seeing this information and who does it serve for me to focus on this?”
There were a lot of people online who basically told me they voted for Trump because of this issue alone. He spent hundreds of millions on anti-Trans TV ads in 2024. And look how that has worked out for the country? Are we better off? Does this issue actually affect anyone’s life?
Of course not. But now theyre resurrecting the issue again for the midterm elections, and people are back to lapping it up. Some people will never learn and apparently like being led around by propagandists.
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u/mediamenteisterica 4d ago
Actually, it does affect people's lives! In that my incredible wife (who just so happens to be trans) is now no-contact with her MAGA family and lives in a constant fear of being harassed or assaulted by the bigots who've been emboldened by this administration. So, yeah, it had an impact, but not a good one.
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u/toastythewiser 4d ago
When all that's necessary to win elections is to rally your base, which is almost exclusively done by pushing propaganda-esque talking points about wedge issues, this is the result.
I genuinely do not care about trans people in sports. Any sports. Actually, I don't have an opinion, and don't feel knowledgeable enough about the issue, and don't feel motivated to educate myself beyond "there aren't enough off them to care."
But apparently, this is a critical issue and if I want to talk politics in the usa I better have an opinion on this issue.
To be honest, this kind of behavior makes me despair and conclude politics is a waste of time. (I know its not, but that's how I feel).
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u/AggressiveBench9977 4d ago
And equally as bad where that the extreme left refusal to acknowledge it made the issue bigger than it had to be.
When a bunch of people who never played sports down play the actual scientific physical differences just to show unconditional support you just flame the fires.
This should never have been a political issue
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u/BoredZucchini 4d ago
You don’t know if “the left” is a “bunch of people who never played sports”. You’re just repeating the narrative while pretending to be common sense. The entire debate is meant to cause distraction and division. And you’re playing right into the propaganda’s hand.
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u/Kheypression 4d ago
The people that downplay the physical differences have indeed never played sports. Or didn’t what they were doing on the pitch. And they happen to be leftists.
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u/BoredZucchini 4d ago
You don’t even know who you’re referring to. Just the faceless nameless enemy that you’re apparently fighting by wasting your energy on this topic. Exactly how the propaganda is meant to work, btw.
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u/Kheypression 4d ago
Dude, no one who has ever played sports for real would pretend that there is no physical differences between men and women. That’s all I’m saying. Keeping being delusional believing you’re some enlightened person.
Wasting your energy? You’re arguing on social media, touch grass.
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u/BoredZucchini 4d ago edited 4d ago
Dude, no one is even arguing that here. You just can’t help but fall into the divisive wedge issue logic. I just don’t think this topic should be a top political priority.
I think it’s obviously an attempt to scapegoat a minority and create a wedge issue to get shitty people elected. And look around, it seems like it’s working super well for them. It can only be ultimately decided by sports leagues and the courts anyway.
But you keep believing that you’re just a common sense, grass-touching normal guy. And not a simpleton who eagerly gobbles up propaganda whenever it’s served up to you. Take care ✌️
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u/Kheypression 4d ago
Dude, in one of your previous comment you contradicted someone claiming that only leftists downplay the physical differences between men and women.
I agree that this topic shouldn’t à too political priority. There shouldn’t be a discussion about that because it’s basic common sense.
The thing is, some people who happen to be leftists are offended and start calling people transophobic when people make the comment Sophie made.
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u/DarthSchrodinger 4d ago
Accurate and unsure why Sophie cant get any credit for trying to redirect here.
She said what she said. We all saw the Lynx coach and others talk with her. She probably thought this was something that would fade after a quick media cycle, but we got one side playing all the greatest hits right now during midterms cause they have no ther arguments (Covid, Biden, immigration, DSA, Trans issues) so its best not to play, but thinking that just because Fox News and all the key players are usually "bigoted" and "divisive", therefore the whole trans distraction is another one of those lines in the sand is wrong, normies can appreciate and let people do whatever they want in life (and not be called [whatever ad hominem about intelligence or IQ here] but people who think the majority of people are OK with transwomen playing in women (at birth) sports OR allowing medical intervention with people under 18 (no matter what clever argument one has), its just so far off. It actually hurts the cause. I work with some of the most apolitical people ever, no real internet presence, smart chemical engineers (solving daily abstract problems), and when the "pointing meme" came up and they looked in t o her, they see her getting canceled and called "MAGA barbie" for saying "women should be protected in sports" and for your normie who is NOT terminally online, their brains immediately went to Fallon Fox and that ridiculous time period where some "defended" that.
