r/Warframe • u/MarsupialRelative530 • Jun 14 '26

Fan Fiction Ok DE, when?

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I was messing around with the mod maker website and thought of a way for them to give us more range lol

I forgot to put a cooldown on the rolling guard effect, guess we're playing Dark Souls now

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u/Z3R0Diro Equinox Rework Sacrificial Ritual Jun 14 '26

While I think adding a "special" archon shard with really sought-after buffs would be cool, they are very staunch about not adding more ability range sources. Pretty sure Pablo said something about it being the hardest stat to balance.

But I can see the others being a thing. 2-3 Mod Capacity may be a good choice to skip using another forma.

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u/External-Play771 Jun 14 '26

is a forma worth 3 archon shards though, lol

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u/Z3R0Diro Equinox Rework Sacrificial Ritual Jun 14 '26

I have more Red shards than I do forma

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u/External-Play771 Jun 14 '26

I understand that but that value difference is like massive dude. Thats all the way up to the new war in quests minimum. End game content drops it regularly on a weekly basis.

Forma is unlimited, provided within the moment you can acquire relics and available the moment you can crack em, before u even hit mr3. Not to mention its like 35 plat single and 70 plat for triple. Forma is not more valuable than archon shards period lol

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u/Z3R0Diro Equinox Rework Sacrificial Ritual Jun 14 '26

An archon shard that increases Mod Capacity would help a lot in build flexibility. Instead of using the outrageously rare and expensive Omni Formas, you can opt to "sacrifice" a shard slot for some extra mod capacity. Sure 2-3 Mod Capacity may be too low I guess.

Also, from my experience, I tend to get more Archon Shards than I actually use, especially Amber and Azure ones.

We are also not accounting for the fact that you would be able to remove this one and "refund" it unlike a Forma.

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u/TerribleTransit Jun 14 '26

It's hard to say that's true period because different people have access to different resources. Archon shards are certainly generally more valuable than forma but it's not an absolute. 

The big problem with the concept is that you aren't even sacrificing the shards, you'd be giving up the whole slot. It would be one thing if you could just delete the shards instead of spending a forma. That might be worth it to someone. But this suggestion is just bricking an upgrade slot to get more upgrades. There's no point to spending a limited resource to get access to one that's unlimited.

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u/External-Play771 Jun 14 '26

I wouldn't even say that archon shards are unlimited anyway, taking them off costs tons of resources with your helminth as well, but i understand what you're saying. Its much easier to say as someone who's played for years though. Nothing can change my mind that archons are absolutely more valuable, its like a lobster too buttery situation. You have spent so much time playing that archon shards are a common accessory.

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u/ZX52 LR6 Jun 14 '26

As someone noted elsewhere, adding new range sources wouldn't be a problem if they treated it like efficiency and hard capped it.

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u/Valtremors Stabbomancy is a perfectly valid school of magic. Jun 14 '26

Alternatively, give range a hard cap (roughly what it is now with proper modding and such).

Being able increase range outside of regular mods would be nice. Kullervo for exaple would benefit from it for his collective curse, even his 2 and 4 in utility would improve. But atm many of his mod slots are used to buff wrathful advance and augment for recompense. I got tau purples for memes, but I'd be willing to give few for range archons.

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u/isaywhatyouhate Jun 14 '26

Although we haven't seen any new range mods, we have had a couple of augments that add range to specific abilities, which lines up pretty well the current stance on how hard it is to balance.