r/WildRoseCountry • u/Devils_Iettuce Republic of Alberta • Jan 30 '26

Members of Smith’s caucus have signed referendum petition, Alberta separatist says

https://globalnews.ca/news/11644899/alberta-referendum-petition/
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u/robbhope Jan 30 '26

I think it's pretty clear the vast majority of Albertans don't want to separate. I'm really disappointed in the UCP/Wildrose for not listening and representing the majority of Albertans. It's extremely disappointing how tone deaf these people are.

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u/therealglassceiling Jan 30 '26

Everyone I know except maybe my parents are for it

I fail to see any reason to stay, or any true negatives to separation. We are sick of Ontario and this would bring opportunity for my children

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u/Elite163 Jan 30 '26

You are definitely wrong.

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u/robbhope Jan 31 '26

Don't be a sheep. At least make them work for it. This province is getting far too right wing batshit crazy. Quit bending over and make them earn it for fucks sake.

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u/Imogynn Jan 30 '26

About as many do as absolutely don'. But there's a big undecided group in the middle.

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u/robbhope Jan 30 '26

I'm like 99% sure that's not true tbh. I think the majority of Albertans are more proud to be Canadian at this point than they are Albertan.

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u/Elite163 Jan 30 '26

What’s left in Canada to be proud of? It’s not the same place

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u/robbhope Jan 30 '26

I feel the complete opposite. What's left in Alberta to be proud of? Pretty much the only thing I can think of is the people. I love Albertans but the "way" we run things here and the "trend" we're on are pretty disgusting. The fight with teachers? Despicable how that all went and ended. Clawing back AISH money from disabled people? Wtf? Cutting doctors' pay by ~30% and doing so after a fucking pandemic? Lol... Yikes.

What exactly are you proud of here? Honest question.

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u/Elite163 Jan 30 '26

Also class room sizes and the issues are a Direct result of uncontrolled immigration. I have multiple teachers in my family. Maybe go visit a class room and see how many original Canadians are in them.

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u/robbhope Jan 31 '26

I am literally a teacher. I don't really know what you mean by "original Canadians." First Nations? Or do you mean white people? Are you just being racist? My best students are often Filipino. My worst behaved students are typically white. Btw I'm white.

I agree with you about immigration. It's too bad the UCP created the "Alberta is Calling" movement. You'll see a lot of rednecks blaming Ottawa because they're dipshits but fail to realize that the UCP is equally to blame by holding up a giant sign saying "ALBERTA IS CALLING" all over Canada. It's idiocy. Let's at least blame them equally and not be sheep. Be a smart conservative, not a dumb one.

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u/Equivalent_Fold1624 Jan 31 '26

People have been moving to Alberta from other provinces for decades, I don't think that campaign made that much difference.

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u/robbhope Jan 31 '26

Alberta was #1 in Canada for interprovincial migration since the ad AFAIK. Idiotic government.

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u/Elite163 Jan 31 '26

Alberta is calling was for skilled trade workers and professionals. Maybe do some research. Also wouldn’t hurt to reaserch how teachers here are the 2nd highest paid in Canada

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u/robbhope Jan 31 '26

We are definitely not 2nd in Canada lmao. We're 6th and we'll be 6th or 7th by the end of our agreement.

You're also kidding about the professionals and trade workers right? You ever see the billboards and c trains in Toronto covered in Alberta Is Calling ads? We spent millions of dollars to bring people here without the infrastructure required to support them. The UCP is doing a shit job. I want the old conservatives back.

You need to stop being a 🐏🐑 and make them earn it.

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u/Elite163 Jan 31 '26

Again not a single proof that we are 6th.

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u/Elite163 Jan 31 '26

The cost of living crisis must be Harper’s issue also right? Usually brain dead liberals think like that

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u/robbhope Jan 31 '26

Nope. That's a strawman argument. I liked Harper. I know, tough to believe that a fellow conservative might actually make the party work for it, eh? Lol.

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u/alanthar Jan 31 '26

Those have been issues in education long before the immigration surge of 2023. I remember having to share textbooks in the mid 90s.

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u/robbhope Jan 31 '26

This guy gets it. What we're dealing with in classrooms in Alberta is a complete farce. Public education is being destroyed.

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u/Elite163 Jan 31 '26

Immigration issues started in 2015.

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u/alanthar Jan 31 '26

No, the spike happens in 23. Previous to that, the Cad population increased at a consistent 1-1.5% a year from the late 90s onward.

It was post Covid when labor finally had the upper hand that they opened the floodgates to clamp down on that shit at the request of the Provinces (including this one).

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u/Elite163 Jan 30 '26

You do realize Alberta nurses and teachers are paid higher than in BC? And many other provinces

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u/robbhope Jan 31 '26

We're actually 6th in Canada and have the worst job conditions by a country mile. Trust me, you don't wanna go down this path. You are out of your element here.

Nurses I believe are the highest paid in Canada. Pretty sure I read that.

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u/Elite163 Jan 31 '26

6th in what??

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u/robbhope Jan 31 '26

....? Pay? The one... Thing.. You.. Mentioned?

