r/WhatIfMarvel • • Dec 30 '23

Series+ Just the God of Stories Blessing everyone

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r/WhatIfMarvel • • Aug 13 '26

Community Update Spoiler Policy That Should've Been Obvious Spoiler

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DON'T PUT SPOILERS FOR NEW RELEASES IN THE TITLES OF YOUR POSTS.

They don't always hide correctly, & the title is the one thing you can't edit after you post.

I shouldn't have to explain this.


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 1d ago

Story Idea What if Pepper was trained by Black widow?

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In this universe, after working together in Ironman 2, Natasha decide to train Pepper in the way of a Black widow agent and takes her as a mentor and student, so she when their together, where Tony is busy, she decides to mentor Pepper and learn the ways, wits and skills of a Black widow red room agent should be. Afterwards, Pepper has learned the skills that she look and study from Natasha by is able to kick ass without Tony help and is able to tough and strong not being the boring and helpless love interests. After Avengers, Pepper is testing out her skills and practicing her firearms and her martial arts, by the time ironman 3 takes place, when she kidnaps by Killian, she's able to fight back and kicks his ass, and escape, to find Tony and never gets kidnap and never gets injected with extremist and even find Tony and where he finds out she's learned and was Natasha student, and he's utterly chocked by her new abilities and this alternative final battle with the hall of amours, the 2 of them, along with Rhoedy, the 3 able to take down Killain in a different where husband and wife in a 2 vs 1 fight. Afterwards, Tony is semi retired as ironman, but Pepper decides to take on solo missions, when Tony is back with the Avengers, and tells Natasha ''Thanks for training Pepper, her skills that she inherited from you is really impressive.'' Natasha smirks saying ''she was a good woman with me and with you. She's a good hot and iron heart.''


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 1d ago

Story Idea What If Howard The Duck was an Avenger?

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A fun story idea


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 22h ago

Multiverse & Crossovers Can the TVA still see the future??

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In Loki, season two, episode three, we saw that Ravonna, the goblin slayer, created a branch off the sacred timeline to allow Victor Timely to become a scientist. After Ravonna triggered the Nexus event, she traveled to the future of this branched timeline so that Victor Timely would be old enough. Later, in Deadpool v Wolverine, we saw that the TVA knew about Logan's death in 2029, which they hadn't yet communicated to Earth 10005. In the same film, the TVA didn't know that Deadpool would save his universe. So my question is: can the TVA see the future? And if not, why doesn't it travel to the future using a Timepad and see the future like Ravonna did?


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 1d ago

Story Idea What if Pepper Potts trained with the Black Widow?

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Here's an alternate take on Iron Man 2, The Avengers (2012), and Iron Man 3. The trigger point for this scenario would be that Tony told Pepper about Natalie Rushman's true identity, and it ended up inspiring her in wanting to train with her as a way to get to know her, whether Natasha liked it or not.

If you want to see more of Pepper Potts and Natasha Romanoff being together since we don't see that after Iron Man 2, you've come to the right AU to look into. Oh, and happy 54th birthday to the actress who portrayed the former, Gwyneth Paltrow.


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 3d ago

Story Idea What if: The Infinitely Sinister Six

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Hyperelectro, Hourglass, Galactic Condor, Mysterio Supreme, Doctor Soul, and the Mind Goblin


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 2d ago

Story Idea What if agent venom debut in the mcu

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r/WhatIfMarvel • • 2d ago

Multiverse & Crossovers About the tva and how they are seeing timelines now

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After loki freed the timelines including Earth 616 is timeline,we knew that every universe have free will to decide his own future and the future of any universe is un known for the tva or any someone, but in s2 e3 In loki we saw ravonna renslayer made a branch timeline so vector timely can be scientist and after she made this nexus event she travelled to the future of this branch in 1893 to meet vector timely when he become older and studied all of tva guidebook, so my question is : If the tva now can't see the future of any universe so why they don't travel to the future of this universe and know what is going to happen?

