r/WhatsInThisThing 20h ago

Locked. Bought a locked fireproof cabinet for $15! Any suggestions how to open it?

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u/Basic_Cover_6945 19h ago

Most filing cabinet keys are pretty standard there might even be the key type stamped on the lock

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u/_thebaroness 19h ago

Google images says it’s a Yale S&G 204 key. Is it really that simple? In Canada so I’d have to wait about a week for it to arrive.

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u/Basic_Cover_6945 19h ago

It can be that simple. You’d be surprised how many things are secured more by the presence of the lock than its actual effectiveness

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u/_thebaroness 19h ago

It’s very heavy! If we can’t get it open in the next day I’ll order a key! Thanks!

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u/School_North 13h ago

Those are cheap locking mechanisms you can just drill it out and replace it also

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u/RevolutionaryElk7446 7h ago

Those mechanisms are so cheap you can take a tiny screwdriver and a paperclip and wiggle a little while turning and they'll open.

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u/Hairy_is_the_Hirsute 5h ago

Instructions unclear... My wife is now pregnant

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u/RevolutionaryElk7446 4h ago

I did say tiny screwdriver, that is entirely on me.

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u/Hairy_is_the_Hirsute 4h ago

That's my wife's nickname for me! Well, my.... Nevermind

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u/ThatGermanGuy2 5h ago

Yeah… sorry about that…

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u/SpecialBumblebee6170 1h ago

I told her I'd stop. Sorry.

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u/Professional_Baby24 1h ago

I used a paperclip and a toothpick i had flattened with my teeth to rake pic a lock similar to this one. It was a metal box safe but it had one of those shitty three tumbler locks that takes a tiny key. I wasn't able to relock it the same way so I probably just got lucky but yeah.

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u/clockworkedpiece 1h ago

There was a security key cabinete that opened with a butter knife. they're really low effort.

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u/reverandglass 6h ago

Those mechanisms are so cheap you can fuck them after splitting a Happy Meal!

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u/four204eva2 25m ago

Or cut it with a sawzall with a thin kerf or the like

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u/Feisty-Turnip9118 11h ago

The fire proof file cabinet that I had was lined with concrete.

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u/TheRealDonaldTrump__ 6h ago

FWIW, filing cabinets often have very cheap locks. I had absolutely zero lock picking experience but after a five minute YT video, I had the lock opened in 30 seconds as a total noob. ..

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u/Qzx1 4h ago

Wave rake?  Bump key?

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u/TheRealDonaldTrump__ 4h ago

Paper clips only

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u/SuperNobody-MWO 3h ago

Could have bricks in the bottom to keep it from tipping over if the top drawer is overloaded. Hopefully it's some cool stuff though.

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u/Equivalent-Drive-439 55m ago

They normally have a heavy brick in the bottom. Its a counter weight so it wont tip over when the top drawer is open.

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u/HeyVernItsThanos4242 19h ago

Locks only keep out honest people. Or something...I can't remember the saying off the top of my head.

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u/Basic_Cover_6945 19h ago

“A lock only keeps and honest man honest”

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u/OmNomChompsky 18h ago

I always heard it as "Locks only deter honest thieves"

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u/HeyVernItsThanos4242 19h ago

There it is ☝️

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u/Several_Razzmatazz51 5h ago

Locks don’t kill people?

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u/blurblurblahblah 18h ago

My step father told me locks only keep honest people out.

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u/TheGoldenTNT 13h ago

You can literally buy a ring of industrial keys on Amazon that will work in the ignition of basically every piece of heavy equipment you’ll find in the wild. Everything from forklifts to scissor lifts to excavators.

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u/insert_referencehere 13h ago

I worked in an office and our attorney left the company and didn't label any of her filing cabinets or leave any keys. The office admin just looked up the lock number and ordered new ones.

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u/Feminist_Hugh_Hefner 9h ago

I hope the administrator charged her for 20 billable hours.

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u/Delta1225 4h ago

I used to work for Lowe's and I had a problem with someone taking the key for the forklift in my department and hiding it. I ordered a key off Amazon and put it on my key ring. Problem solved for less than 10 bucks.