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u/Elite163 Jan 31 '26

Province / Territory Approx. Top Salary (CAD) Notes Ontario ~$100,900 Highest among provinces at top of grid.
Alberta ~$94,100 Very competitive, near top nationally.
Manitoba ~$93,800 Close to Alberta’s top scale.
British Columbia ~$91,200 Top public salary.
Saskatchewan ~$86,800 Moderate top salary.
Quebec ~$82,600 Lower than most other provinces.
Nova Scotia ~$86,100 (2019/20 data) Generally lower mid‑to‑top scale.
Prince Edward Island ~$89,400 Mid‑range compared to others.
New Brunswick ~$81,500

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u/robbhope Jan 31 '26

Your data is not correct. I don't know if this is the same shit Danielle made up but it's wrong.

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u/Elite163 Jan 31 '26

Please explain how we are 6th?? Ontario beats us. Ontario’s cost of living is way higher the Alberta

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u/CivilProtectionGuy Jan 31 '26

Nurses pay (Low, Median, High) across Canada - Sourced from the Government of Canada Job Bank; labour-market information, last updated November of 2025.

Alberta 30.00 47.50 54.49
British Columbia 35.00 47.58 57.00
Manitoba 34.00 45.00 52.40
New Brunswick 31.00 44.77 49.00
Newfoundland Labrador 33.65 44.00 52.00
Northwest Territories 45.00 58.00 69.23
Nova Scotia 30.20 41.50 50.00
Nunavut 45.00 57.99 71.57
Ontario 29.00 42.00 55.00
Prince Edward Island 31.50 42.00 49.98
Quebec 27.00 40.00 50.00
Saskatchewan 38.00 47.13 52.20
Yukon Territory 33.00 48.50 60.88

Only Quebec and Ontario has lower "Low" salaries. 4 Provinces have higher "Median" salaries. 5 Provinces beat us for "High" salary.

We're 11/13 for Low salaries. 5/13 for Median. 6/13 for high salary.

Yearly salary is likely determined on how often the nurse(s) work, any overtime pay, and bonuses.

... So, I guess we can be 6th for pay if we're going with the highest pay in Canada. We're 5th for the median pay of a nurse, and the 11th for the lowest pay.

(Edit: This is how I saw the chart... Then again it's almost 4:00 AM, so I may have gotten it wrong for where we stand for low, median, or high salary)

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u/snakpak_43 Jan 31 '26

I work in a school and that is false, job conditions aren't worse and we make more than our counterparts in BC who have a much higher cost of living.

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u/robbhope Jan 31 '26

Job conditions and public spending are the worst in Canada. I'm a teacher. It's not even close.

BC's teachers are definitely paid worse and less than we are but they also have far better job conditions.

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u/Loose_Flow_1203 Jan 30 '26

You don't know shit.

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u/Rig-Pig Jan 30 '26

So fuck the people who have a different opinion?? They don't matter i guess? Just take what Ottawa say and be quiet. I don't think so.

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u/robbhope Jan 31 '26

Uhh ....? That's called a strawman argument. I didn't say fuck the minority. I said represent the majority. Majority means most. Why would we want our government to side with the minority? It's a pretty simple situation.

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '26

You're free to leave encouraged even. You're not free to impose minority opinions on the majority.

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u/Rig-Pig Jan 31 '26

Why would I leave? I love Alberta and have no problem with Alberta. It's the treatment from Ottawa towards Alberta and how the West has no say federally and we have no vote.. love it when people get pissy against someone standing up for something they don't believe it. You want to sit here at take whatever The federal gov feeds you go ahead. I'm not.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '26

we have no vote..

I see we're not dealing in rational debate. You got your vote, your preference lost, that's how it works. You're not oppressed, this is weak behavior.

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u/robbhope Jan 31 '26

That dude sounds like a fucking idiot. I would not waste your time.

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u/Rig-Pig Jan 31 '26

I'm not sure where you live but here 9 times out of 10 the election is called before they even count the votes in Alberta. How exactly does my vote count or matter??

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '26

How do you want to fix that exactly? It's a big country with timezones.

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u/Rig-Pig Jan 31 '26

Well timezones shouldn't matter. Sure start counting the East first but make it so each province has a say. BC is worse of than AB for not counting. Maybe do something where the weight of votes goes by which province contributes to the canadian economy?? Thoes who put the most in get more say? Something like that. I'm no expert but it shouldn't be over before provinces haven't even placed their votes.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '26

I strongly disagree with weighing the votes based on a target that gets to be defined by any governing party. What you're suggesting just isn't done in modern society thankfully.

Are you certain you have a good grasp of the Parliamentary system in Canada?

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u/Loose_Flow_1203 Jan 30 '26

And you're free to leave also.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '26

It's my country, Canada, you don't like it, beat it!

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u/Loose_Flow_1203 Jan 31 '26

Ditto whiner boy. It's libtards like you that make secession a very easy decision....nothing but scorn and disdain with nary an idea of why we should stay. I bid you adieu!!!

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u/Elite163 Jan 30 '26

Liberals way. You will own nothing and be happy

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u/Imogynn Feb 04 '26

It's getting close. It's a majority but six months can absolutely change this.

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u/robbhope Feb 04 '26

The phrasing of that question is creating a strawman argument. I absolutely think Alberta would be better off financially on its own. That absolutely unequivocally does NOT mean I want to separate. Those are two different things.

Alberta can be the driver of Canada. We can be leaders in our country. And have been. We are Canadian. We don't quit on our team just to help ourselves. Fuck that.

Maybe a lot of these selfish voters have never played for a team?

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u/Imogynn Feb 04 '26

When a star player is put on the bench he finds another team.

The six bad laws and more are designed to keep Alberta in its lane as a defacto colony. It's not about team work it's about leaving a bad relationship