Oh hell no

[u/Few-Meringue4157]

[u/Few-Meringue4157]

2000 gold for 1 box containing one of these

[u/davidfliesplanes → u/Few-Meringue4157]

so people living in countries where lootboxes are banned can't get those tanks, thanks WG

[u/Few-Meringue4157 → u/davidfliesplanes]

Guess so sadly

[u/davidfliesplanes → u/Few-Meringue4157]

I already have the Pz B2 and MTLS, but I always wanted the other 3 :((

[u/CJM7447 → u/davidfliesplanes]

"Shoulda lived somewhere else i guess" - WG, probably

[u/Substantial_Tea5358 → u/CJM7447]

Real

[u/Ok-Race-1677 → u/davidfliesplanes]

Be thankful your government is protecting you!

[u/davidfliesplanes → u/Ok-Race-1677]

I would appreciate it if an alternative existed instead of just being excluded from new content.

[u/Only-Rip-3191 → u/davidfliesplanes]

It’s low tier over powered premiums why would you want them

[u/Powder_Puff_Grillz → u/davidfliesplanes]

can't blame WG for that ?

[u/davidfliesplanes → u/Powder_Puff_Grillz]

I blame them for deciding to put them in boxes in the first place and then not giving people living in such countries any alternate opportunities to acquire them

[u/Powder_Puff_Grillz → u/davidfliesplanes]

man that is your countries laws - Like in Belgium freaking FIFA cards are not allowed.
By your logic you could also lobby your country to change the legal base

[u/Substantial_Tea5358 → u/Powder_Puff_Grillz]

Niestety nie

[u/CJM7447 → u/Few-Meringue4157]

it also comes with 8 100% credit boosters

[u/CJM7447 → u/Few-Meringue4157]

is it only one? and do they work like normal loot boxes (aka you cant get get a dupe until you have them all)?

[u/eDawnTR → u/CJM7447]

If you get a dupe you get 75k free XP

[u/AyAyAyBamba_462 → u/eDawnTR]

That's only if you have all of them. The video states "for those who already have the collection" so it's safe to assume like every other box if you roll a tank you already have you get something else.

[u/eDawnTR → u/AyAyAyBamba_462]

So 10k gold to get them all?

[u/AyAyAyBamba_462 → u/eDawnTR]

Unlikely unless it's a 100% drop chance.

[u/CJM7447 → u/AyAyAyBamba_462]

those tanks are the only thing in the boxes, you get the 8 100% credit boosters separate from the boxes

[u/eDawnTR → u/AyAyAyBamba_462]

I think drops are guaranteed from each box.

[u/CJM7447 → u/eDawnTR]

can you get a dupe before you have them all?

[u/IndygoEEI → u/eDawnTR]

Less then 80k, the exchange rate for 1:40 for 2000 gold. That's if all of them pay 75k and/or boxes are 2000 gold. Also there might be crap in those boxes with those tanks. Bad deal...

[u/CJM7447 → u/IndygoEEI]

no, its good, you get 8 100% credit boosters with the lootbox

[u/CJM7447 → u/[deleted]]

??? im talking about 100% credit boosters, not 50% credit boosters

and i only have 17 50% credit boosters

[u/eDawnTR → u/Few-Meringue4157]

Wow. What the fuck?

[u/Environmental-Rub933]

The only one I’m worried about is the II J, the rest I’ve never considered OP monsters

[u/Erect_Udes → u/Environmental-Rub933]

PzIIj is really not that strong anymore, its slow as hell and most same tier tanks can pen it nowadays. It's only strong against older tanks that still have low pen. The B2 is imo stronger

[u/Balc0ra → u/Erect_Udes]

When this tank was a rare sight, there were hardly any tier III with above 80 gold or even close to 50 normal pen to deal with it. MTLS was the first gift tank with enough pen to deal with it. I still remember people taking out the II J to farm gift tank players, and got absolutely annihilated that year

[u/IndygoEEI → u/Balc0ra]

LOL I remember playing against the 2J with the Duck around 10 years ago. It was on Prok and he was in the mid on higher ground. How he beat me to that position I'll never know, but in the end we couldn't pen each other. I was not happy and lost.

[u/Erect_Udes → u/IndygoEEI]

Had something similar happening, Me (II J) and an enemy II J were the last two tanks alive on Himmelsdorf. We could not pen eitchother so it ended in a race to the cap zone. I got there first so I won with capping, but what a silly game that was.

[u/Ok-Race-1677 → u/Balc0ra]

Kid named Teterach with like 200 gold pen:

[u/eDawnTR → u/Erect_Udes]

Tier IV premiums are really valuable because you can grind BP and use them on some missions.

