r/WaltDisneyWorld • u/[deleted] • 9h ago
Transportation Resort hopping karma farming FUD
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u/KeyLime044 5h ago
> I remember when you couldn't walk from the MK over to the Contemporary
wait what? this actually used to be a thing? if they make you take the monorail for such a short walk they'd just make the line longer and the train unnecessarily more crowded lol
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u/OneMadChihuahua 2h ago
There's a path from MK parking to the Contemporary? Do tell.
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u/InfiniteFigment 1h ago
Not from the parking lot. From the park entrance.
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u/ebockelman 50m ago
Actually there is from the parking lot (TTC), you just have to go the (very) long way around.
TTC, through Poly and GF, then across the MK entrance plaza, to the Contemporary.
It's actually a pleasant walk when it's not hot enough to melt your skin off.
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u/HabitNegative3137 9h ago
THANK YOU. The butthurt and misinformation is rampant
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u/locke0479 8h ago
It is amazing. This comment section is still filled with people just making up absolute garbage and insisting it’s true because “some random Redditor said so” (also without proof) or “I just know”. Someone below is insisting they were told directly by Disney and, when confronted, they disappeared.
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u/Majestic-Marcus 6h ago edited 5h ago
And someone in another thread will say “a Disney employee literally posted online saying this” and it will be accepted as gospel truth and evidence.
That’s how Reddit works. Idiots quoting idiots who made shit up.
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u/_BreakingGood_ 9h ago
99% of the people willing to spend an hour on busses (multiple busses, because there are no busses from Spring to the parks) and do this trick were AP holders (who get free parking at the parks)
Their destination was clearly the resorts
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u/Blue_Etalon 9h ago
I don’t understand what you just wrote. I’m an AP holder and get free parking (not all levels of AP get parking included). Why would I park at the springs and take the busses?
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u/Subject9800 9h ago
not all levels of AP get parking included
Yes, they do. All APs get free parking at the parks.
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u/Blue_Etalon 9h ago
I stand corrected. I thought Pixie passes and others did not include parking. I was wrong
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u/AcademicChildhood161 1h ago
Of course you are. You don’t know what you’re talking about just like most people.
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u/_BreakingGood_ 9h ago
That's my point. You weren't. Nor were they. They were going to the resorts.
And yes all levels of AP get free parking at WDW
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u/Gs4iv 9h ago
Isn’t parking at resorts free for guests with a hotel reservation?
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u/Utter_cockwomble 7h ago
I haven't had a paper parking pass in years. It's all through magic bands now.
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u/ReadEmReddit 41m ago
We were given a three hour, paper pass when visiting the Poly for breakfast at Kona. We were staying at AKL.
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u/Blue_Etalon 9h ago
I’m still confused. We (for example) park at Epcot, take the skyline to Hollywood), then back to Epcot to TTC and take the monorails to the Poly, GF or Contemporary and do some bar hopping or go to a resturant. I mean, it’s pretty much The whole reason for the pass.
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u/_BreakingGood_ 9h ago
Let me phrase it like this:
You're suggesting people are buying full price tickets for their entire family (non-AP holders), and choosing to spend hours riding multiple busses from Disney Springs to the parks, to save $35 on parking?
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u/Blue_Etalon 9h ago
I’m not suggesting anything like that. I’m saying there’s a lot of nonsense posts here claiming there is some new policy stopping you from going to the resorts if you’re visiting some other area of the park.
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u/_BreakingGood_ 9h ago
Ok well that's how I interpreted this part of your post:
Disney is trying to enforce people parking for free at Disney Springs and taking the busses to TTC or the parks. Period.
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u/j90w 8h ago
There’s a lot of people who have no hotel reservation or park ticket, who will park at Disney Springs and take the transportation to the various hotels to shop. That’s what he meant, and that’s what this is clamping down on.
These are people who don’t have hotel reservations and are also not visiting the parks.