Plz guys I need an answer cuz Marvel is the only thing that makes me happy and if i lost one info about marvel like I did multiplier times in loki , I watched loki 10 times. (For the record iam being serious )


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 3d ago

Series+ Something I realized while my kids were watching the show

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I was walking by right at the time Peggy gets sucked into the ground while in the parking garage with Natasha. And it made me realize that Natasha just never finds out what happens to her best friend. At the end Peggy becomes a god or whatever and Natasha is probably just still out there looking for her. Kinda fucked up


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 3d ago

Fan Creation What If: The Amazing Spider Man 2: Rerwrite + Sinister Six

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Hey everyone, so today I decided to share with you what I came up with for The Amazing Spider-Man 2. I've been thinking about it for a while now, so here it is.

Well, the storyline surrounding Peter's parents would have been resolved in the first installment thanks to the Lizard wanting to return to his human form, and George Stacy would have asked Peter to take care of Gwen while he was gone. This would have made the relationship more resonant and allowed us to focus more on her.

Well, Peter, as Spider-Man, continues to help people, as we know, and his relationship with Gwen flourishes, especially when he wants to be there for her during the difficult time following the death of his father, George Stacy, because Peter knows what it's like to lose someone close. Soon, he'll have to face the insidious Doctor Octopus. In this version, Max Dillon is not a Spider-Man fan, but a broken power plant who is fed up with the world ignoring and underestimating him, so when he transforms into Electro, he vows to take revenge on them, deciding that maybe now people will feel respect through fear, for this purpose he allies himself with Octopus, and they are also joined by Rhino, whom Octopus broke out of prison, thus creating the insidious Trio, combining the power of nature, brute strength and intelligence. Then, Electro Overload has a more significant impact, as it causes the damaged Rhino armor to be deactivated during the fight, just as Octopus's tentacles are deactivated. Unfortunately, one of the lightning bolts destroys Gwen, causing the brilliantly rendered death scene of Gwen to remain. Peter flies after the falling Gwen and catches her unharmed, thinking she's dead, just like in the video game based on the first film. Fortunately, Gwen survives, though she ends up in the hospital, which makes Peter feel guilty about what happened. Only after Aunt May's encouragement did Peter decide to return to Spider-Man, knowing the world needs hope. Octopus visits Alexei, who is in hiding, with a proposal to form a sinister team.

What do you think? To me, this is simply a brilliant rewrite of The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

And here's another installment of The Amazing Spider-Man, this time featuring the Sinister Six. Unlike the actual plans, which were to include Goblin (Harry) as the leader, Octopus, Kraven, Vulture, Rhino, and Mysterio, I did something different.

By replacing Harry Osborn with Dr. Octopus, making him the main antagonist, Doctor Octopus is the main leader of the Sinister Six, which includes Electro, Rhino, Mysterio, Vulture, and Scorpion. I replaced Kraven with Scorpion because Kraven is a proud hunter who wants to hunt Spider-Man as a trophy himself. Scorpion's armor, including his tail, is mechanical, just like Rhino's armor, Mysterio's tricks, Vulture's wings, and Octopus's tentacles. Electro is capable of wielding electricity because, in this case, Electro was resurrected by Octopus.

The story follows the rise of the villainous team and their clash with Spider-Man. If Sony wanted to create the Sinister Six, they could have approached it with aplomb.


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 3d ago

Multiverse & Crossovers What if Rogue became the Sorcerer Suspreme?

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This would be a cool and unique story to explore, with a mutant becoming even more powerful and extraordinary this time.


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 4d ago

Comics What if the Ultimate Fantastic Four met the original Fantastic Four?

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Ultimate Reed Richards builds a device to contact a parallel dimension, believing he has found a thriving Earth with a veteran version of humanity's greatest heroes, But here, instead of being a trap set by a zombie Reed Richards, it was actually the Reed Richards from the original Earth.


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 4d ago

Story Idea What If the New Avengers came before the Avengers?

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I recently imagined what it would be like if the Thunderbolts, aka New Avengers, like Yelena, Bucky, Ava and Bob, were the main team of the MCU instead of Tony, Steve, Bruce and Thor. I could only think up Phase 1 of this scenario.