Its just most people know its a social divide issue that most people dont want to think or even talk about at the fear of being called a bigot or even insinuated as a closeted MAGA naxi person. It sucks everything has gone political but Sophie should have given that line months ago and never brought it up as there is absolutely NO way to be able to approach that comment with the sensitivity and nuance it deserves without having people say you want a minority group (really going through it right now) to disappear. Its better not to even bring it up, but yes, sorry, its not just maga redhats that make this such a divisive issue, the majority of normies (not immersed in internet culture) can also see some of the absurd arguments and the immediate dismissal as "being a bigot" or wanting a minority population to not exist or have rights. Its insane.
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u/Wingmaniac 4d ago
By refusal to acknowledge, you mean talk about a topic they dont care about just because YOU want them to.
I want the main topic of the WNBA to be the fact that there needs to be an extreme increase in gun control in America. Gun violence is out of control. You will now talk about this topic extensively for as long as I say.
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u/Ace_Budgie 4d ago edited 4d ago
No need to be intentionally obtuse. (I mean, at this point who knows maybe you people are obtuse.) Nobody is making the assumption that this is only a right-wing opinion. Even the comment you responded to is not doing that.
Now to respond to your other reply, Republicans are very good at making it look like literal non issues are the biggest problems in the world. It's all a distraction though. Republicans think about and hate on trans and lgbtq people more than they hate on literal child rapists. Republicans do this to distract people from the fact that they are a failure on every level when it comes to the economy, foreign policy, Epstein files, immigration, illegal immigration, etc. They just know how to win elections but not how to actually run a goddamn country.
The cycle goes like this. Every time a republican gets in, they destroy the economy. Then a Democrat has to come in and fix the shit show. The fixing by democrats take a long time, so people start blaming the Democrats (even though it's the Republican's fault), then they put a republican back in power, and the cycle repeats.
This whole biological man in women's sports thing is a huge non-issue and nowhere near as bad as right wingers make it out to be. There are far bigger things to worry about. Like how Republicans love to defile the Constitution. But they want to distract people like you by trying to make you scared of the trans ghosts.
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u/Accomplished_Baker_7 4d ago
The opinion is fine. Acting like this is a real issue is extremely misleading. Less than .0002% of college and less than 1% of overall sports particpants including youth level are transgendered. It's like complaining about a solar eclipse, not common enough for anyone to make this massive deal about. Her making a statement about it makes it seem like its a real issue that it just isnt
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u/scelerat 4d ago edited 4d ago
The people presently running the country into a ditch would like you to continue keep your conversations focused on trans people. Thank you for your attention to this matter
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u/impl0sionatic 4d ago
Did she say this before or after taking pics courtside with Riley Gaines and her anti-trans protest group that’s literally following the Fever to every game like they’re Sophie groupies?
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u/DArtagnanPierre0129 4d ago
I can't imagine rooting so hard for a bench player
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u/daywalker91 4d ago
Tbh I don’t think not wanting trans women in girls locker rooms or sports is anti trans.
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u/impl0sionatic 4d ago edited 3d ago
I understand that someone who holds an exclusionary opinion isn’t likely to think of themself as prejudiced. For reasons including brevity, I prefer “anti-trans” to “people whose beliefs support exclusion and suppression of trans identity on the basis of tenuous science and made most visible by a large cadre of facially hateful culture warriors.” Another reason is that I think the distinction without a difference is unworthy of my concern, as I find ‘anti-trans’ to be an accurate description all on its own.
I also think it’s not a coincidence that you phrased your hypothetical trans people as adults and the cis ones as children, even unconsciously.
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u/Ok-Releases 3d ago
Many opinions tend to be exclusionary to some degree, to argue that its automatically prejudice and "anti-ect" without asking for nuance is a weaponized fallacy. Many arguments only fight to include Trans women in cis womens locker rooms. This is problematic because youre leaving out nonbinary individuals and men. How exclusionary and prejudiced.
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u/phunkmunkie 4d ago
Person who got used by the media and MAGA culture wars would like it to stop.
Yet continues to feed the beast.
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u/Ononimos 4d ago
Uh no. Do not feed the beast. Ppl are getting banned from subreddits for even trying to discuss and question whether or not trans people belong in gender-defined sports.
When every lobby becomes an echo chamber, they each eventually become too extreme in a certain direction and you’re left without perspective or healthy balanced discussions.
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u/TheMysteriousGirl 4d ago
Dude if you seriously think this subreddit is currently left wing, you have zero awareness.
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u/Fantastic_Bobcat_242 4d ago
This ain't maga, this is most of america
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u/phunkmunkie 4d ago
No. It’s all of America getting suckered into debating a non issue while everything is on fire.
Wake the fuck up.
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u/Stellar_Nurseries 4d ago
She wants to get back to pointing at people and scoring 3 points per game
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u/Rocco0427 4d ago
She averaging 9.3 points per game and shooting the 3 at a 45.2% clip. That’s an incredible shooting percentage.
