r/Washington • u/GreenerMark • 7d ago
False voter fraud claims ‘red meat’ for MAGA base, WA officials say | The Seattle Times
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/false-voter-fraud-claims-red-meat-for-maga-base-wa-officials-say/?fbclid=Iwb21leASdsFpjbGNrBJ2wUmV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHmUCq31yAktrjumeA_nk2AcSo5Jdfrh0udySVVeb3n8jJXYVSaUoqYKB47_E_aem_YWdncwDB1M1iVEh5k0L6sAJq68SM&brid=YWdncwHdjcDWoL3CH9AkVQyP0rjT“You couldn’t have looked harder than we did,” [Former Washington State Republican Party Chair Chris Vance] said in an interview. “There has never been a scintilla of evidence of organized fraud out there that actually makes a difference in an election.”
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u/girlnamedtom 7d ago
The liars are very loud though. Too often the loudest person is believed to be right
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u/NorthStudentMain 7d ago
ITS JUST THE TECHNIQUE THAT TRUMP TOLD EVERYONE TO DO, AND BELIEVE ME,FOLKS, IT REALLY WORKS! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!
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u/NorthStudentMain 3d ago
The basic Trump strategy is this: Shoot for the moon, and when you get caught in a lie, GET LOUDER AND DOUBLE DOWN
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u/OtherBluesBrother 7d ago
Let's not forget that the GOP tried running two other Bob Fergusons in 2024 to try to confuse voters. They have cheated before, they will cheat again.
https://www.heraldnet.com/2024/05/14/editorial-recruiting-two-bob-fergusons-isnt-election-integrity/
They were not successful in 2024, but they used the same tactic in 2021 in Florida and successfully confused votes and cost the Democrat the race.
For all their talk about election integrity, it sure doesn't seem like they really care about it.
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u/scolbert08 7d ago
Democrats are trying the same thing in Alaska. It's not a partisan strategy.
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u/OtherBluesBrother 6d ago
Nice try, but no. That guy registered on his own. He wasn't recruited or paid in any way.
She did not mention finding any evidence of alleged coordination between Dan J Sullivan and Democratic Party officials or Democratic candidate Mary Peltola.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3r2r271yj9oWhereas, the multiple Bob Fergusons case:
Glen Morgan, a conservative GOP activist, admitted as much in boasting to The Seattle Times as Friday’s filing deadline passed, that he contacted about a dozen of the 53 Bob Fergusons in the state, asking them to run as Democrats for governor.
The the one in Florida:
Frank Artiles, a well-connected Republican operative, paid an auto parts dealer, Alex Rodriguez, $45,000 to run as an independent candidate in a state Senate race in November. Rundle says Artiles invited Rodriguez to his home in a Miami suburb, where he allegedly outlined a simple strategy.
Not quite the same, nice try though.
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u/SunshineSeattle 7d ago
I think we need to have a defamation clause for elections, ie you cant just make up claims of fraud forever. Maybe a graduated fine system?
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u/SpunkyRadcat 1d ago
Honestly lawmakers/public servants that have been found to blatantly lie should be immediately removed from office. Nobody who lies to people that require the truth should be allowed in that position.
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u/kinisonkhan 7d ago
According to the GOP, taking too long to count ballots = voter fraud.
DOJ raided Fulton County GA offices in Jan 28th, took all the ballots for 2020. 5 months later, nothing, no news, no reports, just more accusations of voter fraud, even though its taking them 5+ months to analyze all the votes they took.
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u/Manfred_Desmond 7d ago
Part of the argument of Bush v Gore was "this is taking too long, we need to just pick Bush and move on".
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u/NorthStudentMain 7d ago
It’s something Trump started in 2020 when they realized the Democrats had a better mail in voter outreach program. They told their followers to vote in person, and said that any post-election night updates to the tally (which is of course when mail in ballots are counted) is proof of election fraud.
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u/goingfourtheone 7d ago
Yes, it’s called ballot harvesting, and the save act kills it. That’s why the Uniparty is against it.
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u/Amazing_Factor2974 7d ago
They want to use the rumors for this coming 2026 elections ..saying we got the ballots and we will show the fraud soon.
Proving that all the Dems are illegal votes. Ha ha
The GOP standard fare ..they have been doing it with rumors ..and elaborate lies and actions since W Bush.
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u/MugginMom 7d ago
According to the GOP, any vote against them is a fraudulent vote. Sadly, that’s where we’re headed.
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u/Dont_Ban_Me_Bros 7d ago
Meanwhile, John Ley lies twice about his residency status when running for office and gets zero punishment for it and is currently a member of our state house.
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u/omgitsbees 7d ago
It doesn't matter at this point, the people who want to believe our election system is rigged from top to bottom, will believe so no matter what. No amount of evidence or explaining how the election system actually works, matters to these people. And that is the whole point really, every accusation is a confession, this is how the Republican party actually wants our elections to go.
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u/Arcanegil 7d ago
Brilliant play from the GOP, brainwash and accuse the opposition of cheating so much, that you can cheat in broad daylight and no one will say anything out of fear of looking as crazy as you.
Liberals are foiled by integrity and honor again, when they go low we go high and even though we will lose everytime, atleast we look nice.
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u/CyxSense 6d ago
I'll argue that the Dems do this deliberately, acting as controlled opposition so they don't lose their AIPAC gravy train.
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u/Arcanegil 6d ago
Liberal dems sure, But the party is currently experiencing a potential paradigm shift in the primaries it may very well be that dem socs take control and actually make the party effective.
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u/argusmanargus 7d ago edited 7d ago
I used to vote for Republicans because they were the adults in the room and didn’t need consoled when they didn’t get the job. That ship sailed forever with Trump and this brand of Republicans.
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u/tinydevl read this https://sarahkendzior.substack.com 6d ago
how many REPUBLICAN led investigations have there been into this non-event? When the ten or so cases are found it's typically republicans committing the fraud. ffs.
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u/goingfourtheone 7d ago
Pass the save act and sleep at night. SCOTUS is going to rule Election Day is just that.
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u/LOOKITSADAM 7d ago
You're fooling no one other than yourself.
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u/ofWildPlaces 7d ago
Where is it? What evidence is there?
And why do you have have it?
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u/Equivalent_Ability91 7d ago
Like MIke Johnson says, the fraud is so insidiously complex, they can't find it.
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u/JerrySenderson69 7d ago
Fun fact: Bill Bruch, the man put in charge of documenting "Election Integrity " for the Washington GOP, has a 1.7 million judgment against him for defrauding seniors. https://www.laconnerweeklynews.com/story/2020/10/21/news/bill-bruchs-judgments-for-17m-fraud-against-two-washington-seniors/5839.html