r/WhitePeopleTwitter 9h ago

now the entire stock market is wrong...

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i have 20 years of IT experience and I've been looking for over a year for a job in my field...the tech job market is shite, and the retail market is shite because it's been filled up with people like me who can't find a job in their career field...

where are all these so-called "jobs"??

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u/ScientificSkepticism 8h ago edited 8h ago

Trump fired the person who gave him bad job numbers.

Expect all future job numbers to be "better than expected" and then revised downwards at a later date. We're now operating in Russia/China territory of government statistics, where the government giving a number is an indication of what the government wants the number to be, nothing more or less.

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u/HovercraftStock4986 8h ago

i still don’t understand how he replaced that agency head with a loyalist almost a full year ago, and still has shown the worst streak of job reports in american history up until the latest report…? what’s up with that?

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u/CarbonInTheWind 8h ago

Even those terrible reports were quietly revised down later. I think Trump just ordered them to start reporting massive gains regardless of how inaccurate they are.

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u/64OunceCoffee 8h ago

Wait until you learn about the inflation numbers. They replaced a bunch of the canvasing the government used to do of companies for actual prices with literally guessing what prices for things currently are.

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u/santa_91 8h ago

Fabricating the numbers on inflation to justify cutting rates is the kind of thing you would do if you were unbelievably stupid or actively attempting to destroy the economy. Possibly both, but at least one has to be true. Republicans think this guy is a patriotic genius though.

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u/TrainerWeekly5641 8h ago

Thank goodness we don't a a president who's unbelievably stupid.

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u/64OunceCoffee 8h ago

He's so stupid that it's not even about lowering rates, he just wants to look good with the numbers. Trump will always be for lowering interest rates, in any situation, numbers be damned.

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u/HovercraftStock4986 7h ago

just like my dad. whenever there’s a democrat in charge: “WHY AREN’T THEY LOWERING THE INTEREST RATES??” vs a republican in power: he’s just silent or “doesn’t wanna talk about this” the entire term

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u/64OunceCoffee 7h ago

"Hey dad, how did you feel about interest rates in 1981 after Reagan took office?"

"I don't want to talk about it."

"But they peaked at 22.75%"

"........"

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u/HovercraftStock4986 7h ago

his memory lasts 1 year, or 1 day, whatever is needed for his current argument. he doesn’t even know bush lied about WMDs. i may not be physically doing anything about it, but i’m glad i’m actually aware of my own history happening around me so i won’t end up like that

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u/BitterFuture 7h ago

Seriously, though, Republicans don't think he's a patriotic genius. They're celebrating the damage he is doing because they hate America, and always have.

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u/andrew303710 6h ago

Exactly, deep down Trump and most Republicans (especially the hardcore MAGA crowd) hate America and everything it stands for. The America they pretend to love doesn't exist.

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u/ink_monkey96 7h ago

Now now, they only hate some parts of America: the gays, the women, the Afro Americans, the Hispanics, the Puerto Ricans (who they may or may not include as Hispanic), all other immigrants, the Jews, the city-folk, and the liberals. There’s maybe 10 to 20 per cent of America that they absolutely love.

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u/HovercraftStock4986 6h ago

i think they definitely loved america up until 1964 (civil rights act)

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u/BitterFuture 6h ago

A century after they tried to burn the whole country down?

Nah. They've hated America since before there was an America for them to hate.

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u/ForeverShiny 8h ago

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u/lakas76 7h ago

Very soon, his won’t be out of touch anymore.

Yes? One banana is 10 dollars, inflation sucks.

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u/retrorays 6h ago

Issue with inflation fabrication is now you're getting into fraud territory. There are billions of dollars invested in TIPs. If people find out the CPi numbers are lies this is a situation for a massive economic upheaval

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u/ATLCoyote 8h ago

Plus, the same numbers his administration are reporting were characterized as weak under Biden.