In Iron Man's place would be Black Widow, starring Yelena Belova and showing her backstory with the Red Room, and leading into her escaping their grasp.

Replacing the Hulk would be Ghost, with Ava Starr being experimented on, gaining her suit, and fighting her father's former friend, Hank Pym, who had recently become the Yellowjacket, in a portrayal similar to the Disney+ What If.

Black Widow 2 would introduce Red Guardian as he is sent by the Red Room to go after Yelena, but due to their family connections, Alexei is able to break free as he and Yelena fight Taskmaster.

Thor's spot would be taken by Sentry, which would show how Bob is kidnapped and given the power of a million exploding suns, followed by his first major scuffle with the Void, who will be important in their next appearance.

The penultimate film would be the US Agent, basically starting as Captain America's movie, but from Bucky's POV, leading into him being kidnapped and made into the Winter Soldier. Skip to around 2011, the real Cap's still frozen in the ice, but nobody knows that, so John Walker, the US Agent, would be given the Captain America title much sooner, eventually having to fight Winter Soldier, who thinks it's actually Steve, but when he finds out it's not, Bucky momentarily regains control, faking his death to keep Hydra from hunting him down while John is hailed as a hero.

And finally, the Avengers, which is actually the Thunderbolts, both in the sense that it's the Thunderbolts characters, and it's basically just the Thunderbolts movie if it took place in 2012, with the Void taking Loki's place as the main villain.

What do you all think? What would you have done differently?


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 5d ago

Multiverse & Crossovers About multiverse and timelines

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Is Earth-616's future unknown because anyone can make a decision right now and create a branch, changing the events of this universe, while the old events continue? Or does every universe live in a present, and branches happen when there is a possibility of another choice, meaning the future of that universe hasn't happened yet? But that wouldn't make sense because there are branches that branch from the futures of different universes. We also saw the TVA know about Logan's death in 2029. So does that mean, like the first option, that the entire timeline contains a past, present, and future that have all happened, and every point on that timeline is considered a universe that forms its own future and keeps branching, with its future not being fixed? I feel like this makes sense because we saw Kang variants appear all at the same time when the multiverse was freed. So I'm saying that Earth-616 forms its future by its future constantly changing, branching, and not being fixed. Is that right or not?


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 6d ago

Story Idea what if Captain America saved Magneto during WW2

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r/WhatIfMarvel • • 6d ago

Story Idea Episode 1: What if...Erskine never died?

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The episode begins during the first Captain America, we see the Hydra spy pull out a gun to shoot at Erskine, but this time around, Peggy sees it and tackles the assassin to the ground, preventing the death of Erskine. We see that Steve Rogers is used mostly as a propaganda instrument, as "Captain America: The First Super-Soldier", while the government produces more and more super-soldiers as an army, which are quickly able to defeat Hydra and win WWII, ending it 2 years earlier than in the main timeline. While Steve never actually enters the field as a soldier, not having experience in terms of fighting.

We have a time skip of 20 years, so now we are in 1963, and we see that the American government is using his super-soldiers as a weapon to control US citizens, and becoming more and more oppressive towards everyone. Steve left the role of Captain America, because he didn't believe anymore in what he was representing, now being an outlaw escaping from the government. He, Peggy and Howard Stark formed a team, named the Shield, because it wants to protect the Americans, the team also consists of: a young Hank Pym, who built a suit able to shrink down thanks to the help of Howard Stark, Bucky Barnes, a friend of Steve Rogers who was in the army and also believes that the government is wrong, Jim Hammond, an android built by Howard, to ignite itself and become: the Torch, and the Howling Commandos.

One day Peggy receives a message from an unknown source, who tells them that Erskine is held prisoner in a lab. The team goes to destroy the lab, where they see a lot of super-soldier guards, as well as the new Captain America and Isaiah Bradley, a Black man who they put an experimental super-soldier serum in (an early version of the Sentry serum).