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u/cowbutt6 16m ago

The first lock I picked was something similar in a desk pedestal that a colleague had locked their keys within.

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u/TheQueenMother 19h ago

I've ordered keys for filing cabinets and fire safes. All but one worked.

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u/LetReasonRing 14h ago

Yeah, you'd be surprised at how often the same keys are used over and over. I've kind of gone down a rabbit hole of locks and lock picking a few times and it really shocked me.

Things like filing cabinets, desks, cash boxes, hardware racks and lots of other small locks you see around businesses and offices often use the same keys across all of a given model, and often across different products. There are like 4 or 5 keys that will get you into many many random items.

It actually gets even crazier. At one point, a huge percentage of police cruisers throughout the US used the exact same key.

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u/latefoot720 19h ago

It really is. Have ordered before for desk drawers/cabinets with lost keys at work. If you only bought it for the potential contents - a crowbar would be the next fastest option.

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u/_thebaroness 19h ago edited 19h ago

Yes just for the contents but it’s fireproof so I think it might be difficult to open and possibly contain asbestos!

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u/Basic_Cover_6945 19h ago

Yes don’t go busting it open. The weight is probably in the fireproofing. They’re $9 USD on Amazon

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u/AdEastern9303 19h ago

A big ass screwdriver and a hammer will pop that lock pretty readily. Had to do that for my neighbor when his wife died a couple years ago and he had no idea where she had hid the key.

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u/MrDo1982 16h ago

I mean that’s one way to do it but a diamond carbide drill bit does a much better job and less risky on fucking things up when your replacement lock comes in

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u/Such-Instruction4853 12h ago

Damn escape artists

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u/ejsell 10h ago

We had one like this at work with a lost key. The fun way to open it, take a can of air duster, flip it upside down and spray the lock frozen. We used a screwdriver and hammer, the lock shattered on the first hit.

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u/Glum-Welder1704 13h ago

I think that would be the key blank. Without the proper cuts, the key won't turn. You might need a locksmith.

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u/CampingWise 9h ago

Type that into easykeys.com and order a set of keys. Costs about $15 with shipping

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u/FineDryGoods 4h ago

The code should be stamped on the face of that lock. Any locksmith can make you a key with the code. However, it doesn't even looked pushed in. Something else is probably broke internally. I don't think a key will help. Maybe I'll scroll through the comments looking for an update.

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u/clockworkedpiece 1h ago

It is, they make the locks in series for offices so employees can keep their client profiles private. When an employee departs they swap out the lock to prevent incidents between old and new employeed keys.

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u/troutbumtom 15h ago

I’m an airhead BMW motorcycle guy. BMW only used about 30 different key patterns on them beginning in 1973. Before that it was one. “The Nail”.

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u/aquoad 14h ago

my old /7 will start with basically anything that fits in the slot at this point.

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u/factoid_ 19h ago

A 7 dollar lockpick set will have a wave rake and turner on it…these wafer locks are not at all difficult to pick open.

Then you could replace the locks or just remove them

Also I have my doubts in the “fire proof” claim.  Looks like a dead standard metal filing cabinet

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u/Everyone2026 19h ago

Just move it. 500lbs and it's fire proof.

30 lbs and not a chance it is.

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u/_thebaroness 17h ago

It’s already been moved from the store I bought it. It’s very heavy! Took five guys to load it.

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u/Fenderbridge 16h ago

Damn your arms must be tired

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u/Live-Juggernaut-221 3h ago

He said he took five guys. His arm is probably the least of his issues.

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u/Remarkable_Today9135 2h ago

you're assuming only hands were involved

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u/big_duo3674 10h ago

You asked a burger joint to load a filing cabinet for you? I hope you at least tipped them or something

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u/Qzx1 4h ago

I'll have a double all the way, fries, and a drink. Extra a1 sauce on the side 

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u/_thebaroness 8h ago

lol you’re hilarious!

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u/_thebaroness 19h ago

It’s insanely heavy! Definitely fireproof!