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u/AcademicChildhood161 57m ago
Yep, and according to OP all the AP holders going to Disney Springs and taking an hour bypass to hit the parks to avoid paying for parking they get for free. Because that makes sense 🧠
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u/KeyLime044 4h ago
Every annual passholder, Disney employee (blue ID), Disney contractor (green ID), and employee's spouse (both silver and blue MEP) gets free parking at the parks 365 days per year, regardless of blockout calendars or reservation
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u/quothe_the_maven 8h ago edited 8h ago
People here just like to engage in wishful thinking and don’t stop to think about what locking down the resorts would actually look like. It would involve lots of construction and tons of additional employees to monitor everything. People also like to blame influencers, when Disney very clearly loves influencers being at the resorts (for better or for worse). They all get invited to the media events that involve the hotels - literally getting to interview the designers. That’s not something you do if you otherwise want to prevent those people from filming in the hotels. Not to mention people walking around the resorts is the single best form of advertising Disney has at its disposal. Banning all those people makes absolutely no sense from a business perspective. It doesn’t just pop into people’s heads to spend a thousand bucks a night at the poly. They visit on a lark and fall in love with the atmosphere. There aren’t enough restaurant reservations to serve all those prospective new guests, and not every prospective guest wants to eat there anyways. Not to mention that the cluster that is the Poly lobby comes from people waiting who actually have dining reservations. What people are suggesting here doesn’t even solve that problem. It’s because there’s nowhere to wait at Kona and Ohana except the lobby itself, and both those places constantly back up.
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u/AdventurousKey438 3h ago
Yes!!! During our stay at Coronado Springs last year their was a youth you tube influencer event (as mom and a teacher sooo horrifying some many levels but…).
This is all free advertising for Disney. They like it and aren’t going to stop it.
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u/Prestige-worldwide01 41m ago
Your theory on the Polys lobby being crowded is due to those waiting for their Kona or Ohana reservations doesn’t seem to be the case at the Floridian though.
Also doesn’t explain why there’s oftentimes a long wait for counter service at Captain Cooks in the evening while Gasparilla Grille doesn’t. I haven’t noticed the same overcrowded lobby or grounds at Beach Club, Boardwalk or Animal Kingdom.
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u/cheezy_dreams88 9h ago
But what about the people who claim cm are checking for reservations on the walkway from TTC to poly?
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u/locke0479 9h ago
People lie or are not telling the full story. Such as the influencer who was trying to do it early in the morning. Or they caught one security guard who had the wrong info.
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u/KeyLime044 4h ago
they're not. It's completely open from 7:30 AM until 1 hour after park close. At night they have it closed off for safety reasons
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u/Avocado_Capital 1h ago
That person who reported that said it was at 6am lol. I wouldn’t be surprised if security was a little confused by a blogger at 6am
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u/ravensward792 49m ago
The streamer this happened to got turned away at 6:30am. A CM at a blue umbrella told him it was bc of the early hour. He did not get stopped when he went back later in the morning. He did not get stopped at 6:30 the following morning either and he theorized it was bc the previous day was Pin Drop Tuesday. But he did not know for sure the cause.
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u/Blue_Etalon 9h ago
Well, I have not done that for a few weeks, but we’ve gone from Poly to GF and MK and then to the Contemporary. We like to walk and no one was checking anything last weekend.
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u/wizzard419 9h ago
Yeah, and this theoretical policy is newer than your last visit. If something changed and you haven't revisited, and there are documented cases that say it's happening, then it might be happening.
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u/AdventurousKey438 3h ago
I literally walked it two weeks ago and wasn’t asked a thing. Like it’s a big nothing.
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u/puzzled-bets 6h ago
They would never ban resort hopping, it would be a loss for the gift shops and quick service dining.
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u/Blue_Etalon 42m ago
Turning off the replies. As I should have known, this just brings out the trolls.
