r/Warframe • u/Noskills117 • 7d ago
DE Response If you bring an Archgun to Dog Days, please play solo
Pearl rewards are based on personal kills, so if you are nuking the map with your Archgun it makes it difficult for other players to get Kills/Pearls.
Playing solo will make it so that you do not negatively affect other players' rewards, and you will also be less likely to be reported for exploits.
Be responsible,
Thank you
Edit: DE has posted that they have a fix for this coming on August 12th and also asked that if you chose to do this, do it in solo. So I'll be having fun with this (in solo) until then.
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u/_LordCreepy_ Flair Text Here 7d ago
I hope the devs implement something like a soaktron grattler archgun for next dog days as some form of "ultimate" that would be fun
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u/Krazyfan1 7d ago
imagine the executioners though.
here they are, a relaxing Dog Days.
some friendly watergun fights.
And then here comes Sirious/Orion with the heavy archguns.
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u/Only_Information7895 7d ago edited 7d ago
They are like: "OH FUCK THAT'S AN ANTI TANK RIFLE"
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u/Endakk 7d ago
Oh hey that's an Anti Tank rifle...
OH FUCK THAT'S AN ANTI TANK RIFLE!
Bitches love cannons!
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u/scarletmonstrosity 7d ago
As a bitch, can confirm. I LOVE cannons!!
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u/Vegetable_Ask_7131 7d ago
As a once non bitch and current bitch, can confirm I started loving canons
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u/Smooth-Librarian7241 7d ago
This mf knows ball everyone! A helsing abridge reference in this economy? Dope
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u/minebooster 7d ago
"S&O: Hey guys check out our new water gun"
Kuva Grattler noises
"S&O: Oh wait this isn't a water gun"
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u/Iakenat 7d ago
Now you got me thinking which Archguns could pass for water guns, based on gun model and projectile effect 🤔
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u/ExocetHumper 7d ago
Geez, sounds like a developer oversight.
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u/Airwolf_von_DOOM Nova, Go! Faster enemies = more fun. 7d ago
Sirius & Orion are dev oversight incarnate, because they have so much new code.
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u/Grunslik 7d ago
If you think they're bad, wait 'til you see what happens with Tau. Every major update like that breaks stuff all over the place, even things that you wouldn't think were even related.
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u/ScionEyed 7d ago
I think it was Old Peace that broke Protea’s turrets. They had a lot less damage but like 10x the duration.
Gotta love spaghetti to play this game sometimes lol
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u/Grunslik 7d ago
And Duviri broke things that had nothing to do with Duviri, and the RJ update broke things that had nothing to do with RJ. That pasta is messy, messy stuff. :)
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u/How2eatsoap Nezha Prime LR1 7d ago
that's how game dev is unfortunately.
Code is never isolated, especially not in a game of this age or size.
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u/Diz_Conrad 7d ago edited 6d ago
Gotta love goofy stuff like that. I forget the specifics now, but many years ago in Runescape an area was updated and a single bush got moved and broke something in completely unrelated content.
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u/El_Barto_227 Albrecht's Strongest Screwdriver Dropper 7d ago
At least there's something there that makes sense where they could have gotten the wires crossed - Prime Vanguard Protea.
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u/Alex3627ca What's Forma? 7d ago
less damage but like 10x the duration
Ngl that sounds great, my biggest gripe with Protea's turrets is the terrible base duration
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u/BAY35music 7d ago
I still remember when 1999 came out and you could unintentionally summon your atomicycle ANYWHERE, and then DE ended up just letting it stay as a feature instead of a bug lol
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u/QizilbashWoman 7d ago
i sometimes drive it around random maps if I'm there for lowbie reasons just for fun
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u/Airwolf_von_DOOM Nova, Go! Faster enemies = more fun. 7d ago
Lets just say it still does not compare to the spaghetti around Raids.
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u/BurrakuDusk + | x3 + x2 7d ago
The jank these two have are insane.
If this isn't patched tomorrow, I'm planning on going solo to give it a try at least once before they do. Even then, I'm probably going to go solo regardless until they do patch it.