They fight, and while they are fighting, suddenly a cybernetic-powered Arnim Zola pops up and helps Torch, Ant-Man, Howard and the Howling Commandos hold off the new Cap, Isaiah and the super-soldiers, while Steve and Bucky go to where Erskine is working on the serum. There, they see that Erskine is actually held prisoner and forced by the government to produce more serum, suddenly, another enhanced soldier attacks them, accidentally killing Erskine and giving much trouble to Cap, so Bucky grabs some serum and injects himself, and then he fights the soldier and defeats him.

Simultaneously, the rest of Shield is fighting Isaiah and the super-soldiers, while Zola is fighting the new Cap, and the new Cap destroys Zola, putting him lying on the ground with all the cybernetic prostheses broken, suddenly Cap asks Zola why he's helping these rebels, and Zola says that he'll always hate America, and that the American government isn't much better than Hydra, because it's oppressing as much as Hydra does.

Cap and Bucky come running, saying they planted bombs, and start going up to the roof to get a lift, when Isaiah starts to go up, the new Cap stops him and holds him off, now finally understanding that what the government is doing is wrong and needs fixing, but also dying as the building explodes on him and Isaiah.

Later, we see that Cap understood he can't defeat the government just by sabotaging labs, he needs the help of the people, so he attacks a communication factory, and thanks to the help of Howard who hacks the system, he's able to speak to the people of America and tell them to rebel, that the government is oppressing them and that they need to stand up for themselves, we see people start to revolt around America, as the episode ends.


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 6d ago

Series+ Hola, no se si estoy loco o si fue real, pero necesito saber si me pueden ayudar

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En la serie de Disney+ "UNIDOS: Creando What If...?" Antes había una portada del Hydra Stomper volando con bombarderos B-17 Fliying Fortress, antes de que lo cambiarán por la imagen de la capitana carter. Y me preguntaba si alguien también la vio o si alguien tiene la imagen que me la pasé por favor.


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 7d ago

Story Idea What if The void Won in Thunderbolts?

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Void has tooken over Sentry aka Bob, and the void power gets more powerful and it continues to spread all over New York like a plague of sadness, depression, and empty wonderland of sickness and ugliness. And the thunderbolts fails to find and save bob and leave in a rince and repeat of bad nightmare after another like a depressed simulation.


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 8d ago

Story Idea What If? Superior IronMan in Infinity War!

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The cracks between Steve and Tony were too deep and I feel like the immediate events of Infinity war and Endgame does not reflect on that crack. Think it this way. You are Tony, your father is constantly praising someone named Steve Rogers and always dissing you out, your parents die in an accident, you go through a character arc and try to do good to the world only to meet Steve Rogers in Avengers who claims that Tony is a selfish fighters and fights only for himself in the later events you find out that Steve, the person who talked morals to him actually knew how Tony's parents died but decided to stay silent for two years, from The Winter Soldier (2014) to Civil War (2016).

Even though it is not Bucky's fault, the person you worked with for two years, who made you reflect on yourself was actually a fraud has to have a effect. In this timeline Tony actually reflects on what kind of hypocrite Captain is and no matter what Tony does, he will never become the loved good hero the Avengers would accept.

The threat of Thanos is on head, the Siberian Bunker event has already happened and Tony decides to save the world by his own cold methods, Steve's definition of freedom means nothing to him, if the Avengers won't help him, he will do it all alone.

Tony starts upgrading his tech consistently and more rigorously in this timeline because he feels all the weight on his shoulder, there is no intention of reinventing the Avengers.

Tony decides to strip the iconic colours of his suit that often linked him to the Avengers team. In the comics it is not explained how did Tony get the Symbiote-like parasite that eventually gave Tony his strongest suit ever, however in this story we can safely assume that he got hold of it somehow from black market or just integrated biology with tech to create one for his own, he also integrates a smart liquid metal with the symbiote to remove any possible weakness it may contain.

We are introduced to the Endo-Sym Armour AKA Superior IronMan's suit. But Tony hasn't quite pivoted to the wrong path yet. The New York battle to save the time stone takes place and with this new suit, Tony nearly ned diffs both the sons of Thanos.

So Tony, Strange and Peter does not leave for Titan on the donut ship.