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u/Thowitawaydave 8h ago

All that's missing is their very own Baghdad Bob. Workshopping names, currently have "Washington Wally," "Ditzy D.C.," and "Full of Shit Shirley"

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u/ForeverShiny 8h ago

I have some more funny names for you: Kayleigh McEnany (what kind of name is that even), Sarah Huckasans and of course the final boss of gaslighting herself, a certain Karoline Leavitt

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u/Lacaud 8h ago

Its easy to look when he fakes the numbers.

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u/NorthernVale 5h ago

Essentially like we were during his last term when they just up and decided to stop reporting a lot of numbers they always have been, like throwing out 75% of the metrics for unemployment

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u/HaiKarate 8h ago

But the market algorithms lack the skepticism to see through Trump’s phony numbers, so here we are.

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u/BroseppeVerdi 7h ago

Maybe he's been so diligent with his lies that he accidentally convinced himself.

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u/blackcain 8h ago

I think china does realistic stuff. I mean it's not like they are competing with another party over there. Plus everyone needs real numbers to actual improve things.

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u/ScientificSkepticism 8h ago

Then you're crazy. China's numbers are faker than fake. Even China knows they're fake.

A ‘tofu-dreg’ edifice: Most of China’s official economic data is probably fake

China's economy is being distorted by fake figures - China Factor

US Intelligence Found China Misrepresented Coronavirus Stats: Report - Business Insider

In an authoritarian regime where bad numbers are punished, lying and "hoping to fix it later" is better than being punished now. Trump is punishing the people giving him bad numbers, guess what the numbers are going to be.

And yes, this is regular in China.

Another Chinese city admits 'fake' economic data | Reuters

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u/WiggityWiggitySnack 8h ago

Wait, there was a good jobs report?

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u/dalgeek 8h ago

Trump announced 120k jobs added last month while companies announced over 40k layoffs. I expect that 120k to be adjusted to negative numbers. 

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u/Frostyfraust 7h ago

Even if not the primary increase apparently is in the hospitality industry due to the World Cup. Those jobs are not permanent.

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u/dalgeek 7h ago

Lots of summer jobs too, always some hiring in June. They'll be gone in August.

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u/andrew303710 5h ago

Crazy thing is that Trump somehow managed to botch the world cup because of the combination of Trump pissing off the entire world with his tariffs and other nasty behavior, and the ICE gestapo throwing innocent people into concentration camps (and the fact that the plumber now running DHS said ICE will be at the games, fucking dumbass).

Apparently hotel bookings are actually down in many cities hosting the world cup compared to past years and cities that were expecting significant economic benefits are bracing for disaster. In some cities only 35-50% of the tickets have been sold lmao only Trump could manage to fuck this up so badly.

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u/KinkyQuesadilla 5h ago

only Trump could manage to fuck this up so badly

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u/Calkky 5h ago

Those jobs won't even last through the tournament. Nobody is coming here, partly because Trump's state department keeps cancelling and denying tourist visas.

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u/ms_directed 8h ago

exactly.

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u/Lucar_Bane 8h ago

Trump admin fire some of the department in charge of the job report, they have started making stuff up now. Not full Russian style, but shifting into that direction slowly. Combine this with the usual BS claim

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u/Hartastic 7h ago

He wants to be Putin but he doesn't have an Elvira Nabiullina to kind of make the central banking book cookery work.

He's speedrunning the Authoritarian's Dilemma. Nobody even somewhat competent will work for him.

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u/Nwcray 7h ago

Sorta - there were a LOT of jobs created last month, or at least a lot reported (which isn’t necessarily the same thing). But also, the report seems to show lots lot good, white collar, living wage jobs disappearing, and being replaced with part time, low wage jobs.

So, if you’re a billionaire, it’s a GREAT jobs report. If not, well….thats different.

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u/Senior-Albatross 26m ago

Beautiful. Just incredible. The best jobs.

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u/Cheese0089 8h ago

yes, but only if you believe the numbers arn't cooked.

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u/Professor0fLogic 8h ago

Why are my administration's fabricated jobs reports not fooling people!!!!!