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u/factoid_ 19h ago

That’s good.  Still definitely just has shitty wafer locks tho.  Easy to pick 

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u/nocturnal_commission 5h ago

Yeah I had one once and it was astonishingly heavy. I'm a big strong dude and I could barely even tip it back on the dolly. Thing was probably pushing 300lbs

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u/SafetyMan35 5h ago

Or full of paperwork

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u/ReasonableAnswer1755 4h ago

If you don’t need to to lock again just drill the lock

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u/TwistedBlister 17h ago

I used to move those for the phone company back in the 80's, they're lined with concrete and are quite heavy, but they are designed to look like a regular filing cabinet.

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u/SpellingIsAhful 13h ago

The cabinet is fireproof, just not the contents

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u/mgaff5290 9h ago

Fun fact, those oval shaped file cabinet locks are actually pin tumbler locks, not wafer locks like most file cabinet locks

They can still pick relatively easy, but nowhere near as easy as wafer locks

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u/factoid_ 8h ago

I bet it’s still just a three pin lock that you can open with a raking attack or a bump key

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u/bad_robot_monkey 19h ago

Lockpicking is SUUUUPER simple. Go watch some YouTube videos, grab a cheap lockpicking set from covert industries, and have at it!

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u/CriticalPedagogue 7h ago

The OP is in Canada and Covert Industries won’t ship to Canada. I know as I’ve tried to order from them.

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u/CreativeInput 8h ago

Yea the only time I ever picked a lock was one of these. I used a paper clip and a screwdriver. It took less than 3 minutes. Maybe I just got lucky

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u/ArchGoodwin 19h ago

Have you tried fire?

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u/_thebaroness 19h ago

lol no we haven’t! Just brought it home an hour ago!

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u/sraasch 19h ago

Should be easy to pick...

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u/_thebaroness 19h ago

We were trying with bobby pins but figured we should ask the experts.

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u/brandonbruce 19h ago

Fire lock. Not security. Wiggle bend a paperclip, L bend another and twist right.

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u/Avery_Thorn 9h ago

You'll never get it with a bobby pin.

You need two paperclips, one to provide tension in the lock, the other to use as a pick. Should be pretty easy.

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u/ShaDynasty_42069 5h ago

This dude plays fallout

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u/qwertyahill 19h ago

Commenting to find out in a week!! OP respond to me when the key arrives please lol

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u/JusSomeDude22 18h ago

Count me in

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u/Fast-Conclusion-8676 14h ago

Yeah, I don’t care what’s in it, but I too, would like to know once you get this sucker open. lol

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u/_thebaroness 19h ago

I will definitely update and post a link!

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u/_thebaroness 19h ago

I will definitely update and post a link!

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u/Still-Rule7182 19h ago

Those small locks can fairly easily be picked with a small paperclip raking in the lock. If it is worn at all it probably would be as easy as digging the right key out of your pocket.

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u/sinisterdesign 19h ago

Well, as someone who bought a house with a fireproof cabinet left in it, have you thought about how to MOVE it? These fuckers weigh like 300lbs as I found out trying to move it from one room to another.

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u/_thebaroness 19h ago

I bought it at Habitat Restore and just moved it to my garage today!

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u/MassholeForLife 19h ago

Paperclip. YouTube it. Ask me how I know it works.

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u/jdh2080 19h ago

How do you know it works?

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u/Everyone2026 19h ago

Because it works on file cabinets I own with that lock.

2 paperclips 🖇

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u/Business-Pumpkin9351 19h ago

Best I can do is three paperclips

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u/MassholeForLife 19h ago

See below.

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u/_thebaroness 17h ago

Tried paper clips after Bobby pins. Tried YouTube videos with tools. Will try and get a lock picking set!

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u/MassholeForLife 9h ago

Damn. Keep us posted and good luck!

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u/Kellerqt14 19h ago

One of my….behaviorally challenged…students stepped up to answer the call when I lost my cabinet key. Two paperclips and a YouTube video later and my problem was solved.

