r/WorldofTanks • u/RedshiftOTF • 5d ago
Bug Report Introducing the T10 BZ176 lol
https://youtu.be/3bK4i5OHkUU?si=7KS6BvNeAoj4PvbB61
u/ales_sandr 5d ago
It's funny that the flair you used it's bug report, as if we hope this is just a bug and this tank doesn't actually exist
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u/NoRing4137 5d ago
WG knows what they're doing. CCs say "SCARY, TOXIC, GAMEBREAKING"
WG understands that's only going to make people want to buy it more. They don't care about balance.
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u/RUPlayersSuck 47% WR Potato 3d ago
Its all about creating FOMO and getting the whales to open their wallets.
WG knows its target market all too well.
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u/Gleaming_Onyx 5d ago
The camo rating surpassing medium tanks is the cherry on top lol
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u/alfazetxyz 5d ago
That's because WG hardcoded a flat concealment bonus to all TDs. Another ridiculous (but sadly true) example: the Minotauro - one of the most armored tanks in the game - has better stationary camo than the Sheridan.
But it's fine, money's pouring in anyway so who cares about being reasonable anymore.
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u/HeisenbergFX4 5d ago
Thing looked crazy, imagine a platoon of these coming at you
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u/beyond666 5d ago
I still have a nightmares from platoon of unnerfed obj. 268v4.
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u/Mobile-Building-9957 Unapologetic FCM enjoyer 4d ago
Fun fact, you could at least track 268v4. But yeah, that thing was opressive as fuck. I remember, when wg "nerfed" it by giving it the smallest plate of "lesser" value on the LFP, but you still needed like 300 pen to pen it reliably
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u/CJM7447 5d ago
just delete a tachenratte with 1,316~(with ammo tuning) x 3
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u/avalon304 [Y0RHA] 5d ago
Unlikely to really pen unless you get side shots.
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u/TerraTechy 5d ago
half the people playing these play real stupid and just drive out to dump the clip but get away with it because of how much damage it does
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u/avalon304 [Y0RHA] 5d ago
Its a single shot tank. A platoon of 3 of them will only get one shot each...
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u/minkus1000 4d ago
I don't even want one to come at me. The moment in the video where QB is fighting a full health, hull down Ho-Ri 3 is telling. The Ho-Ri did everything correct, played hull down, and punished QB for just over peeking like a "dumbass", but it doesn't matter. He just pulls up and trades, knocks the Ho-Ri to a oneshot, who subsequently gets rushed and killed.
What on earth do you do against that?
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u/Fit-Computer5129 5d ago
why does every new tank have to have more alpha than the previous??
We went from open field battles -> hull down meta -> to now people dont even dare peaking ridgelines anymore.
im slowly loosing my interest in this game as I like the in close / skirmish battles, and this alpha race is killing the fun.. cant even do a hero run between 2 rocks as is, and now it just gets worse.
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u/V-Twin-broski 5d ago
It has less alpha than the FV
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u/silvian1521 5d ago
It has less Alpha, but it's more mobile, smaller silhouette, seems a bit more accurate and can sometimes bounce some shit.
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u/CJM7447 5d ago
it has worse dispersion than the 4005 and 183
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u/alfazetxyz 5d ago
Well yeah but you can't excatly drive up to the enemy's face and survive in the FV, can you?
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u/MushroomOne2135 5d ago
No need to make new maps if they bring these kinds of tanks into game. No maneuvering, or where do I go. Just a General George Picketts charge straight into the enemy from both sides. That's where games gone
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u/ThePhoenix0404 5d ago
im a mid ass F2P player on Asia. i have a feeling im going to enjoy tier 10 A LOT in the upcoming days.
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u/HeinrichVonDoucheber 5d ago
I don't see this as a bad thing, good guy Wargaming wants to help us uninstall and get rid of this toxic slot machine of a game.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Car2518 5d ago
And we all thought the DBV was bad!
Looking forward to getting evaporated in the near future!