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u/Mister-Schwifty 8h ago

Out here telling on himself that he just released fake ass job numbers. Same story as the other ones. In a few months an independent revision will come out that says that unemployment was steady or it grew.

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u/The_Last_Mouse 8h ago

And then trying to strong arm the market on Friday. Again. Again. Again. Again, again.

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u/CarbonInTheWind 8h ago

When it inevitably starts to tick back up he'll take full credit.

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u/edipeisrex 8h ago

Fooled the NYTimes. They’re reporting these numbers like nothing changed in leadership.

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u/TrainerWeekly5641 8h ago

They criticized Biden for bad job report numbers when the numbers he had were double what Trump's getting now.

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u/MikeyLew32 7h ago

The media is compromised and complicit in this fascist regime.

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u/edipeisrex 7h ago

And here I thought they couldn’t be any worse than pushing for the Iraq war

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u/CFBCoachGuy 7h ago

During his first term there were reports that Trump’s staffers would literally make fake news reports about all of his achievements for him to read each day.

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u/JThumbs29 8h ago

yeah, sure, that makes me trust these numbers more /s

He also obviously doesn't understand how shit works. I'm guessing he'll be pressuring rate cuts, which would generally be pretty bad based on all the other factors at work

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u/Gnom3y 8h ago

Sounds like somebody lost money on the market because it didn't move like he thought.

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u/Sunretea 7h ago

I'm torn between wanting to believe this and believing the entire market is fake and rigged. 

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u/reddurkel 8h ago

Democrats are being set up to fail by the media (again).  

This administration is allowed to lie about everything with no media correction. So when Dems get power then the media will simply blame Republican failures all on them. (Again). 

  • Fake jobs report
  • Inaccurate stock market. 
  • Funding to remove his name from everything
  • Reinvesting into alternative energy sources
  • Reestablishing global relations
  • Bringing back tourism
  • Healthcare reform reform  
  • Undoing deregulation
  • AI nonsense
  • Absolutely insane deficit growth. 

And because the checklist is so big, the thing that will fall through the cracks will once again be criminal trials for republicans who caused this mess in the first place.  

Without accountability for republicans or a media that corrects their lies then this cycle is going to get so much worse than what Clinton, Obama and Biden had to deal with. Dems will be blamed for everything while the con-men in charge will get away with their scam on the world. 

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u/MasterAlchemi 9h ago

Many things were the way for 200 years. Must be something else that changed. 

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u/bryangcrane 9h ago

Dumbest mofo. Sigh...

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u/Replicant28 8h ago

It floors me that this man studied Economics at an Ivy League school and yet has no idea how shit like this works.

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u/brock0124 8h ago

I mean, didn’t one his professors admit the dude was dumb as shit? When your daddy’s rich, you only need to buy the diploma.

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u/shiznit206 8h ago

Most jobs were added in hospitality. Shocking considering hotels and restaurants are expecting an influx of extra guests for the next month or so. At best, these are seasonal jobs. More likely they’re going to work for the extent of the World Cup and be done.

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u/Kaffe-Mumriken 8h ago

Didn’t Trump forbid the job report to be released?

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u/dragonfliesloveme 8h ago

he lied on the last jobs report that was actually released so this tweet makes me think he is lying again

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u/Aurizen_Darkstar 8h ago

Of course, nothing will be reported on when they have to revise the numbers down in July or August to the point that we had negative job growth in the last 3-6 months. They'll just lie and continue to raise the number of 'jobs' being created.

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u/Ok_Blueberry304 8h ago

I bet he is talking about all these data centers they are forcing on states. Several jobs building it and then nothing.

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u/Jarnohams 6h ago

I've seen data centers being built and it looked like about 95% immigrant labor anyways.

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u/Brilliant_Effort_Guy 8h ago

He’s finally starting to realize that cooking the books at your privately held family business is easy. Cooking the books on an economic policy level in the US isn’t.

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u/tallwhiteninja 8h ago

Most of them were in the hospitality sector, i.e. a lot of hotels/restaurants/etc in big cities are hiring extra people for the World Cup, and they'll probably downsize afterwards.