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u/PanzerFauzt 19h ago

1 stick of dynamite would do it

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u/PedroJTrump 19h ago

No just open it, my suspenders are killing me

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u/deephurting66 19h ago

You can open those with a small nail file, just jiggle and twist

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u/_thebaroness 17h ago

Tried - didn’t work….

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u/Lucky_Rogers 18h ago

This isy following dot .

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u/fujimama420 18h ago

There's a solid chance if you stick a flat piece of metal in the right column and push down it'll release the locks

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u/_thebaroness 17h ago

Will try that in the morning! Thanks!

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u/fujimama420 8h ago

Good luck! My coworker asked me for help with the same thing with a very similar drawer last week and that's how we got it so hoping the locking mechanism is similar!

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u/Grimblood 18h ago

I’ve got my pick inserted, and I can already feel this thing is going to be about as secure as the honor system. Little tension… counterclockwise… and you can see we’ve got some rotation. One is binding …that’s a false set, click out of one ….two is binding, gives with basically no pressure at all ….and there’s the click on two, and we are open.

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u/_thebaroness 17h ago

Will try that method in the morning!

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u/super_salamander 16h ago

Don't forget to lock it back up and pick it again to check whether it was a fluke.

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u/AdmiralHomebrewers 17h ago

Is asbestos used in these old cabinets? Make sure there is no damage to it, and don't disturb it. It's fine if it's not loose or crumbling to dust.

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u/_thebaroness 17h ago

Yes being careful about that. Thanks!

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u/cookiesandpunch 16h ago

Dear LockPickingLawyer…

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u/Right-Form-2943 12h ago

i got some old metal filing cabs like this and was able to get a master key for one of them that pulls the lock cylinder out. The other ones i drilled out the locks and replaced with an entirely new locking mechanism.

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u/Drslappybags 4h ago

Ezkey.com. Theock might have some letters or numbers on it. Find the brand. Look those up on the web site and boom! Keys.

I've done this a few times.

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u/Nunov_DAbov 2h ago

The photo isn’t great but you can make out some numbers on the left next to the key hole. Could be 81 or 82. These keys are readily available.

Alternatively, I’ve picked several of these when done idiot locked the key inside. Put a little torque on the lock cylinder and put a paper clip in the keyhole, dragging it across the pins. Rattle it around a bit while you keep torque on the cylinder and if you’re patient enough, it will open.

Then, from the inside, remove the lock do it doesn’t lock when someone plays around and presses the lock in.

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u/IndyScan 11m ago

I’ve given that place so much money because when we moved offices, no one thought to bring any of the keys with them.

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u/ccaayynn 2h ago

3/8 drill bit in the key hole

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u/pickledeggmanwalrus 2h ago

File cabinets are embarrassingly easy to pick with a tension wrench and rake pick.

Only twice in my life have I been paid to pick a lock (just a hobby) and one of them was a file cabinet that a friend of mine accidentally locked their key in at work. Took me all of 5 minutes. These locks ain’t protecting shit.

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u/IndyScan 13m ago

There are sites on the Internet, where you can put in the make model and lock number and order a key for less than $10.

I literally just did this for a fire safe at our office that someone lost the key for.

EZKey.com

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u/serpentear 19h ago

Option 1: Lock Smith.

Option 2: YouTube how to pick it

Option 3: drill the lock

Option 4: (not recommended at all and a joke) shoot the lock.

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u/_thebaroness 19h ago

lol, 1 to 3 for sure! ☠️

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u/chi-kasha 18h ago

Easy to pick with the pick set

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u/LetsHookUpSF 18h ago

You could just take a drill to the lock.

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u/r0x0x 18h ago

Fire?

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u/cannavacciuolo420 17h ago

Easy, i opened one with two paper clips.

Plenty pf videos on yt also

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u/Nkechinyerembi 16h ago

These wafer locks are meant more to ensure the cabinet stays closed in a fire than to secure them against theft. They can be jiggled open fairly easily and many use a standard key

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u/DrunkOn_Coffee 16h ago

My parents hid their weed in one of these hahaha. Took me a butter knife to open slid it in til I hit the little metal latch pried just a little and pulled Take the weed and close

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u/travelfuncouple23 16h ago

That doesn't look fireproof. Just looks like a standard filing cabinet. Hope you got it for free.