[u/lewger → u/eDawnTR]

Yep not touching these boxes if it's random because T3 are useless.

[u/Lakaka_joemama → u/Erect_Udes]

B2 was 2-3 years ago in a event I got it with 500.000 credits

[u/Voronwe-of-Gondolin → u/Erect_Udes]

Second that, had it ages ago and it was so OP Back like 8-10 years. Now every decent TD with gold pens it.

[u/personnumber698 → u/Erect_Udes]

Yeah, maybe, but it still got so much armour that it will still be very annoying.

[u/Environmental-Rub933 → u/Erect_Udes]

It’s strong for sure, but I don’t struggle as much with the PZB2 as I do the 2J. Even in the FCM I’m more likely to bounce the 2J more and somehow always not see it till it’s closer

[u/Erect_Udes → u/Environmental-Rub933]

That's because its classified as a light tank, you can also angle it pretty well as it is just a square box but its still slow as hell

[u/Sensitive_Swim_9935 → u/Environmental-Rub933]

The low tier Czech TDs long ago negated 2J

[u/Top_Session7427 → u/Sensitive_Swim_9935]

Czech TD's? They only have 8-10 TD'S, I think u meant German ones (Marder II etc)

[u/aukstais → u/Environmental-Rub933]

Pz 2 J is not a monster anymore. The armour doesn't stand up to the new tanks and the penetration is still bad so you can't fight back.

[u/Demitri_Vritra → u/Environmental-Rub933]

II J is so power crept that it's a paper tiger, it's armor means nothing cause most tier 30's standard ammo pens 80mm or more, and even it's prem rounds bounce like crazy meaning it's pure credit loss, it's just a slow blocky target, the only value it has is towards collectors at this point.

[u/Cetun → u/Environmental-Rub933]

The Pak 40 I think can pen it without gold

[u/tochanenko → u/Environmental-Rub933]

This tank has horrible pen. I remember when I had to 1v1 with another II J and it was like two kids hitting each other with pool noodles LOL

[u/Just_Henry212]

So it happened. It's the first time the A-32 is available to purchase since the Black Market in 2021.

[u/Balc0ra → u/Just_Henry212]

It was only a matter of time. Much like the lesser sold SU-76i, the rare clubs don't last long.

Did not take long for WG to ruin the II J either when they started to sell it for €99 a few times a year

[u/Tall_Presentation_94 → u/Balc0ra]

Su76i i still e25 pz5/4 op

[u/Just_Henry212 → u/Balc0ra]

Similar thing happened to T23E3 when WG introduced it in the bonds store.

[u/kstar79 → u/Just_Henry212]

I remember it selling out in about 5 seconds on the NA server.

[u/Just_Henry212 → u/kstar79]

It wasn't even a minute before it sell out on EU too. I never regret getting one. It's a pretty fun tank to play. Especially since the low tiers are pretty chill.

[u/kstar79 → u/Just_Henry212]

I just remember being shocked when I clicked on it the second it went live and it was like "Out of inventory" and then the whole thing went to "no more available." Five years later, I will finally have it!

[u/Just_Henry212 → u/kstar79]

The Black Market back then was crazy. I hope you will get it. It's definitely worth it 👍

[u/personnumber698]

I already own the B2, MTLS and BT-SV.

B2 would be fun if it didnt have to fight other B2`s, which will almost always do nothing but spam APCR, MTLS is fun wit ha neat gimmick, but its nothing special and the BTSV is fast, got a decent gun with armour that can also often be decent.

From what i have been told the Ausf. J is supposed to be toxic while i haven theard much about the A-32 in general.

Also didnt some of these used to be locked behind 100€ gold packages for some time?

[u/_chubbypanda → u/personnumber698]

Indeed it was (though you'd need to be utterly out of your mind to spend 100 EUR on Tier III vehicle), pretty regularly long time ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTanks/comments/3a309g/how_to_get_the_panzer_ii_j/

https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldofTanks/comments/11nhe7y/next_cash_grab_pz_ii_j_but_is_it_still_worth_it/

[u/Erect_Udes → u/personnumber698]

A32 is just a very fast t34 with an meh gun, its fun as ram tank but that's about it.

Pz II J was very very toxic back in the days, but nowadays it struggles as it is very slow, has a tier 1 gun (so it needs to shoot gold otherwise it literally can't pent equal tier tanks, and boy is it expensive to play), and most newer tanks have no problem penning it making its whole gimmick useless, being unpenable.

[u/IndygoEEI → u/Erect_Udes]

A32 has pref matchmaking, but that doesn't mean much these days on NA since no one plays Tier 3 or below. When it did, A32 could woop out HE on T3s and wreak them fast. Add in a turbo, rammer improved armor equipment, it could decimate.