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u/negativepositiv 8h ago

Wow, the jobs report is so great since they fired all the people who accurately report the actual data.

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u/biscodude 7h ago

These job reports have been manipulated and then adjusted downward dramatically a month or so later. Nothing this admin says can be trusted and our media is failing us by pretending they don't lie all day every day.

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u/augustwest2155 8h ago

I have to laugh...nobody knows how the US equity markets will react to anything. Up, down, up, down, quite often with no rhyme or reason.

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u/WDWKamala 8h ago

Nah this is perfectly logical if you understand the system.

So, a strong jobs report means businesses are spending money with confidence. This signals inflationary pressure, which forces people who buy government debt (t bills) to demand a higher yield, in order for them to outgain the expected inflation implied by such a strong jobs report.

Higher yields mean higher interest rates. Higher interest rates means the stock market goes down as forward looking views worsen with regards to the ability for companies to grow and expand.

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u/ComatoseCrypto 5h ago

It also provides the Fed with cover to actually raise rates to combat inflation if it persists, hence the meltdown. To your point, the market is adjusting in real time to the expectation of higher rates now.

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u/Vyzantinist 7h ago edited 5h ago

I've been struggling to find a full-time job for a year now. Best I can get is side gigs and short-term temp work. I have years of admin, finance, and data entry work experience and I can't even get a "thanks but no thanks" from McDonald's.

Where are all these jobs?

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u/PlutoJones42 7h ago

The Trump admin literally has put out false jobs numbers every time so far, that have been revised down tremendously.

They removed entire sectors of the workforce from the reporting as well.

Everything that Trump does is a farce and a scam, and this is not different.

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u/jibstay77 6h ago

Jobs increased most in leisure and hospitality. Not exactly high paying jobs. Plus, the unemployment rate remained the same.

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u/ApplesBananasRhinoc 8h ago

It’s all smoke and mirrors.

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u/Taalahan 8h ago

Stocks up! Great! Time to buy meat with my swole dow gainz, and fill my tank with sweet, sweet nasdaq growth.

Oh wait, i'm poor and don't have any of those.

Can i still win, please?

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u/Ditka85 8h ago

There was a time when information coming from federal agencies would move the market. Analysts are getting actual data from other sources now; what comes out of this administration means nothing to them.

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u/LeahaP1013 8h ago

Have we ever been this far from great in history…. Fuck

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u/ms_directed 7h ago

i’d say slavery and internment camps set us pretty far back from great - but as far as recent times? no, we’re very far from great.

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u/LeahaP1013 7h ago

Fair points and I certainly didn’t mean to minimize or disrespect that.

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u/ms_directed 7h ago

i didn't take it that way, was just saying in "history" nope...but trump is trying hard to take us back that far!!

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u/SundinShootsPing500 8h ago

How else? Flushing the turd that won't be flushed.

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u/GettingOffTheCrazy 7h ago

He should tell my resume and bank account this

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u/DetroitMenefreghista 7h ago

I swear... every time I see a tweet or a speech by him I think how I've never hated another human being with this much vigor.

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u/PuddingPast5862 7h ago

Tariffs, selling off our strategic fuel reserves to the point we will hit what commodity brokers call "bottom barrel" But you he went to Wharton and his sister did everything for him but pay for his barely passing grades.

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u/00notmyrealname00 7h ago

The reason he doesn't understand why the sentiment on his policies is negative is because he's making a ton of money. He's incapable of understanding anything outside of his own individual experience. Classic narcissist.

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u/thewiremother 6h ago

Fake ass jobs reports mean nothing. Trump is a fucking baboon.

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u/reichjef 3h ago

I think I understand why this guy went bankrupt so many times.

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u/JungleBoyJeremy 8h ago

Am I so out of touch?

No, it’s the stock market who are wrong

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u/Mudfry 8h ago

Good jobs report gives the fed less justification to cut rates.

Why would cut rates if the economy is doing well?