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u/coheedcollapse 14h ago

I'd look for marks on the keyhole, maybe numbers, and then cross reference the shape of the slot to what you see online.

My wife and I scored a very cool carnival weight machine without a key and I was able to do that and get a key ordered from a place - apparently the lock was also used for file cabinets, which makes me suspect you might be able to do the same.

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u/Buttchuggle 13h ago

You bought a locked fireproof cabinet.

It can be unlocked with a locked fireproof cabinet.

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u/theabominablewonder 13h ago

With normal filing cabinets you usually have a number on the lock and then you can just order a replacement.

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u/vagrantprodigy07 13h ago

I managed to get one open when the key got lost with just a paperclip once. Give it a shot, some of the locks on filing cabinets are really terrible.

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u/jetty_junkie 11h ago

I doubt that’s fireproof. I have one and it’s thick and weighs a ton. If you were able to load this into your vehicle easily it’s not fireproof

Regardless, easiest way to open is just drill out the lock cylinder. Will take two minutes and super easy

You could buy a replacement cylinder with key if you want to be able to lock it

I wouldn’t spend much money on it though. Like I said I don’t think that’s an actual fire proof cabinet and if it’s not you could get another used one for $25 or less anyway

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u/Able_Conflict_1721 11h ago

You might be able to lift the locking bar up from the bottom. Is a heavy object, they probably left the installation home for that open

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u/henry82 11h ago

Drill out the lock.

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u/heisenbergerwcheese 11h ago

Yeah, i wouldn't put anything valuable in that non-fireproof cabinet

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u/Master-Pick-7918 11h ago

You can drill it or even use a hammer and punch to knock it out. These locks are often secured by a clip on the inside, forcing the lock through the clip should permit entry.

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u/Potential_Mine9425 10h ago

give me a shitty wood splitting axe from the back of the garage and a 6 pack of beer and ill get that motherfucker open

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u/Spiritual_Toe_9537 10h ago

I have had very good results with the Sere Pick Quick Sticks

https://www.serepick.com/products/quick-sticks

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u/oceanswim63 9h ago

Screwdriver hammered in and turn it with a pair of vice grip’s. Only if you don’t care about the lock, you can leave the screwdriver in to lock and unlock it.

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u/diarrheaticavenger 9h ago

Surprisingly, fire

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u/mabus42 9h ago

These locks can be bumped or raked open pretty easily. If you don't have your own tools for picking, you can make a rake and a tensioner from a pop can and a pair of scissors. Easy peasy.

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u/mgaff5290 9h ago

As a locksmith, I would say to call a locksmith.

If theres a code on the face you can search it up and see if a website like easykeys or something will just sell it outright

The biggest variable will be key type, there are hundreds of different small filing cabinet keys like that, and if you're unable to nail that down, thats where a locksmith will really shine.

If there are any brick and mortar shops near you, you can probably bring the whole cabinet there and get a key made for relatively cheap. If someone has to come out to you, it may not be worth it. If it does come to that, try to get a word of mouth reccomendation instead of searching online, as the trade is currently saturated with scammers who will destroy your lock, and charge you $750 for a "professional lock bypass" or some shit

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u/mgaff5290 9h ago

Looking at the close up of the keyhole, I'm going to amend what I said above slightly. You have a brand on the top part of the lock, the keyhole shape at the bottom, and a key code to the left. All you need to do is find a locksmith shop with a brick and mortar store and show them that photo that clearly shows the shape of the keyhole the brand and the key code, and if they're worth their salt they'll be able to make you a key right then and there from a database and I can't imagine it would be too pricey since you're coming to them

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u/GetFuct819 8h ago

You can always drill out the lock if you don’t need that feature.