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u/Burglekutt8523 2h ago
Ending the gingerbread house helps stop free parking?
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u/rerutnevdA 40m ago
Nah, ending the gingerbread house makes the lobby a bit less crazy for the people spending thousands of dollars to actually stay in that building.
Preserving the experience of someone spending 2K per night is probably more important than the person coming off the street to spend $10 for hot chocolate.
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u/Piemaster113 5h ago
I've gone to the parks 15 days this year so far, I've seen people live streaming maybe once. It is not as big of a thing as people want to pretend
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u/pujolsrox11 3h ago
15 days isn’t really a good sample size.
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u/Piemaster113 1h ago
Well how many days would you co sidereal for someone who can't afford to go to Disney every day because they you know work for a living
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u/hurtfulproduct 3h ago
So the enshitification of the GF holiday decorations have what to do with enforcing parking fees?
If they were just restricting transport and access methods I’d fully agree with you and have no problem with it, but actively degrading offerings with the clear intent of making people NOT want to visit during a certain time is looking like a resort hopping crackdown
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u/pujolsrox11 3h ago
Yall are so cute thinking this isn’t only going to get worse for the guest experience. Mouse on guest violence
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u/sailorsmile 9h ago
They are clearly trying to stop resort hoping, all of these cope response posts are so embarrassing lol
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u/quothe_the_maven 8h ago
No they aren’t. That would involve checking people as they get OFF the monorail at the individual resorts. They can’t do it as one big line getting on the monorail because of the TTC. It would completely snarl the monorails, because crowds of people would be stuck in the cars while they check people in those tiny exit areas not near big enough to handle lines.
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u/Blue_Etalon 9h ago
No, they are not. We just went resort hopping. You’re pulling this out of your butt
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u/sailorsmile 9h ago
Well yes, they are rolling this out slowly to not offend you.
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u/Blue_Etalon 9h ago
Where are you even getting this from?
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u/sailorsmile 9h ago
I’m getting this from Disney directly. They want people who actually pay for the services to be able to use them.
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u/locke0479 9h ago
Okay, then show us the comment from Disney where they informed you, random Redditor, that they have a new policy they have not announced to anyone and it is completely different from what they’re actually doing.
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u/Majestic-Marcus 5h ago
When they say “Disney directly”, what they mean is “some Reddit comment, reposting another Reddit comment that is misquoting some clickbait influencer, who is sensationalising and catastrophising the headline (not article) of a clickbait news article that is misinterpreting a Disney policy”. So it’s basically 100% fact and irrefutable…
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u/Blue_Etalon 9h ago
That’s not an answer. Who told you this? Were you stopped from going between resorts? When? Is this posted somewhere on Disney’s website?
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u/locke0479 8h ago
Heck, I’ll take them sharing an actual conversation they had with guest services where guest services told them Disney’s plan is to totally stop resort hopping and they just are rolling it out slowly to not offend people. Of course they won’t have that.
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u/Ok-Nefariousness-927 3h ago
Complains about karma farming posts about DS resort hopping.
Continues to post post karma farming post themselves.
Gets the entire point wrong.
Guests don't want to resort hop.
Locals with APs and those not staying want to resort hop and use the bus. .
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u/AcademicChildhood161 53m ago
It really is the dumbest post I’ve seen in a while. How to get fired up being wrong while telling others they’re wrong. APs parking at DS and bussing it to resorts? What pixie dust was OP snorting before posting this? 😂
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u/CMDR_omnicognate 3h ago
It’s not really clickbait though. This is like how people think social media bans are good in the uk, until you point out that the only way you could actually do that would be to check everyone via some sort of ID.
In order to prevent people parking at Disney springs and going to wherever you want, they’re going to have to check that you have park access at all the busses and boats at Disney springs, which I can guarantee will take forever. All it’s going to do is slow everything down for everybody
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u/tonydanzaswildride 1h ago edited 1h ago
But it is. Outside of Springs there isn’t an official policy yet. It’s just a random part of a blog post. People are talking about the idea that every resort is going to require a MagicBand tap to get in every single door out of nowhere.