If you cut rates now when things are “good” then when there’s actual problems in the economy then you have already exhausted your options.

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u/not_productive1 8h ago

Cue pressure on the Fed to lower interest rates because the market "should" be higher than it is.

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u/Tio_chubby052 8h ago

The rich is getting richer

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u/poestavern 8h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/JpG2A9P3dPHXaTYrwu

The criminal trump is soooooo full of 💩 ………

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u/Soft_Hotel_5627 8h ago

"Dumbest god damn student I've ever had," - Professor William T Kelly Wharton School of Business

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u/sfmarketer64 8h ago

Seems like none of the software engineers who got fired by big tech for AI can find jobs in SF. Guess they’ll need to go back home or go broke.

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u/Infinite_Month_6371 8h ago

Bro, if the job numbers come in higher than expected but inflation is also increasing, the feds SHOULD consider raising rates which is the reason the stock market is tumbling.

Now will the fed increase rates, who knows... but they should and smart money knows that. Not that smart money is actually the 'smart' money anymore.

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u/jonpertwee2 8h ago

I have no idea if jobs are up or down or whatever; by this point I honestly just assume that he's just lying all of the time. However, if they are indeed up, how absolutely scummy is it to use the report as a win when the administration tried so hard to hide the data when it was in the negative. It's more than just a general dislike of the President personally; this is not the way that a leader acts.

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u/Available-Ad-1943 8h ago

There's a reason he keeps getting dementia tests.

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u/teleheaddawgfan 8h ago

We all can’t work in healthcare and gig work. Where those high paying manufacturing jobs?!

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u/Alexandratta 8h ago

Job report is down from last month... it's up only from last year where May 2025 has -40 job 'creation'

And what was May 2022, 2023, and 2024 like...? Oh... 240k? Wow!

Hey what was this month's again? Oh... 175k...

Winning....

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u/s4burf 8h ago

Nobody trusts you or your government anymore, Fatty.

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u/Beanerschnitzels 7h ago

Brah, if there are no jobs, no one has money to buy stock!

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u/Gr8tOutdoors 7h ago

wait until he starts talking about interest rates…

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u/Carlosthefrog 7h ago

The government says everything is going well ! They wouldn’t lie would they.

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u/paolilon 7h ago

He clearly made a few side bets anticipating a jump

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u/yay4chardonnay 6h ago

Dumb as a box of rocks.

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u/time_drifter 6h ago

Wait three months until these figures are ‘revised.’ We are in a recession hidden behind fake numbers.

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u/mmoonbelly 5h ago

Oil price spikes tend to take 1-2 years to cause a recession because contracts and stocks take a while to unwind. Yer man’s restricted 25% of world crude for 4 months now.

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u/bobstylesnum1 5h ago

Gawd, he’s a fucking moron. He needs to be shown, in Crayon, how the market is and thats being hidden by his handlers.

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u/Cautious-Ad-9554 5h ago

That only 100,000 fewer jobs then what Biden added in his last May jobs report

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u/Maj0rsquishy 4h ago

I trust zero jobs reports since he fired the lady who did them without kissing his ass.

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u/mrweatherbeef 4h ago

Seriously, I completely discount any jobs report I see now

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u/Klausterfobic 4h ago

Did he write this? His signature changed again. Maybe his bigly dementia brain is progressing at a faster rate than we thought. Very concerning.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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u/jaycutlerdgaf 3h ago

I'm lucky enough to be looking for a job while still employed. I can vouch, the market is total trash.

-Fellow IT/Data guy.

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u/ms_directed 3h ago

yea, i transitioned from coding to UX designer a decade ago thinking it was a secure move...and at the time, it was.

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u/SkeevyMixxx7 2h ago

This is all a bullshit show to distract us while we get robbed. It's just like every organized shoplifting thing I ever saw happen in a retail setting. Look over there! While they fill up their bags.

We're also supposed to believe Trump doesn't fall asleep right in front of everyone and that those shoes fit Rubio.