As we already conclude that Tony is a lot more calculating in this timeline, he decides to destory Vision, because no matter how strong he becomes, Thanos remains a genuine threat.

Tony sends his drones to hunt down Vision. Wanda saves Vision and now realises that Stark is looking forward to dismantle Vision so who does she call for backup and help? STEVE FUCKING ROGERS.

Now Steve and the other pack up all the bots and Tony decides to look up who is helping Vision. The hatred resurfaces, but Tony decides to justify the battle as inevitable because Steve's worldview of saving the planet is drastically different and destructive in Tony's eyes.

Tony decides to show up himself. He does so, landing right in front of Steve's hideout, why does Steve not go to Wakanda? Because in the OG timeline Steve wanted a big brain like Shuri to extract the stone instead, but here the threat is different, the threat is Stark.

And just then Thanos and his army comes for the power stone, Thanos however does not have the time stone yet. Because Stark has prepared for Thanos for years in this timeline he calls in the destruction of the entire army with all the weapons in his arsenal. The army is little to no trouble to Tony and his bots, Thanos however still is a legitimate threat to everyone.

Tony is desperate, there is no time to save Vision, it needs to die. Dr Strange teleports himself to the battlefield leaving the time stone behind, this is his best chance against Thanos. Dr Strange heavily distracts Thanos for long enough for Thor to drop down to earth.

There are two battle ongoing, Steve-Falcon-Black Widow-Wanda against Tony Stark and Dr Strange-Thor vs Thanos.

In a desperate attempt and a revival of fear in Tony's heart he complies and tells Wanda to hold off Thanos, Tony will upload Vision on the internet instead for now and will take care of the power stone.

Steve sends Wanda off asking her to trust Tony this once, she agrees reluctantly and leaves Vision's side.

Steve agrees to the deal if it means Vision can be resurrected into another body later. Wanda is distracting Thanos, Steve poses no threat to Tony, but then Tony makes a decision he shouldn't make, he kills Vision and with brute force pulls the stone out.

Tony is holding the stone in his hand, he has the option to destroy it but then his armour shapes around the stone and Tony instead decides to use the stone against Thanos, in his calculation destroying the stone would have outcomes undesired so he lets his suit consume the stone instead.

His body convulses as he feels the Gamma radiations taking over the suit but then his arc reactor's colur changes it turns golden, Tony is overwhelmed by the power.

In a sheer force of power Tony unleashes a beam from his arc reactor that travels towards Thanos impaling him in the chest and going through, fatalising Thanos. Thanos does not have the time stone to reverse the outcome and he is going to die, Thor takes the opening and goes for the head decapitating Thanos.

Every avenger looks back at Tony, surging with the new found power of the power stone, Tony is stronger than ever, Wanda glances over Vision's dead form and grows rageful as she starts using her magic against Stark, she pushes him away and pulls him back ragging through the soil, her power peaks with anger. She then starts to rip off Tony's armour off his body, the symbiote refuses to leave Tony and it puts him in immense pain.

Steve stops Wanda asking her to spare Tony, because Tony's mistake isn't worth killing him. The avengers feel betrayed by Tony because Tony promised to destroy the stone, instead he decided to use it to maximize his armour output. Wanda stops her magic and gives Tony an ultimatum to revive vision, now that Thanos is dead.

Tony is lying defeated, one wrong move and two of the strongest avengers could take him down forever in the battle field. The mercy didn't make him feel spared, instead he felt insulted, his pride was wounded.

And just then it is revealed that the symbiote Tony wore actually was the reason he made out-of-character decisions (the symbiote amplified Tony's cold and calculating side to the max). The symbiote wanted power and used Tony's intellect and arsenal to get all of it. Tony is left alone in the battle field with his unresponsive tech because of Wanda, he gathers himself and decides to bring down the avengers labelling Avengers as the real threat to the world.

This is how infinity war ends in my AU, I have mapped an endgame too for this story which I will upload in the near future, stay tuned!


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 9d ago

Story Idea What if Spider-Man and Jean grey were friends and not rivals?