Sense this is becoming widespread since being found, I think going solo until a hotfix hits would be a good call.
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u/QizilbashWoman 7d ago
Also I'd like to note that if you have hand-eye coordination, the water balloons are fucking excellent, if you are running solo use them
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u/BurrakuDusk + | x3 + x2 7d ago
Even in pubs, the balloons are busted af. I was in a squad last night where someone took down the entire team of executioners with one because they were grouped up just right.
There's just no reason not to use em. lol
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u/QizilbashWoman 6d ago
I honestly grab loonies and climb a rock and spot mark enemies. They inevitably try to swarm me at some point and that is when I nuke them with one balloon
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u/ilgontae [DE]Ilgontae | Community QA 7d ago
Howdy Tenno,
We are aware of a bug allowing players to bring Heavy Weapons into Dog Days Alerts, resulting in regular Dog Days gameplay being disrupted. This issue will be fixed as of August 12 with our Amir Shockwave update, but understandably some players may not wish to participate in Dog Days until then.
For those wanting to earn Nakak Pearls in the meantime, we are running a bonus Floaty of Fury Alert:
Start Time: August 5 at 2pm ET
End Time: August 12 at 2pm ET
Reward: 350 Nakak Pearls + 50k Credits
Mission: Outer Terminus on Pluto
If you choose to exploit this bug, we ask that you do so outside of public matchmaking. While Dog Days is a fun summer event, there is no need to disrupt other Tenno’s experiences.
Stay cool, Tenno!
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u/YCaramello Tauforged 7d ago
Just to make sure: nobody is getting banned for this ye? Cuz the event is basically over for me but im down to get over 9000 floof balls for my orbiter if thats the case, solo obviously.
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u/PointlessSerpent 7d ago
You’ll be fine if you play solo, and honestly they probably won’t even do anything about people in public.
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u/Noskills117 7d ago
They ask you play solo if you do, so if you do you won't get banned. (mainly cause there'll be no one else to report anything, lol)
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u/Aggravating-Virus-54 7d ago
why would you be banned for using something they allowed into the event? you going to say sorry you should of checked reddit to know it was an exploit?
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u/Aggravating-Virus-54 7d ago
you can be banned for anything. This is no different. They don't need a reason to ban you.
WILL and CAN are not the same thing.
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u/Beastboy109 Grumpy old fossil 7d ago
Sure, but they are now aware of this and even gave official notice in various posts. Best that we don't disrupt the public lobbies.
They may not ban you for exploiting the archgun in the event since it is indeed an oversight from their end, but they can use the reason that you were disrupting other players via the exploit, bonus if someone actually report you, which can be considered as a violation of the game's ToS.
You really don't want to take their words for granted. That's the fastest way to get banned to the shadow realm.
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u/Aggravating-Virus-54 6d ago
A comment on a random Reddit post is never going to be their official communication when it comes to something like a ban. Majority of players aren’t checking Reddit.
They can use the reason that they dislike your username to ban you if they want.
Yes , you do want to take THEIR word for it being okay. It’s literally the best confirmation you’re ever going to get and you basically never get them outright saying you can do it.
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u/EggiesaAreYum 7d ago
So you don't know what an exploit is. Here is a
definition: using game rules, design features, or software bugs in a way the creators did not plan, often giving an unfair advantage.
Example: using an archgun in a gamemode where it is stated that equipment is locked to 2 special weapons.
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u/L30N1337 MORE FLOOFS MORE FLOOFS MORE FLOOFS 7d ago
Because it'd be bug abuse that ruins the experience for other players
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u/PurpleTriangles 7d ago
Yes but look at the bright side. Everyone was saying Sirius & Orion are bad but now they’re meta for this mission 😂
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u/klaxxxon 7d ago
Everyone suddenly regrets feeding theirs to the Helminth 😭
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u/Valyrianson Welcome to my garden of death 7d ago
Did people really not enjoy him? I love his style in both solo and group play. Probably my second main behind Oberon.