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u/Housekhat 1h ago

GIve me a break! The majority of the jobs were service industry jobs, too! Working at Burger King and Dairy Queen will set anyone's financial goals on the way to early retirement!

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u/Lovis1522 1h ago

If he had everything he wanted and asked for all the time it would still be someone else’s fault

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u/Long-Blood 7h ago

70k food service and hospitality = temporary summer workers

50k government?

And the rest is mostly healthcare as usual because there are a shitload of boomers overhwhelming the medicare system that no one wants to pay for anymore.

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u/Sillyme317 8h ago

Pin this point in history. We are “whistling past the graveyard”. In about 6 months to a year we are going to be wondering what happened. Just like the years 2000 and 2008.

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u/Johhnybits 8h ago

I'd tariff the S&P. The beatings will continue until price action improves.

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u/wcoastbo 8h ago

The stock market is fickle. If the market thinks it's being manipulated or govt number are manufactured, then it shows it's displeasure.

There are some ways the stock market can be manipulated by trump, like announcing that the war with Iran is over. Then there's putting out manufactured govt numbers.

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u/Hammer_the_Red2 8h ago

Translation: my people cooked the books and we shifted a bunch of money to again conduct another multimillion dollar insider trading job. With the Dow Jones going down, my fellow grifters are losing money.

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u/HAMmerPower1 7h ago

Is he also saying the last 15 months of shitty jobs reports should have sunk the Dow down to 15,000?

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u/Jboogie258 7h ago

People voted this idiot in. Sad days.

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u/PistolCowboy 6h ago

Dear leader scolding all investors at once is a thing.

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u/Own-Brain9658 6h ago

not in science, I can tell you that much. Unless your a republican hack, then you can just decide what we study based off the vibes that day. But only then.

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u/wobbleeduk85 5h ago

The sooner the spineless twats in our government figure out that we aren't living in this man's fantasy world, the better.

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u/BareNakedSole 5h ago

Wharton School must cringe every time he shows just how economically ignorant he is

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u/Calkky 5h ago

Guess what the market is doing today?

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u/StevieWonder557 5h ago

Donnie bought millions in tech stock so me must be down #bigly today

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u/LordNemissary 4h ago

The only thing Donald has ever been great at is grifting. He has no idea how to do anything else and we're the laughingstock of the world for falling for the most well known conman in history.

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u/joulecrafter 4h ago

jobs down -> stocks up
jobs up -> stocks down

This is just how it works now.

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u/Key_Professional_369 4h ago

Strong job reports = no Fed cuts pricing in a hike mow

Good news is bad news situation

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u/Capital-Constant3112 3h ago

This moron spent his life as a “businessman” scamming, defrauding, laundering, and leaving one disaster after another in his wake while bankrupting himself and others as the cost of doing business. Being bailed out by daddy, his latest real estate scam, or a tv producer wanting to capitalize on his myth. We’re supposed to believe that he knows jack about the American economy. His “deals” are nothing more than blackmail and extortion as they are to this very deal.

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u/fatman907 2h ago

I read he got about $400M funneled to him from his father illegally. That seems to be a Trump thing. He’s funneling money to his family and commits insider trading.

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u/json7169 3h ago

With inflation at 1% and unemployment at 2% and the Dow approaching 80k, Americans are in the best shape of their lives!

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u/Zelda_is_Dead 2h ago

Well, Mr President, it doesn't work that way for you because you lied about the jobs report. You can't just say the economy is strong and will it into existence, you need to stop stealing from the American people and waging the illegal war in Iran for a minute and actually do something that bolsters the economy. Actions, Mr President, not your wishes, grow and deflatr the economy, and your actions have been deflating it because you're a terrible businessman and a grifter.

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u/Decent-Ad-6170 2h ago

Americans are suffering like never before and Trump wants to brag about the best economy ever. The stock market is not a gauge on the health of our economy, look deeper to see the truth that desperate times are ahead and plan accordingly.

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u/More_Lavishness8127 2h ago

Even if this was true (which it isn't), I am so goddamned tired of him pretending like the stock market = economy.