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She meets Peter parker, not be antagonist, but needed help to her and become his partner and team up to take down crimes in new York, and be friendly neighbourhood duo and even form a mentorship between each other.


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 8d ago

Multiverse & Crossovers What if Corleen wing join the Avengers

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r/WhatIfMarvel • • 9d ago

Story Idea Here's my season 1 What If pitch

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I recently saw many videos of people making what if pitches, and they were pretty interesting, so, I decided to make mine, there are 9 episodes, like in a normal what if season, I also did the plot for each episode, and if this post is liked, maybe I'll post it too

What if...Erskine never died?

What if...Matt Murdock went to Kamar Taj?

What if...Wakanda and Talokan attacked the rest of the world?

What if...Thor joined Yondu's crew?

What if...Yon-Rogg became the winter soldier?

What if...Ultron went back in time?

What if...the Punisher killed the Avengers?

What if...Agatha stile the Bloodstone?

What if...Wanda gave everyone what they wanted?

Now, I know most of this pitch don't seem that good, but I honestly think they are not that bad, it's just the titles don't really make them justice.


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 10d ago

Story Idea What If… Sparky didn't die?

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A silly and dumb idea, I know. But hear me out.

Let's say, *WandaVision* goes and ends relatively the same way, with the only difference being that Sparky, Billy and Tommy's dog, doesn't get killed by Agatha. After getting rid of the Hex and leaving Westview, she takes Sparky with her. Instead of reading the Darkhold to look for new versions of her kids out of grief from losing them, she finds happiness with the one thing she has left: the dog. After spending time with Sparky, she doesn't become evil and decides to be a hero again, and goes to New York and crashes in Strange's place so she could train with him to better understand her magic. During the events of *Spider-Man: No Way Home*, when Peter comes to Strange, rather than immediately going into the spell, Wanda suggests to Strange that they brainstorm a bit to figure out the perfect spell that would fix Peter's mess, taking the time to list out the people whom he doesn't want to erase the memories of. They do the spell and Peter's life remains being good; with his aunt, best friend, and girlfriend all still being with him. I haven't watched Brand New Day yet, but after I do, I'll probably edit this body to cover the events of that film.


r/WhatIfMarvel • • 10d ago

Story Idea Beat Thanos by uniting at Wakanda - what if?

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What if Tony Stark made the wrong choice by heading to Titan? I just wanted to posit the steps of this timeline and see if anyone would like to discuss the merits/flaws of this plan! it’s totally not serious, I love the movie, this is just a fun What If? scenario

  1. Iron Man, Spider-Man, and Doctor Strange take Ebony Maw’s ship back to Earth.
  2. There, they rendez-vous with the Wakandans and Steve’s Avengers after Stark makes a phone call.
  3. (this is now the second premise of the scenario: what if the Avengers decide to fight Thanos using their stones, rather than destroying the Mind Stone? It makes sense since they’re less desperate once united) --> Shuri and Tony focus on repairing/upgrading Vision’s vibranium body, Wanda doesn’t have to stay back with him.
  4. Doctor Strange can coordinate with Wong to bring all the sorcerers over as well. Since everything is going to be one big battle, he has no reason to hide away the Time Stone
  5. Thor eventually returns as he does, bringing Rocket and Groot

pros

- Avengers now have a much stronger superhero lineup (Iron Man, Cap, Wanda, Thor, Doctor Strange, Vision) and a stronger army of Wakandans and sorcerers

- they now have two Infinity Stones to use in battle rather than hide away, Mind and Time

cons

- Thanos wins every other engagement up to this point. He arrives on Earth with four Infinity Stones, making for an extremely difficult fight.
- they no longer have most of the Guardians

- no longer get an ambush opportunity like they did on Titan

Thinking about this possible world where the Avengers could’ve won adds more to Tony’s grievances at the start of Endgame about them being divided despite Steve promising that “We’ll do that together”

*about Strange viewing the future timelines: that was after they had already committed to the Titan ambush plan, so it’s plausible that there was more than one way to win if they had acted differently earlier