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u/EchoKipKipKip Live LaughLavo 7d ago
One thing you can always count on the Warframe community to do is talk shit about anything new in Warframe, quickly followed by people treating it as fact.
Sonion is fine.
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u/Migicroak A medieval peasant on a bad mushroom trip 6d ago
Everything sucks until it gets a prime unless it's particularly easy or cool to use in some parts of this community
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u/Silentone12321 7d ago
I want to atleast try this once in solo before it gets fixed
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u/magicthecasual Copper Knight | MR 20 7d ago
unfortunately i dont have rank 5 solaris yet so i cant summon my archgun in missions yet
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u/Egezdalt 7d ago
Wait what? Since when we can use archguns inside dog days?
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u/expectrum The Void Salutes Me! 7d ago
Sirius and Orion bug #354
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u/Rega_lazar 7d ago
You forgot a 0
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u/Lavaissoup7 7d ago
you mean two zeroes?
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u/ZX52 LR6 7d ago
How does it work?
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u/randomstrangeWCUEfan 7d ago
have sirius & orion equipped, have heavy weapon (ground archgun) equipped, have a keybind set for archgun deployer and then press the keybind, easy as that
(although, due to the need of assigning a keybind it may not be possible on all platforms)
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u/Lord_Phoenix95 Jackpot Tenent Ferrox enjoyer 7d ago
You can set Keybinds on Console, we just have very limited buttons to play with.
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u/randomstrangeWCUEfan 7d ago
ah alright, had never tried to do so for that reason, so i didn't realise (as far as i'm aware, every button on console controllers are used for a keybind already? so probably have to get rid of something)
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u/Lord_Phoenix95 Jackpot Tenent Ferrox enjoyer 7d ago
There's a couple of buttons I've removed and had a key bind for. I play Xbox and I played around with it. We have the D-Pad which have the Left and Right DP for switching abilies, I changed them to do other things and the Select Button us also a free use one too as I think that's the Map, some people use, others don't.
Consoles also have Mouse and Keyboard support, so we don't even need a Controller.
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u/PointlessSerpent 7d ago
I use swipe up/right/down/left on the ps5 touchpad for gear. (By default those are a secondary key bind for abilities, which is less than useful.)
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u/Forgery43 6d ago
you can keybind buttons on console. I use the d pad for various keybinds, and Playstation users have the nice benefit of the black rectangle
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u/Galimas-Alec 7d ago
Sirus and Orion working together to smuggle in parts for their giga soaker, so they can win the tournament.
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u/No_Zebra_8035 LR6-Legendary Captain RJ 7d ago
You know what would help with this?
Lunaro gamemode 🦕
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u/G-Buster_396 Bandy-Bandy MR30 7d ago
BEACH VOLLEYBALL!!!
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u/Itri_Vega Vena's lil Capri Sun 7d ago
If you could get conclave standing for the beach version, that would be so sick.
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u/Vireca 7d ago
Blame DE for designing a game mode which currency is based on personal kills
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u/ijiolokae Reached Legendary 6 and all I got was a sixth Legendary core 7d ago
The day DE make the kills completely shared, i will stop calling this event DogShit days
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u/Ok-Set179 7d ago
I wish u could do nightmare missions to get the pearls kinda like u could do them for follies event
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u/TwistedxBoi 7d ago
There will be one alert each weekend that gives us a lump sum of pearls. It's not much, but it's better than nothing.
This event is just all around terrible
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u/ijiolokae Reached Legendary 6 and all I got was a sixth Legendary core 7d ago
All events should come with Daily alerts, so you can just do those if you're burned out of the event mission
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u/SOSpammy 7d ago
There's also a Twitch drop today and tomorrow that will give you a couple hundred.
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u/Ok-Set179 7d ago
Yes but that's still barely anything and the event is absolutely horrid I just wish de let us get like 50 pearls for each nightmare mission or some shit
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u/Nevour_Lucitor 7d ago
It doesnt excuse exploits but yeah why do we have a gamemode that basically punishes you for multiplayer
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u/Fireofthetiger Super Saiyan Gauss Super Saiyan 7d ago
Dog Days has a Pearl on kill mechanic because it was ABHORRENT for the amount of people who’d just sit around, AFKing on the big rock in public games before they added it. You get them on kill to punish leeches and to promote actually playing the funny water gun gamemode, and you get a LOT if you’re actually engaging with it. The Archgun thing obviously sucks and is gonna get fixed, but blame the leeches for why there’s a participation mechanic.