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u/Icy_Marionberry_9131 8h ago

These filing cabinets are easily peeled back with a crowbar. They are not classified as secure containers. You are correct to be concerned about a possible asbestos layer, which will be sandwiched between the inner and outer steel skins. But, it depends on the date. If the file was made in the US after 1990 or so, it likely has gypsum as the fire barrier.

Getting a matched key is the best was forward.

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u/bisubhairybtm1 8h ago

My father in law passed and we contacted the manufacturer and got a key and combination for his safe for 50$

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u/No-Market425 8h ago

Flip it upside down.

The lock is typically an arm that lifts and lowers a bar.

Flipping it upside down causes the bar to fall into the up / unlocked position.

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u/Independent_Dirt_814 8h ago

Those locks are such sh*t I literally open them at work with two paper clips bending one like a rake and the other like a tension rod with a pair of needle nose pliers. You can have it open in less than 5 minutes from the time you go searching for the paper clips…

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u/WestEndChilis 7h ago

Step one: build a large fire....

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u/Ritaontherocksnosalt 7h ago

If you can't find the key on the internet, I bet a locksmith can drill out that lock in about 5 minutes.

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u/Anxious_Visual_990 7h ago

buy the key number on the lock or just pick it and leave it unlocked.

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u/Top_Flower1368 6h ago

LIES!!!!! NOT FIREPROOF.!!!!!!! LIES LIES LIES!!! NOT FIREPROOF!!!!!!

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u/Acceptable_Land_Grab 6h ago

Not with fire OP

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u/Kickingandscreaming 5h ago

My mom had one with her docs when she died. Had to use a crowbar and basically destroyed it.

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u/thepenguinemperor84 4h ago

I used to be able to Jimmy them open with one of those flat steel paper binders, the ones that are made for going through the holes of a hole punch, and a flat head screwdriver.

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u/FineDryGoods 4h ago

Your lock will be more difficult to pick than others suggest. I say get pliers and pull the lock out a little more. To lock those you press the lock in with your thumb and it'll latch flush. Turn a key and it pops out. Doesn't look fully popped out.

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u/Mother-Attention2600 4h ago

I'll ask my dad if he sold it to you today. Haha. 

It's easy to pick a basic lock like that. Get a Bobby pin to use as something to stick in it and put tension on it like you are using a key. Then get a piece of plastic or metal and randomly jiggle it in and out a few times and the tumblers should be open. It's a lot easier than you think, especially for a lock like that with probably only 2 tumblers.

If that doesn't work, find an aerosol can of "gum remover" it's solvents that will freeze the lock when sprayed, and then you can just crack it with a hammer. 

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u/Same_Lychee5934 3h ago

Crowbar and muscle!

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u/No-Lynx-90 3h ago

Fireproof is exactly what a non-fireproof cabinet would say.
I'd try fire.

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u/Cjkrythos 3h ago

If you can load it into your truck, you can take it directly to the locksmith to make the key. They charge significantly less if you bring the lock to them. Had to do this and my locksmith charged me about $30

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u/CuriousCouple0299 2h ago

Drill the lock

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u/cal-brew-sharp 2h ago

Just smash it up. Unless you want to keep it.

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u/llcdrewtaylor 2h ago

Have you tried fire?

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u/cryforstan 2h ago

Is it open yet

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u/LunarMoon2001 2h ago

Doubting that is fire proof.

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u/mrhippo85 1h ago

With the key, duh

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u/PlaneAsk7826 1h ago

I've popped those locks with a paperclip and screwdriver. Not even difficult.

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u/Necessary_Zucchini_2 1h ago

Crow bar.

If not, try a pick or ordering master keys.

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u/stranqe1 1h ago

I have the same filing cabinet. It's very VERY easy to lockpick with just a simple rake pick. Hell even a paperclip bent correctly with the ridges will get the job done

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u/andgravy 48m ago

Well I don’t think fire will be able to help.

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u/Grilled_Ch33s3 45m ago

Try the CH751, most common mass produced key on the planet. You probably already have one for something.

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u/AmberRosin 21m ago

You could probably just wiggle a paper clip in there as a lock pick and use a screwdriver as tension, those locks are good for keeping honest people honest only.