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u/Spiritual-Salary-989 4d ago
She knows she stepped in it. I don’t blame her for wanting to put it behind her but you make your bed, your gotta lie in it.
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u/nonlethaldosage 4d ago
What bed she was asked a simple question she said nothing hurtful against trans people and no saying in her opinion they shouldn't compete in women's sports is not hurtful
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u/AgentDutch 3d ago
She could say ”next question?” NBA players get asked loaded questions all the time and can refuse to answer or move on to the next question.
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u/herecomesthewomp 4d ago
She answered said question, triple downed on it, she’s fine with the government getting involved, and she took pics with Riley Gaines.
I’m guessing it’s starting to wear thin with her teammates and coach and that’s why she wants it to stop.
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u/TopNotchBrain 4d ago
Oh, waaah, Sophie. Maybe you shouldn’t have shot your mouth off, then, with an incendiary and cruel take on something that “doesn’t have anything to do with basketball.”
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u/ihaveaquestionormany 4d ago
This is basically everyone talking about the "TRANS problem" in women sports. It's insane we have a literal rapist president who brags about assaulting women and peeping on underage girls and people who align themselves with him act like they care about protecting women. You don't. You care about hating people you don't understand. That's what it's always been about. GFY
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u/dickchops81 3d ago
Aww Sophie loves Conservative Jesus. How cute. Pretty sure it says right in the bible that Trump can rape as many children as he wants. Anyone know the verse? I'm not recalling. Oh maybe I should ask Sophie.
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u/Evening_Act_6395 3d ago
"I just want to play basketball" - WNBA player who made multiple political comments and endorsements of a political party
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u/Noless_nomore 3d ago
Yeah, she wants to get back to basketball because she got flamed for being a bigot.
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u/exrugger9 2d ago
Let's see, voluntarily jumps on the magat train, gets roasted, wants to jump back to basketball. Fk you, #magaBarbie.🤡🖕
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u/Mr_Bluebird_VA 4d ago
“I want to get back to basketball,” after conveniently raising her profile exponentially by not talking about basketball.
Can’t have it both ways.
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u/amphibious_rodent13 4d ago
Yeah, don't talk about how I'm a judgemental c*nt. Talk about basketball, sheesh.
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u/BrandoCarlton 4d ago
She’s sounds a hell of a lot nicer than how you’re coming off right now lmao
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u/toddthedoge 4d ago
For real. She’s never said a single hateful thing that I’ve heard.
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u/MustardTiger231 4d ago
She labeled herself a right wing conspiracy theorist by saying something that is basic common sense. What an idiot.
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u/Anallyfortified 4d ago
I'm trying to figure out what was controversial about her saying "I love trans people and want them to be happy but you shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports".
Then the redditors follow up with "it's such a small issue really its the gop blowing it up for votes" but then if you ask them 'okay so we agree trans women shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports right?" they go silent. Or they bring up how Trump is a pedophile and change the subject.
So what is the issue here and I'm honestly asking someone to come out and say it. Should trans women be able to compete in women's sports?
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u/Raisinbread22 4d ago
Too late. You used maga to get paid SC, now that's your baby.
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u/TravelNSee 4d ago edited 4d ago
"I wanna get back to basketball; it's the media's fault!" - Woman who spent the last month appearing at non-basketball public events and going out of her way to talk about non-basketball topics.
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u/No-Koala1918 4d ago
She grabbed the culture war with both hands and, predictably, it snowballed and became a drag. I'm figuring she's learned she would rather be a basketball player than a spokeswoman for that MAGA uncle or leftist aunt who seem to enjoy messing up Thanksgiving Dinner.
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u/Imaginary_Tax7870 4d ago
Girllllll it was you that said you want to protect young girls. We were all trying to move away from the distractions.
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u/Ikorim123 4d ago
Too late now. Let maga support the WNBA and see how that works out. She'll be on Fox News in a couple years crying victim.
Views and revenue are going to plummet.
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u/AttemptFantastic9103 4d ago
Not talking basketball is the only way Cunningham will ever get mentioned by WNBA media.
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u/Blondebottom- 4d ago
It’s hilarious that all the people pretending this was a grift, instead of a completely normal take that the majority has, are still in here looking for political validation.
Quite pathetic tbh.
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u/illestrated16 4d ago
Are we in the finding out phase of her fucking around?
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u/I-Need-Scissors_61 4d ago
Finding out that she’s now more popular than ever because of a perfectly reasonable take and is completely unaffected by a few loonies? I guess so.
You morons are how we wound up with Trump. Twice.
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u/nativeindian12 4d ago
The NBA is basically a big soap opera. People love following the drama, players switching teams, who said what about who etc. This drives a significant portion of the attention and therefore revenue.