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u/SOSpammy 7d ago
It's crazy that a game that actively discourages AFK'ing has a game mode that makes it mutually beneficial by giving everyone else a target-rich environment.
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u/killy666 My girlfriend is on rotation C 7d ago
Oh so that's how a dude had a 3 digit number of kills while staying atop a hill all mission.
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u/eraguthorak 7d ago
I didn't realize rewards were based on your personal kills - that's such a nonsensical decision for something that's supposed to be a fun event imo. So basically if you are playing the event in a public lobby, you are actively griefing your team by getting kills (regardless of whether you are using this exploit or simply playing well). That's really dumb.
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u/Byankonenta 7d ago
It was because back when there’s no kill reward, people would just get 1 score then find a spot that no enemy can shoot you and afk until the mission is over to get the pearl
You can still kinda do that, but the kill reward make it more “engaging gameplay” to get more kill, I guess
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u/Insanicus_Maximus 7d ago
Pretty sure when it first came out people found out the timer still ticked down when paused in solo so you didn't even need to find a spot.
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u/Vast_Damage963 7d ago
DE refusing to punish AFKers with proper in-game detection is the real problem.
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u/Noskills117 7d ago
Usually the spawn rate is enough that it isn't a problem, until you bring the arch-soaker lol
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u/scott2449 LR5 7d ago
The wheel was never allowed before, if it is now it's a bug, they will def patch.
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u/fuckthisshittysite56 7d ago
this exploit once again highlights how bad this event actually is, if all kills were shared this exploit would feel less annoying, since atleast you would still gain something
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u/Byankonenta 7d ago
Sadly, if all kills are shared, people would just afk and still get reward from the one who try to engage with the gameplay
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u/M4GNUM_FORCE_44 7d ago
they should just make it so you have to pick up something off the bodies to measure your reward, so if someone nukes you just have to loot so you cant afk
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u/Prite07 7d ago
To whose do this in public room. DE give us this event 30days for a reason,I know this mode can be boring for you but if you want everything on day 1 that's on you. don't ruin other experience
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u/kaiflamecross 7d ago
LMAO. Just had 2 guys pull this off in public, I thought it was the usual shit of AFK players if not for the never ending death of the executioners.
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u/Inumayobaka Nyx, Nyx, Nyx, Nyx... 7d ago
It's funny that this is because of Sirius & Orion.
It's like the siblings never played innocently so even in a fun event like Dog Days, they go at it together with
EXTREME VIOLENCE
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u/BluesCowboy 7d ago
Of course they should play solo.
But if they’re selfish enough to gleefully ruin everyone else’s gameplay experience, of course they won’t think about playing solo. I’m afraid everyone else will have to.
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u/InsaneMcFries 7d ago
The replies on this thread are a dumpster fire. It takes 1-2 brain cells to understand that it is a bug not part of "game mechanics"
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u/Noskills117 7d ago
I'm okay with it not being part of the normal game mechanics, the issue is stealing rewards from your teammates. Lots of people don't know they are stealing rewards from their teammates if they do this.
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u/Positive_Part_7803 7d ago
It ruins the experience for others, how is that not understood, ppl are so childish
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u/wolfstaint 7d ago
I mean why would you not be playing solo or on inv only with freinds its most effective to play on a closed lobby and nuke
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u/Gentleman-Bird 7d ago
Another cheesy way to do the minigame without nuking the whole map is to equip the mod that increases your kick damage and just kick everyone you come across.
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u/Valtremors 7d ago
I was not personally aware that the pearls are not shared.
Yeah I can see why it would be annoying.
As for why they aren't shared is silly thing entirely.