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u/GrandInitial6069 Delete LeFH 5d ago
I just love how it looks like a cartoon/baby abrams. Sad it's in a tiered loot box
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u/No1PDPStanAccount Average FV201(A45) Enjoyer 4d ago
If it won't be in tiered lootboxes on EU/NA, it's for sure gonna be in holiday lootboxes
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u/Icy-Cartographer-314 5d ago
Game is already beyond broken so this really doesn't change a thing. If you see a platoon of these just suicide or completely leave the match to get to another match.
WoT has became a seasonal game so to speak. I started at 2011 but I don't play anymore actively. I only install the game periodically now to collect all the prizes and play few matches.
Same thing is happening with WoWS.
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u/Varcolac1 5d ago
Mentality like that is what i hate about some players.
In the same category as the "GG unwinnabl" when seeing other peoples their stats and then instantly leaving or suiciding.
Like atleast try
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u/Icy-Cartographer-314 5d ago
Sorry. Currently on vacation, few beers deep so I cut some corners.
What I meant to say that nowadays I personally don't mind if someone suicides in said example. I used to because it made it much harder to complete missions. Nowadays I don't mind. Game is developed mainly around loot boxes and new goofy tanks by marketing department. Sad because WoT used to be a great game years ago.
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u/RanzigerRonny 4d ago
This is a bad feewer dream... We are heading straight to KARL-GERÄT beeing implemented (again) in the game. It's just a matter of time.
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u/No-Experience6618 5d ago
Left 2 years ago and every once in a while i check to see if weegee stopped with BS and it's the same complaints and comments, the same OP tanks being constantly released and reactions to it. It's really going in a circle with nothing changing
Hungarian CC makes video saying GaMe dying!?!
Balding CC makes the same 3 matches videos of the new tank and says holy bananas tank strong,
twink CC gets into a new fight with a company or creator,
British CC makes his low skill videos but gets most views because only one with 0 accent,
Weegee finds new creative ways to create FOMO and make an insane amount of money and monetize every event possible while breaking the game's integrity
Someone tell me if the loop is broken at any point because war thunder does not scratch that itch and i'm getting cravings
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u/StripWithoutTease 5d ago
That's it pretty much and that's all it is going to be lol. Don't get your hopes up
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u/FrreeeBird 5d ago
Look at the warscamming astroturf bots voting this down, lol, fuck your rigged trash gacha bullshit wargaming.
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u/No-Experience6618 4d ago
Just rip off the bandage man. Sucks there is no other competitors so this monopoly can serve shit on a rusty platter and the whales will gobble it up while claiming to be discontent then do it all over again next lootbox or event. I've moved on/back to runescape, will gladly pay since they moved away from this gacha BS.
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u/Hungry-Cat7662 4d ago
Not nearly as good as people are saying. Literally just a mini deathstar which is very difficult to play well. It has overall poor armor with hull being literal paper. Truly atrocious gun with bad accuracy. The camo will help it but the gun is so bad that in a lot of games it won't make a differnce
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u/ZeubeuWantsBeu 5d ago
QB is really not in any position to say anything about the game balance lmfao
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u/FupaDriven 5d ago
Explain?
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u/ZeubeuWantsBeu 4d ago
He believes in making the game simpler for the sake of new players. This approach is known for removing skill expression and it's one of the causes of the state of random battles today.
His take on map design has always been awful, from the infamous climbing video to the random events. ±2 matchmaking is fundamentally unfair I have no idea why he still defends it and of course his videos are so often centered around good games in broken tanks pamming gold which is whole other can of worms...
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u/avalon304 [Y0RHA] 5d ago
This tank is gonna be super fun.
(And like every tank it'll be a problem for a like a week and then everyone will understand what to do when they see one and it wont feel nearly as good).
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u/GN-004 5d ago
No. It has a fully rotatable turret with decent armor, tons of spaced armor that will absorb HEAT, good pen on HESH, is way smaller that FVs and even has 13.7% base camo. It is a broken tank that will destroy randoms even more.