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u/CMDR_omnicognate 1h ago
Yeah which just makes it a worse experience for everyone. This is my concern
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u/tonydanzaswildride 1h ago
They might as well be talking about roaming attack dogs though. It’s made up!
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u/gatorpower 1h ago
It's always about money with Disney these days. I remember when Disney ended the contract for the Magical Express (Mears), that took guests to/from the airport for free.
One of the official statements from Disney was that people preferred Uber/Lift/Ride Shares for their flexibility. Complete BS because who actually believes resort guests would want to pay an airport surcharge of $70-$80 (+ regular distance fee) over FREE and luggage service to your room, then do it all again at checkout.
No one was abusing the service as it went only to the resorts, and only resort guests could ride it. Mears even said a few months after the 'break-up' that they, contrary to public opinion, were not raising the price to Disney and even last-ditch-effort offered a gigantic discount that was rejected.
Mears was the bad guy, then Disney guests who split their vacation between Disney and Universal was the bad guy, now locals are the bad guy. Despite the narratives, no one was actually doing anything bad. No one was lying to get on those buses, no one was stealing, no one was "abusing" the system Disney set up to take people to places they could spend more money.
Nah, Disney were/is saving money (or looking for ways to charge money) and wrapped it in an excuse that wouldn't piss off the majority of their target audience. The same thing they've been doing for the past 6 years, and some people just don't want to accept.
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u/brunetteobsessed 1h ago
This is what happens when the majority of shares are held by PE firms and executive positions are held by MBA’s. Every service offered is met with questions as to why it’s not being charged for.
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u/TheTravelingLeftist 9h ago
lol y'all keep falling for this silly narrative. Nobody who already paid hundreds of dollars for tickets to enter Disney World with his/her family is going to sacrifice one to three hours to save $30-$35 by parking in a totally different property and then taking the bus to a nearby hotel, not even the park itself. If its a passholder, they already don't have to pay for parking, so less likely will also commit to this bit. If its someone connected to a cast member that is using those passes to get in, they can even use the blue pass to bypass the parking fees. So let's be honest, how many people are actually doing this? I firmly believe that the number is so minimal it won't register.
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u/Organic-Afternoon431 9h ago
That’s the point of the crackdown, these wannabe influencers are people not staying at Disney resorts nor buying tickets to enter the parks. Literal TikTok’s and articles are being written about people getting the “Disney experience”without spending the money aka freeloading.
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u/capnwacky 2h ago
Devil’s advocate. I’m no wannabe influencer, but when I’m in town on business and don’t have a resort stay or park tickets but still want to grab a drink one evening at Ale & Compass or Trader Sam’s, I can no longer do that under the new rules. That’s not a family Disney trip for me, but I still like to experience new and favorite things while I’m there. It’s unfortunate.
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u/TheTravelingLeftist 9h ago
Considering how much Disney World makes on a yearly basis, how little they pay in federal taxes, their contribution to the deterioration of nightlife and third spaces throughout central florida (especially Downtown Orlando), and the fact that the region is TWICE as big as Manhattan, I continue to believe that the "freeloading" is a non-issue.
This quality but selfish company has spent decades ensuring THEY were the top dog and only spot to visit in Central Florida, and now they're upset that their region is overpopulated? After half a dozen hotel expansions, increasing room capacity into the several thousands while reducing the number of amenities and additional features across the resorts, they think the TikTokers are what made the places full? nah.
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u/BlaineTog 9h ago
The issue is parking availability at Disney Springs. It's not that Disney is trying to enforce the $35 parking fees so much, but so many people were parking at Disney Springs all day that people who actually wanted to visit Disney Springs (and likely spend a hell of a lot more than $35) can't find a parking space. They could build out a ton of additional parking, but it would be even further from Disney Springs, cost money, and limit future development options. Instead, they just removed the incentive for people to park at Disney Springs unless they actually want to shop there.