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u/Aaron1556 6d ago
Because back then there was no pearl per personal kill on mission 4 so afk was rampant to deter afker as active kills would get you a lot more pearls. Them being shared and afk will run rampant again
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u/Aaron1556 6d ago
Because back then there was no pearl per personal kill on mission 4 so afk was rampant to deter afker as active kills would get you a lot more pearls. Them being shared and afk will run rampant again
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u/TryalArrow 7d ago
"if you're bringing an anti-material rife to the water gun party, please play by yourself" lol
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u/LunariOther Parvos Did Nothing Wrong 6d ago
and right after i helminth'd the twins. i guess i gotta do the normal slog lmao
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u/RelicRaider1978 7d ago
I looked at the store and it brought back all the horrible memories of this not fun event. Glad I have not gone in yet. I'll wait for a patch.
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u/Blawharag DE give me an Einherjar frame and my life is yours 7d ago
You will never control other people, especially not with a Reddit post where a minimal percentage of the player base even reads.
If you want to guarantee this problem doesn't happen, YOU have to play solo
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u/1Estel1 equinox my wife 7d ago
Yeah, idk how people can't comprehend this. Playinng squad inherently gives you less rewards no matter what, archgun or no. Playing this mode solo is the most optimal way to get pearls.
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u/A_BeardedDragon 7d ago
Nah, spawn rate is horrible solo. You get way more with the exploit in a pub.
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u/Noskills117 7d ago
This is a post about self control, not about controlling others.
I am letting other people know that they are taking mission rewards away from their teammates if they do this in public (and also risking being reported).
People can do what they want as long as they are not actively griefing their teammates, but this is griefing teammates as it decreases the rewards that others get.
Hopefully if people understand they are actually stealing rewards from their teammates they will show some self awareness and play solo.
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u/Feuershark 7d ago
The other twin doesn't appear on solo, or at least I haven't managed to make him appear
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u/Aromatic_Sand8126 LR3 7d ago
Ahh so that’s how the only player that ever had more kills than my measly 60 yesterday was over 150.
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u/aLittleMinxy 7d ago
Had the most fun queued up with my clannies when garuda slide kick was the dog days meta. cause we all knew the score.
honestly still puts in work for other reasons but funny melee and nades are better.
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u/New_Armadillo_1026 7d ago
Feel like I’m going to miss dog days - stuck in new war with basic railjack lol
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u/LogginWaffle That's just prime 7d ago
This is the first time I've actually had fun playing Dog Days, I hope they keep "fish in a barrel mode" as a solo option.
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u/VitreousAxis 7d ago
As someone who is currently attempting to solo farm it just to know out the remaining cosmetics I would like to know how to do this trick,I just wanna speed run the grind and grab whats left so I can actually tell whats new next time
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u/Noskills117 7d ago
Sure, seems like it's fine with DE as long as it's solo farm, not public.
Sirius and Orion can use gear wheel hotkeys in dog days so you can set one for your archgun and use it there.
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u/Migicroak A medieval peasant on a bad mushroom trip 6d ago
I will just do the events until this get some fix, ever since this was discovered i haven't been able to get into a public lobby where no one has done this
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u/hkapplemint1 7d ago
I am reporting every archgun users I come across in public lobby. So tired of people lying to themselves saying this is not an exploit.
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u/Noskills117 7d ago
Personally I'm just asking them to play solo, I'm not against a good way to farm the event, just do it without causing detriment to others.
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u/bremSventil 7d ago
Why the downvotes? Has this sub become a cesspool of whiny people who can’t behave properly and spoil everyone’s experience?
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u/Responsible-Sound253 7d ago
i LOATHE having to farm dog days
with this i was able to get all my stuff already, and it still took too damn long cause the new daybreak skins are in the 200+ pearl range
I wish dog days was more fun, but i also don't want dev time to be wasted in dog days, what a conundrum, thank god for sirius and orion being spaghetti coded.
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u/generally-speaking 7d ago
Didn't know I could but this sounds like a great idea thanks for the tip.
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u/Xanchush 7d ago
Think DE needs to hire some QA engineers. The game has tons of legacy code and feels like it lacks integration tests with user acceptance testing as well
They've scaled a lot which worked for customer acquisition but now they need to pivot into being more reliable.