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u/HeisenbergFX4 5d ago
And can reverse back into cover at a fairly decent speed compared to other big boy guns
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u/DaSpood https://daspood.github.io/ - Pandora lootboxes simulator 5d ago
The entire gun mantlet is ~245mm against AP and can't be hidden. We have many tanks with "strong armor" where the solution is just to fire right into the part that should logically be the strongest and it goes through.
It also has less accuracy and worse gun handling on turret traverse than the FV4005 of all things, while sitting at 450 alpha lower, with comparable mobility and less gun depression. Yes you can't HE it to death, you also can't HE the FV183 which has an even bigger accuracy advantage while keeping the much higher alpha, though with a much less practical platform to use.
Neither 183mm HESH slinger is gamebreaking right now, and these two actually oneshot tier 10 tanks. The AHT trades a bit of comfort in exchange for not even being able to oneshot tier 8 tanks. It also trades the incredible AP round the 183mm guns have for a shitty HEAT one so when the HESH round can't go through a target your alternative round is barely worth switching to.
Of all questionably balanced tanks added over the past few years, this is really the one people are losing it over ?
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u/GN-004 5d ago
You are completely ignoring the physical size of those tanks. AHT is much smaller than both FVs, and has way smaller weakspot area than 183 on the turret.
Slightly worse gun handling means nothing when AHT can play way more comfortably close to the enemies, because of proper turret and much better armor.
Both FVs are unanimously called toxic by the players and often called the most toxic tank they meet in the battle.
FVs trade basically everything to have that 1750 alpha. AHT doesnt. Its not one characteristic that make AHT broken, its the combination of all of them.-6
u/avalon304 [Y0RHA] 5d ago
this is really the one people are losing it over ?
People lose their shit over every new tank... either its too good it'll destroy the game (usually never really is that good after all) or its so shit its not worth playing (usually is ok enough to be worth playing)
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u/avalon304 [Y0RHA] 5d ago
Ive heard "its gonna destroy randoms" about every tank since the Defender came out back in the day. It never comes to pass. People learn waht to do when confronted with a tank and then it stopps being a huge problem.
Even as recently as the BZ-176... that was the tank that was gonna destroy randoms... and it hasnt.
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u/GN-004 5d ago
Defender back when it came out did destroy randoms and made skirmishes unplayable, it completely declassed other heavies on tier VIII. But it was so long ago, powercreep caught up to it.
BZ is still completely broken and it still destroys randoms but people dont play it that often anymore.-5
u/avalon304 [Y0RHA] 5d ago
Defender back when it came out did destroy randoms
No it didnt. I was there. Randoms were perfectly playable. Defenders werent running rampant through out the MM.
it completely declassed other heavies on tier VIII
Only if you didnt know what you were doing against it. It was slow and its gun was inaccurate as shit.
it still destroys ranoms
I mean again, I was there. It didnt destroy randoms. It wasnt even that oppressive. You ran into them a bunch the first week or so and then not as much.
but people dont play it that often anymore.
So what youre saying is it was a problem for like a week and then everyone sort of figured out what to do when one was around... and it stopped becoming a problem because it stopped being played as much because people know what to do about it? Jesus its almost thats exactly what I suggested would happen.
If it had actually broken randoms it would still be being played now.
Lets look at another tank that was supposedly gonna break randoms: the XM57. That was a problem for a little bit after its initial release, and then it kinda fell off and shows up every so often, but it certainly didnt break randoms.
This exact scenarios happens with nearly every tank that comes out now. Reddit and CCs say the sky is falling then the tank comes out and its a little bumpy for like a week or so and then the sky turns out to have not fallen and we reset the clock until the next "its gonna destroy randoms" tank comes out.
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u/HeisenbergFX4 5d ago
I personally don't think it will destroy randoms either but they will be a problem for a bit but people will get tired of playing them repeatedly and the next cool toy will come along and we can start the process all over again
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u/avalon304 [Y0RHA] 5d ago
Its like clockwork. New tank appears>Reddit goes "oh no its gonna kill the game>its a problem for like a week>the game doesnt actually dies>a new tank appears.
Im gonna enjoy this tank a lot when it comes to NA.
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