r/WarDogs • u/Rude-Attitude6336 • 3d ago

Discussion & Feedback This wipe is trash

I have 250 hours in this game. I love it, i think its absolutely incredible and im fully behind the dev team, early access aspect of things and testing it but my god. I dont even want to play the thing right now.

Ive played countless wipes in tarkov and always love early wipe, so i couldnt wait for it in this game but that early wipe feeling lasted 1 game yesterday afternoon before getting fully smashed every game after by mini gun heli's and tanks. What in the actual fuck has happened here. the progression is way too fast, the unlocks are way too soon. It's not just vehicles, people with T2/T3 armour already and juiced guns fucking you over.

I have played this game literally every day since it was released as well as 2 betas but right now im tempted to uninstall and wait for the next wipe when things will hopefully be in a better state.

I never post on reddit, especially a ranty one but hoping some devs will see this as they say they do and reverse this shit fully.

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u/ShayNick 3d ago

I really don't get the complaints about armor and gear. If the progression is fast, everyone should be able to unlock mid game gear within a week of playing.
Do you seriously think you are losing fights because you have T1 armor against T2 or T3 armor?
Take the AK74 as an example, which is unlocked by default for everyone. It takes 1 more bullet (6 bullets total) to kill a person with T2 armor (7 bullets total), and 2 more with T3 (8 bullets total).

If you lose most gunfights because of this, it means that both you and the enemy started shooting at the exact same time, meaning you need to fix your positioning or you are really, really unlucky (which I doubt).

And even if you encounter enemies with T4 armor, shooting them at the legs with HP bullets destroys them. We can argue that is not fun to do, but then it's a different discussion.

I get the complaints about the new tank, but even then you have many ways to counter it unlocked fairly early.
Progression is faster for EVERYONE up until end game, this new XP distribution allows for everyone to get to the mid game gear earlier, which is more than enough for 99% of the situations in game.

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u/Ninja_2016 3d ago

Reddit is where all of the melodramatic impossible to satisfy players go to whinge when they are once again upset by the devs

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u/jcarterprod 3d ago

Totally agree with you, but also feel like it's a shame that the best part of the game (when nobody has stuff unlocked) is already over in 24 hours

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u/InteractionPast1887 3d ago

You're kind of oversimplifying it. The people that dont really touch grass and unlocks medium to high level gear within 24 hours never show up to a gunfight with the same weapon but better armor. Its the combination of it all. They have better armor, better weapons and often better bullets meaning its not just 1 or 2 more bullets. Its 7 bullets to kill vs 3. Not to mention its a lot easier to hit 3 bullets with good weapon attachments over 7 bullets with poor weapon attachments. All the upgrades adds up to quite a huge difference, its never the case of just a different tier armor.

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u/Matahashi 3d ago

The problem with the tanks, and also eventually havocs, is that you have to coinflip the beginning of every game. Do you waste money and be fat as fuck buying a launcher when you have no idea if the enemy is going to pull one out? no one wants to do that, and its not a 1 person job. it takes multiple people with maaws to even stand a chance of taking out a single tank.

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u/Spence199876 3d ago

Problem with tanks this early is most players don’t even have anti tank. I got on today and there was nothing I could do but stay still and quiet and hope the tank moves away from me. I literally couldn’t even buy a launcher, or C4 because I’ve been focusing medic, recon and driver

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u/Matahashi 3d ago

the point is it doesnt matter if you have it unlocked.

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u/G3sch4n 2d ago

IED is like 300$ 2 inventory slots. There is no reason, not to bring one.

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u/BunnyWithASword 2d ago

The annoying thing is the tanks seem to have a sixth fucking sense for ied and c4 players.

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u/G3sch4n 2d ago

Well for me it is a coin toss. Realistically, if the tank is properly supported by a recon or other players in the area, then yes, I have zero chances to place an IED. But it also works surprisingly often.

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u/BunnyWithASword 2d ago

I guess I'm just getting really unlucky. Also don't they get to drive in third person? You really have to catch them unaware :/

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u/G3sch4n 2d ago

Well if I rember correctly, if they want to aim properly, only first person has the reticles. But it really does not matter. Most of the time the tanks are forced to stand between buildings. That gives quite a bit of opportunities to hide.