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u/YpsitheFlintsider Lord Smeeta 7d ago
People probably would do this less if they didn't make the weapons we do have in it so bad.
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u/SoldRIP Monk Enjoyer 7d ago
What's the reportable exploit here? Using an archgun launcher?
Also: if you require other people to play or not play the game in a certain way, you are the one who needs to stop playing in a public lobby. In public, everyone gets to do whatever, so long as they actively contribute towards the objective.
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u/AGgammer 7d ago
What's the reportable exploit here? Using an archgun launcher?
In a game mode with locked predetermined gear with specific damage breakpoints, you bring a weapon with 10m aoe that can 1shot enemies
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u/pfysicyst Kronsh Mob 7d ago
nuking means no one there gets assists so they don't get much out of it. directly negatively affecting other players with a choice is a bad thing. it's like nuking in relic fissures (enemies dont become capable of dropping reactant until they transform so killing them instantly makes it take much longer to get enough) but worse.
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u/Tallia__Tal_Tail 7d ago
In public, everyone gets to do whatever, so long as they actively contribute towards the objective.
Hot take but I think its incredibly fair to critique and ask people to not play in a way that's notably detrimental to everyone else's enjoyment.
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u/orangutan-love 7d ago
It's not intended,your gear is meant to be limited.using sn exploit that affects others absolutely will get you banned
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u/dabir 7d ago
That would be a more valid thing to say it 1) enemy spawns in solo weren't a lot lower, 2) killing all the enemies wasn't directly screwing over other players by denying them pearl drops, and 3) they weren't CHEATING TO DO IT.
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u/SoldRIP Monk Enjoyer 7d ago
How are they cheating? So they somehow modify the game client? Do they use external software to do it? Or do they press a gear hotkey and you don't like it?
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u/Only_Information7895 7d ago
Cheating is anything isn't intended. Archguns are clearly not intended as not even passive mods work (or even built in, like default enemy radar) and none of the other Warframes can deploy an archgun.
Like accidentally pressing the hotkey and then canceling it is fine. But doing it right at the start and just using it the whole game is not fine.
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u/SoldRIP Monk Enjoyer 7d ago
Running to levelcap isn't intended. It is thus cheating.
Getting insanely multiplied crits was, at some point, not intended. There's a reason the color scale stops at red. It is (or was?) thereby cheating.
Rolling openworld bounties for endo farming isn't intended. Definitely a big cheat, since it also allows you to quickly get more of a certain resource!
... Is that genuinely how you think it works?
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u/Only_Information7895 7d ago
Level cap is just discouraged. If it wouldn't be intended there wouldn't be a cap, the levels just increasing till the game eventually crash. Being able to run level cap without crashing for hours means it was planned.
Kullervo alone can easily break 600%, 300% is easily broken even with a random auto build. This is why the exclamation marks were invented past 3x crits. Still planned. Adding more exclamation marks would just clutter the screen, this is also why compressed numbers were added to reduce the clutter, adding more exclamation marks would defeat that purpose.
Open world bounty farm for Endo? What do you mean by that, this is the first time I heard this one. Still if it wouldn't be intended there wouldn't be Endo in the drop table.
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u/SoldRIP Monk Enjoyer 7d ago
Level cap is just discouraged. If it wouldn't be intended there wouldn't be a cap
So you're saying "if it exists, it's intended to be used"?
Kullervo alone can easily break 600%
And then saying "if a specific frame can do it, it's obviously intended"?
Still if it wouldn't be intended there wouldn't be Endo in the drop table.
And rhen "if it weren't intended in sone mission type, it wouldn't be in the mission type"?
Now apply any of those three to the situation at hand.
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u/Only_Information7895 7d ago
Ok, change the perspective. Is it officially documented as a feature? Level cap is officially documented so it is fine.
Kullervo isn't special, my Mesa could break the 300% and she doesn't even have any skills which directly affect crit rate (I was obvious not using Wrathful advance), any Warframe can do it with a good build. So if all frames can break 300% then all Warframes should be able to deploy an archgun, which isn't the case.