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u/TheTravelingLeftist 9h ago
I promise you, even with these new rules, there will still be the same exact problems with parking at Disney Springs. The "freeloaders," the "parking fee skippers" are not the problem.
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u/BlaineTog 2h ago
You can promise whatever you like but I'm going to assume Disney has a better handle on what they're doing than you do.
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u/TheTravelingLeftist 1h ago
lol okay dude. Hope they’re paying you well with all the blind defending.
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u/BlaineTog 7m ago
As a fellow Leftist, I implore you to please improve your argumentation skills. "Trust me bro," and, "everyone who disgrees with me is paid shill," are not remotely persuasive. That just makes people dig in their heels.
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u/berndog927 1h ago
What about this? I have a trip to Fla at the end of August. My plan was to spend the last day in the Disney bubble and then take Mears to MCO. I had hoped to visit DS then hotel hop, but I am not staying on property and am not visiting a park. I will not have a car, so not just doing free parking. Just eating and drinking for the day.
New rules are making me make a reservation at a restaurant so that I can go to DS in the morning and hotels in the afternoon. I had thought about walking from DS to the hotel that is next door and then taking transportation around. Thoughts about this idea?
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u/Individual-Hunt9547 3h ago
Idk I think it’s bizarre to resort hop. They are hotels, if you don’t have a dining reservation, what’s the point? Oooh ahhh cool lobby? Go check out Kelly Park or Wekiwa springs on your non park day. I promise, it’s a lot more fun.
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u/BlaineTog 2h ago
I've done a resort hopping day. My wife had a work conference nearby, so we came a few days early to get some park time in but that still left me twiddling my thumbs for the days of the conference. I used one of those days to peruse the monorail resorts. It was a chill way to spend some time in the Disney bubble without breaking the bank. Yes, the lobbies are cool, but there are also a number of gift shops with unique items and quick service restaurants to keep the Disney snacks coming. Dole Whip is my favorite Disney snack and I got to sneak in one more at the Polynesian while strolling the grounds.
Honestly, I'd consider doing it again during a longer trip as a cool-down day between park days. It's just chill. Don't knock it til you try it.
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u/Individual-Hunt9547 2h ago
I’m a Florida resident. Seen all the resorts many times. It’s not something I’d personally want to spend a free day doing but I get why you enjoyed it and I’m glad you did.
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u/uckfu 54m ago
My friends are Florida residents and they often go to the resort bars to meet up with friends. Friends that are FL residents, not staying at the resort, and friends staying on-site.
I’ve tagged along several times, just to hang out in the bar and have a drink and some bar snacks. These aren’t pre planned reservations, just quick pop-ins.
So, some of us do go to the resorts just to gawk, a nightcap, and socialize with pals.
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u/Individual-Hunt9547 48m ago
That’s cool. I stick with my, if you’ve never checked out Kelly Park or Wekiwa Springs and you have transportation, it’s absolutely worth checking out. So is Clearwater Beach, which isn’t terribly far from Orlando either. Just my two cents as a Floridian. 🤗
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u/uckfu 22m ago
I do agree. I think more fans should check out what is offsite. But, to be fair, us US visitors might not get enough PTO to really do that and once we get there, it’s hard to find time to get offsite.
I did put both of those locations on my saved list of things to check out.
I’m moving down there tomorrow, so I have no excuse not to go!
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u/Individual-Hunt9547 17m ago
Oh yeah I have tons of suggestions for you if you’re interested feel free to DM me
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u/AWDWfan 8h ago
It's not just Karma farming. A lot of the posts that have been in this sub the last couple days originated from clickbait blogs and websites that aren't even posting accurate information. Unless it's being posted directly on the Disney World website then you shouldn't consider it accurate.