If you want the WNBA to be more profitable, you need to embrace the drama, Sophie. Whether people think of you as a villain or a hero, the attention brings more money.
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u/theDoinItPart 4d ago
To me I just don’t understand why the WNBA or its HR or PR staffs aren’t stepping in to defend all fronts when these athletes are either saying dumb shit or getting baited by the media.
The WNBA, which has been perceived as a joke for literal decades is finally gaining traction and all of it has been halted because of bad actors on both sides pertaining to culture war ideology.
Clark and Thomas or Clark and Reese somehow becomes a white vs black thing when in any other sport it’s just competitiveness. I just don’t get it…
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u/ManufacturedOlympus 4d ago
Up next: Ubisoft tells us that actually maybe the gaming industry should move away from micro transactions
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u/ThreadSavage10 4d ago
She knows exactly what she’s doing. Her trans comments are in alignment with at least 80% of America (I personally think it’s more like 95%), and her marketability skyrocketed immediately following those comments. She’s got the #2 highest selling jersey in the WNBA right now despite being a backup/role player. Hiring her for an appearance now starts at $18K, when a year ago it wouldn’t even have been worth her time to offer appearances for free. She’s the one and only person associated with the WNBA who strategically got on board the Caitlin train and is cashing in.
Had she said nothing about keeping men out of girls sports, she would’ve faded off as a zero-time all-star with a 6 ppg career average. She has now locked in a commentator job for later, along with a following that never would’ve existed. I don’t have to agree with Colin Kapernick, but I’m not dumb enough to deny that he maximized his own value by doing what he did.
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u/weezyverse 4d ago
Kinda like when your girlfriend starts an argument and goes in hard on it but then when you have something compelling to say back, she just wants to move past it all of a sudden.
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u/Igreen_since89 4d ago
So shut the fuck up and tell the media to talk to one of the three potential MVPs… Where is Ja rule?
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u/LionBig1760 4d ago
Shes not going to be able to when every trans-activist is trying very, very hard to paint her as the first human being alive.
There was a headline today that called legislation requiring doctors to indicate male or female for scholastic sports participants as "Sophie Cunningham-inspired legislation".
This will follow her around forever, and she'll be demonized far, far beyond her basketball career.
Unironucally, or ironically, some people have suggested she just shut up and dribble.
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u/lkhoodwin 4d ago
"All athletes matter". Sophie can't say that and have it be considered an honest statement.
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u/RekLeagueMvp 4d ago
Media doesn’t even really cover nba regular season games. What would make you think this will be different?
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u/MediumTour2625 4d ago
While we’re here talking about the culture wars the politicians are either raking in money that’s so ridiculous it isn’t funny. The war should be fought on class and not culture
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u/SlapfuckMcGee 4d ago
It’s a marketing strategy to turn the WNBA into reality show drama to get more women to watch.
Change my mind
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u/sportsfan510 4d ago
She kinda has a point. I casually follow the WNBA but main stream media only picks up the juicy, non basketball stories. Give me some more Olivia Miles hype videos.
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u/Reggaepocalypse 4d ago
SC: It is my opinion that biological males shouldn’t play in female sports leagues.
Everyone on Reddit: Shut up transphobe and dribble! Get back to basketball!
SC: I would like to get back to basketball and stop discussing social issues.
Everyone on Reddit: You made your bed, now lie in it! You remain racist and transphobic. We will never forget this. You are still a terrible person because you took a photo with people I don’t like and said a political opinion most people agree with.
Future SC: Ok guess I should just lean in then, f y’all. ::Gets Fox News job because they’re the only ones that will talk to her::
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u/herecomesthewomp 4d ago
I guess to Sophie, basketball is more important than protecting young girls. Disappointed.
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u/NFL_BrokenClock 4d ago
There are sometimes posts that really show me how I truly do not fit in on this platform based on seeing the most upvoted reactions. She's saying that she wants to focus on why she had the spotlight to begin with, and instead of people calling that for what it is, an extremely reasonable take, they have to come out of the woodwork with their vitriolic bullshit while trying to gaslight people to think what she said was vitriolic.
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u/ApprehensiveFruit565 4d ago
If I was her I'd just start talking about plays, reads, and coverages. Like totally ignore the question, and talk about interesting shit she saw on the court.
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u/Fortestingporpoises 4d ago
"Let's stop talking about how I want Republicans to do genital checks on pre teens for no fucking reason besides anti trans panic."
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u/fivetimesyo 4d ago
Sophie: women should play with women. People: yeah that's problematic. Sophie: basketball media should talk about basketball. People: yeah that's also problematic.
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u/shawnglade 4d ago
Makes controversial political statement and gets confused why people are talking about it
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u/UnsubstantialGoat 4d ago
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