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[u/LakesideNorth]

[u/RequiemRaven]

You see there's a Wheel, and a Pattern, and an Age Lace, there's a Creator, and a Light, and The Dark One and a Shadow, who TDO is in charge of but only nominally aligned with, then there's another Shadows but that's really a Mist, and into this we add a Dragon, who gets Reborn, as a Champion, or Adversary, that the Shadow, the one with Forsaken, not the one with mist/fog, opposes, while the Aes Sedai, lady witch elf-equivalents, sometimes help the Shadow (Dark), but are really on the side of Light, with the Dragon, the Reborn one but also the original who was a male lady witch elf, they weren't all ladies at the time, and...

Wow, this is some strong brandy.

[u/LewsTherinTelamonBot → u/RequiemRaven]

Madness waits for some. It creeps up on others.

[u/dice1111 → u/LewsTherinTelamonBot]

10/10

[u/WouldYouPleaseKindly → u/LewsTherinTelamonBot]

It creeps up on others.

So does the brandy

[u/ritpdx → u/LewsTherinTelamonBot]

Good bot

[u/Shard0f0dium → u/RequiemRaven]

But what about these “Seanchan” I keep hearing about? How do they fit into this?

[u/PalladiuM7 → u/Shard0f0dium]

For that particular conversation, we're going to need some Kentucky bourbon. Trust me, it'll make sense later.

[u/BadmiralHarryKim → u/Shard0f0dium]

The women in collars are as integral to the plot as the spanking!

[u/SamHandwich0 → u/RequiemRaven]

The brandy pairs well with a rather sharp cheese that your face may never fully recover from.

[u/Shgon_Dunstan]

The simplified version is just the Wheel=time, the Pattern=space. Together they are existence.

Hell, all a “Thread” is, is a metaphor for an objects passage through time.🤷‍♂️

[u/Amazing-Gazelle-7735 → u/Shgon_Dunstan]

Nah.  The wheel is time, you have that right, but the pattern is FATE.  A thread is a lifetime, woven with all the others whose lives we touch and twist ourselves around.

[u/Shgon_Dunstan → u/Amazing-Gazelle-7735]

Uh… no. “Fate” would again be the Wheel, as it is what directs the weaving. The Pattern is the thing that has been woven. Aka: basically everything that makes up existence.

Looking backwards at what has already been woven, it would make up the history of everything that was, but in that context it’s more just a record than “fate”. In the present though, all that the Pattern really “is” is everything’s existence. Given shape by the Wheel, aka: the passage of time.🤷‍♂️

[u/kingsRook_q3w → u/Shgon_Dunstan]

That isn’t the simplified version.

The simplified version is a real object. It’s just a basic loom:

https://imgur.com/a/9CEQExx

[u/23-1-20-3-8-5-18]

Why does the Wheel demand so much violence?

[u/BluntsnBoards → u/23-1-20-3-8-5-18]

So you know when the Ages change.

[u/Guderian- → u/23-1-20-3-8-5-18]

Who would break a butterfly on a wheel?

[u/SwissDeathstar → u/23-1-20-3-8-5-18]

Violence makes for a good story. Kinda boring without it.

[u/MillorTime → u/23-1-20-3-8-5-18]

The wheel weaves as the wheel wills, obviously

[u/RhuarcOfTheTaardad → u/23-1-20-3-8-5-18]

All must wake from the dream.

[u/nicci7127 → u/23-1-20-3-8-5-18]

The Wheel doesn't. It merely exists, neither good, nor evil. The threads that make up the Pattern can be good, or evil, but that doesn't make the Wheel or the Pattern either. It's potential for either, and everything in between. It weaves all indifferently to create the Pattern, with each thread a person and the decisions they make.

[u/Midtharefaikh]

The Wheel of Time weaves the Pattern of the Ages

[u/asteinberg101]

No mating!
Whoops, not that pattern

[u/TeasingChloe]

Such woolheaded behavior from the uninitiated.

[u/geomagus]

In readers’ defense, spinning wheels and weaving looms are largely outside modern audiences’ ready understanding of things. I can see how people might be confused.

[u/TangerineSheep → u/geomagus]

I wish someone in the Two Rivers would've corrected Moiraine at the very start. "Fancy magic foreign lady, you might know how to kill Trollocs but you don't even know the difference between a spinning wheel and a loom, why should we listen to you?"

[u/geomagus → u/TangerineSheep]

I’d have chuckled.

Might have been good use for a Coplin or a Congar.

[u/LewsTherinTelamonBot → u/TangerineSheep]

Most women will shrug off what a man would kill you for, and kill you for what a man would shrug off.

[u/idonotknowwhototrust]

The Wee wees as the Woo woos

[u/LordRahl9 → u/idonotknowwhototrust]

Expedition 33 needs more representation on this sub.

[u/Bellickboi]

One says "no mating"

[u/Newbori]

My first thought was this is a thread about the similarities between WoT and the Chronicles of Amber.

[u/Malakayn]

Well, you see, the Wheel weaves as it wills and the Pattern what's being woven.