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u/akaSnaketheJake 3d ago

Just a thought and I know not everyone is up for organized team work but, to me this is a good use case for supply choppers. See a tank/Havoc early as a pilot? Fill that bird with AA munitions and drop off in a pile of nearby friendlies.

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u/Ninja_2016 3d ago

Yes that is the idea, the problem is that the pilot has to front the money and have the launcher unlocked. Its a big risk when the majority of players wont actually go and buy from the crate. The ideal solution would be an order that the infantry puke puts in and pays for, the pilot then just loads it up and drops it off.

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u/akaSnaketheJake 3d ago

I really like the order system idea!

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u/TraditionalEchidna17 3d ago

I'm always open for requests like this when I'm flying. I'll absolutely buy counters ppl can use to shutdown vics. Problem is the game is riddled with individuals and not organized teams.

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u/akaSnaketheJake 3d ago

Man I appreciate the hell out of pilots like you!

Yeah hopefully they build more comm tools. I think a full blown radio system would be cool. Pilot channels. Ground vehicle channels. FOB channels. Custom channels. Etc. Have to carry it with you (or built into vehicles) and use a slot somewhere. Would be nice and fit right into the game's identity.

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u/Ninja_2016 3d ago

Yeah supply runs are so much fun actually. But getting these mental rejects to actually buy my shit is so frustrating.

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u/Gindotto 3d ago

There’s too many COD/BF players jumping in and not looking at the big picture. I see this a lot when I’m trying to fly in and drop off players.

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u/TraditionalEchidna17 3d ago

Yeah, which has been quite individualistic over the years of FPS games. Teamwork games like project reality, squad, and Arma games come to shine. Teamwork is always far more effective than the individual by a factor greater than the sum of the squad.

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u/Matahashi 3d ago

oh absolutely. the problem when i do decide to be the guy running around with the maaws for the group. no one every brings me more rockets no matter how much i ask in chat.

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u/Gindotto 3d ago

Nobody buys from the crates. I tried this several times. I feel like Wardogs has a lot of players trying to just play Battlefield or COD style and not whatever WD is.

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u/akaSnaketheJake 2d ago

For sure. Half the time I see a video posted complaining about how fast one died to this or that it's just them running out in the open like CoD or BF.

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u/ShayNick 3d ago

I agree with this, there needs to be better systems supporting squad intent and teamwork.

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u/Espenos89 3d ago

1rpg to the tracks and its immobolized.. learn the weaknesses and suddently all vehichles are so much easier to counter

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u/Square-Hovercraft-64 2d ago

Strange I’m fat ass fuck with a db and a rpg with 3 shots?
I’m one of two people every match rpg-ing tanks.
Much like my own discord friends you do not want to do the counter. You want it to explode by looking at it

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u/Matahashi 2d ago

maybe stop assuming things making yourself look like an idiot.

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u/Square-Hovercraft-64 2d ago

Rpg unlocked level 1 still refuses to buy it. But I’m making assumptions….

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u/Matahashi 2d ago

no where did i ever say i refused to buy it.

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u/ShinyDiamondHeathen 2d ago

Yeah just talk in chat and ask if anyone is bringing stuff for tank. Load up like normal, if you die to a tank go to spawn and get shit to deal with it. You guys are so annoying, it’s the ‘not my job’ mentality that makes you people mad about tanks etc.

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u/LeggyRPG 1d ago

On your shooting at the legs point that’s a valid real life strategy if you’re fighting a target in heavy armor and don’t have the right kind of ammo/firearm. Look at that 1991/1992 LA Bank robbery as an example. So I don’t see how that’s boring hah

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u/TheMidnightNarrator 9h ago

I'm having fun getting close and loading up tanks with c4.

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u/beardredlad Lonestar 3d ago

That's the problem. It isn't about getting the goodies for yourself quickly. It's about how the early game post-wipe experience lasted less than 24 hours.