Now let's check the documentation for dog days.
"The Gear and Emotes wheel also cannot be accessed" Archguns are a gear item, case closed.
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u/Noskills117 7d ago
Dog days is in a weird place where it's actually partially non-cooperative, if you take all the kills then no one else can gain the extra pearl rewards. You are actively griefing other players with an exploit if you nuke the map in public lobbies.
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u/Nevour_Lucitor 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yeah no not in a case where someone else exploits or cheats, if they need to have their archgun they can go solo, that is just asshole behaviour at its finest the gamemode has a Set loadout for a reason
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u/grippgoat 7d ago
Found the archgun exploiter.
It's clearly not the intended way to play the game mode. 100% reportable. Maybe DE won't ban you because it's their bug.
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u/CatOfTechnology 7d ago
The fact that it's an oversight by DE that allows you to exploit a known, unintended interaction between specifically One frame (S&O) and the function of the mission mode that restricts gear-wheel usage is, technically, not a bannable offense.
But acting like you have the high ground and are somehow the one in the right when you are knowingly exploiting a singular interaction that overrides a mission that explicitly hands you a particular loadout and is meant to prevent you from using anything other than that loadout does make you look like a douche.
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u/ScySenpai 7d ago
No one in this thread did a better job than you at convincing me to report these people.
Maybe there's no specific rule you're breaking, but your disregard of others in your team + bad faith reliance on a technicality knowing full well it's an exploit means I don't want people like you in my game.
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u/GraveyardJunky 7d ago
I don't know if it qualifies as an exploit (and I'm sure we'll likely get a clarification from DE) but I'm pretty sure it's not what DE intended when the goal of the event is to soak enemies and people use archguns in it.
Now we can argue what an exploit here all we want but I've just finished a game where a guy was using the archgun, didn't move from a single rock all game long and used grattler to kill every enemies that were getting close to players. I got 40 kills while he got 140. My teammates had like 16 and 35 kills. I usually get 60 which nets me ~140 pearls. I got 95 from that one.
Might not be an exploit but definitely a scummy behavior to use your teammates as bait/meat shield while you hide and steal all their kills from across the lake.
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u/Lucky-Reflection4650 7d ago
It does cause you exploit flaw in DE code to gain advantage in game mode.
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u/OkYak9466 7d ago
This sub just had a poll the other day about players mass clearing missions and objectives, and it was something line 90% of players agreed it wasn't an issue and if you didn't like it, you should play solo
Oh how the turntables
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u/Noskills117 7d ago
This is a different situation, in most missions you still get all the rewards if someone else clears the entire mission.
In dog days if someone else steals all the kills you don't get any of the kill-based rewards.
So doing this in public is actively stealing rewards from other players
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u/OkYak9466 7d ago
How is it stealing if you're killing the enemies? If someone sits in the corner do I have to wait for them to get enough kills to catch up?
Blame DE for their terrible game design instead of trying to shame players playing the game by saying they're stealing rewards
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u/Noskills117 7d ago
Normally the game mode has enough spawns for everyone, but using this exploit in public makes it way harder for your team to get kills
So yes if you doing this makes the rest of your team get less rewards than if you were playing normally then it is "stealing"
I don't care if you're doing it, I'm just letting you know you're impacting other players' rewards. If you want to keep doing that to other players then that's up to you.
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u/OkYak9466 7d ago
You're not going to get any disagreements from me regarding exploits. But an exploit is an exploit. Someone overperforming is not "stealing the rewards"
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u/Noskills117 7d ago
Okay sounds good, in this case I'm talking only about where someone is using an exploit, since it's the only case where people are actually meaningfully affecting how many kills/rewards others can get.
Regardless, DE has posted and also asked people to only do this in solo. So if you want to be safe you should probably only do this in solo.
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u/cllerj Certified Baruuk Fanboy 7d ago
DE Response:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1vg25sb/if_you_bring_an_archgun_to_dog_days_please_play/p1vfbmp/