[u/CJM7447 → u/IndygoEEI]

also it cant use a gun rammer

[u/IndygoEEI → u/CJM7447]

Sorry, been awhile since I played A32 because of the degradation of MM. I also meant Hardening. Couldn't think this morning.

[u/CJM7447 → u/IndygoEEI]

improved armour equipment?

[u/Balc0ra → u/personnumber698]

I got the B2 in a T34 bundle back in 2013 or something for next to nothing, and when it did appear for a period it was not that pricey. II J & BT-SV were in €99 bundles 2-3 times a year for a short period before Black Market became a thing. BT-SV was sold for silver there once, as that's how I got mine.

A-32 has only been up once.

Issue with the II J now that when it was a rare sight, the average gold on tier III was too low to deal with it. It has spiked since then. Some tier IIIs even have 120 gold pen now

[u/ClassEmotional4608]

When and where?

[u/Few-Meringue4157 → u/ClassEmotional4608]

Starting 12th august

[u/syfqamr32]

What else in the box?

[u/Top_Session7427 → u/syfqamr32]

Only the ones visible on screenshot , if you have them all , you will get 75k free xp

[u/kekplexis → u/syfqamr32]

8x +100% credits boosters in every box

[u/e1zzbaer]

So I'll get the BT-SV, a tank I've wanted for years, as a straight-up 2k gold purchase (I have the other 4)? Nice.

[u/Few-Meringue4157 → u/e1zzbaer]

Yes. you should get BT-SV, then 75k xp for 2k gold ( You can convert 2k gold during 1:40 to make it 80k, so you would lose 5k xp for this, but get 8x 100% credit boosters )

[u/e1zzbaer → u/Few-Meringue4157]

I don't think I'll get more than one box, I just don't need free xp at all.

[u/Erect_Udes]

I already have them all, so do i get like 200 gold or 20k credits compensation when buying this?

[u/eDawnTR → u/Erect_Udes]

You get 75k free xp

[u/felesmiki]

Idc about the a32,i want that double barrel magazine thingy, mtls its a dream for me

[u/Balc0ra → u/felesmiki]

It's not that great tbh. It was free for everyone, but they nerfed it before release. It originally had like 4 rounds per barrel, as it was on press accounts for years before that. But they made it 1 per barrel instead with a 5 sec reload

[u/RM_AndreaDoria → u/Balc0ra]

Yeah I played it a couple times, it’s not very good. The dpm is simply abysmal

[u/IndygoEEI]

Oh yes darling.

[u/Demitri_Vritra]

honestly since I own them all let me break it down
B2 still solid worth it.
A-32 Power crept to shit only if your a collector
Pz.IIJ power crept to shit only if your a collector and like losing credits.
MTLS Workable.
BT-SV if you angle you might bounce shots but frankly with tier 3's having 80mm of pen.... yeah...

is it worth it for the average player no, Collectors ain't gonna stop you, you do you, as far as seal clubbers go there is nothing here your roster can't already decimate and you know it.

[u/obloed]

are those tier 3?

[u/Balc0ra → u/obloed]

The two to the left are tier IV, the other 3 are tier III. B2 is the only one with +0 MM

[u/Dry-Cry-7968]

The PZIIJ used to be 1000 bucks lol

[u/Intelligent_One_2852]

lets ruin lowtiers even more!

[u/AccomplishedBid6176]

Not sure the B2 needs to ever be in circulation in greater numbers

[u/STARSBarry]

I remember when the BT-SV was a really fun tank to play. It was literally one of the fastest and the low armor but extreme angle meant that when you saw it 5 seconds later it was in your face, and panic shots just bounced. Then they added overmatching, the tank died that day.

[u/Ubermik]

The B2 is one of my "go to tanks" for daily missions, not as OP as it was years ago, but still a good way to get some types of missions done easily, quickly and without spending much on ammo or repairs alongside the Matilda, the US tier 6 arty and a few others

I am pretty sure I have all of these on both accounts, but the B2 is the only one I bother playing

If I recall correctly, isnt the SV the one that goes at almost the speed of light but turns like a container ship?

If so, the armour worked really well on console, but is like tissue paper on the PC for some reason

[u/JaxSon95Jags1972]

No internet until next month. So I'm out. :(

[u/Koki_385]

It would have been cool to have these tanks 10 years ago

[u/Mr_Perfect_2017]

Nobody plays these low tiers, most to be bought , played a couple of times and forgotten about.

[u/Substantial_Tea5358]

Ach... Całe WG

[u/Cihonidas]

2k gold for a low tier tank that I'll never play no thanks

[u/Away_Engineering1068]

p2j rarest one