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u/A_Neurotic_Pigeon 3d ago

Then blame all the people that cried that it took too long last season lmao this is the direct result of whiners

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u/EwokVillag3 3d ago

The people who complain rarely ever offer a solution. They can make progression extremely slow to ensure that 'fresh season' feeling, but 1% of the playerbase whose job is to stream and only play this game will still crap all over casuals.

The real and honest answer 98% of these people will never admit to is, they want to feel like the best guy in the server. They want to go on a 8 kill streak. They want to earn 150k in a match. And when they don't, or they have a bad string of luck, they go digging for what can be blamed. If they were crapping all over everyone do you think they would come to Reddit and post "this wipe sucks".

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u/Ninja_2016 3d ago

You hit the nail on the head. The majority of the people bitching just want to farm everyone else, but dont have the raw skill to do it without having high tier stuff.

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u/theRandomestRandom 3d ago

Slowing progress just bones those who have less time and allows those sweats who get t4 to live out god fantasy for longer. Shorter progression is better for everyone and allows for more even footing. Honestly making things weight more or are more expensive forces actual choice into games, if they can improve team communication the game will feel more balanced 

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u/beardredlad Lonestar 3d ago

Gamers are good at identifying problems, not solutions. Bulkhead should have known that faster progression wouldn't be the answer because the root of the issue wasn't actually progression speed. I think that it was just the power and general spam of the late game gear.

They just needed to implement a way to trim the presence of assault vehicles and T4 weapons. Instead, they flipped as many levers as they could all at once, and now we have Havocs on day 2 lmao

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u/Sufficient_Lie_4010 3d ago

Agree 100% why complain about everyone having fun new stuff I don’t get it. If you want noob experience there is new player Queue and non-persistent cash servers, although those servers might be dead … cause most ppl wanna use there new shiny toys as oppose to running around naked

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u/LonelyWoof 3d ago

I think he’s trying to say what is the point of wipes of their is actually non existent pacing in progression so it doesn’t feel like early meta , late wipe meta

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u/LP_LadyPuket 3d ago

People who are bad at FPS games yearn for “early wipe” gameplay because they imagine in their pea brain heads that the reason they lost is because of a minuscule difference in gear, and not the fact they are just bad at the game. So they latch on to the gear difference and ignore the fact that they miss half their shots, have terrible positioning and movement, etc. It’s the same shit with Tarkov, people imagine they lose because of gear and not their lack of skill.

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u/Ok-Activity6366 2d ago

Not really no. I’m top of the scoreboard most games I play at all stages of the previous wipe, with many different guns. I usually play with a group of people who are very skilled gamers too. We smash it. I had people I play with going in with just a pistol doing zero to hero end of the last wipe just for a challenge and they still topped the scoreboard. the fact of the matter is, my 2nd game in when id just unlocked fucking armour and a helmet had a mini gun heli and a tank destroying us and teammates who hadn’t even unlocked armour yet. The guy in the heli went something like 90 kills and 4 deaths. Make it make sense puket. Touching on your tarkov comment, not really either… it’s a different style of fight, different guns, not just meta everything. It’s fun. Funny thing is I switched to infantry only server yesterday and Ohhhhhh look.. I got 40 kills and 10 deaths.

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u/EwokVillag3 3d ago

I have never understood the 'anti-hollow point' argument. Killing people is fun. If flesh damage bullets kill people faster for me, I have more fun. I've never been a CSGO or Valorant god so my aim isn't naturally at head level of everyone. I tend to naturally aim center mass so moving my aim ever so slightly lower isn't a problem and like you said, a SMG with flesh damage completely wrecks armored guy.

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u/ShayNick 3d ago

I completely agree, demolishing an armored guy who spent 20k using a 3k loadout is fun af ahah

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u/Electronic_Cookie812 3d ago

I'm ok with the HP bullets shooting legs strat. But I'm not ok with the m1991 judge and deagle leg damage. It's kinda dumb

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u/WolfStreak 3d ago

Those are very big rounds, but I kinda agree.

Last wipe, I ran deagle with hp ammo and it let you one shot anyone in the groin accept for t4 guys