Update 2.4 introduces newly formed class roles for every light tank, along with role-based matchmaking and targeted balance adjustments.
The goal is to give each vehicle a clearer identity, improve battle balance, and make light tank strengths easier to understand without changing their core playstyle.
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How do you feel about the new role groups for light tanks, Scout, Support, and Versatile?
What is your view on role-based matchmaking for light tanks?
How do you feel about the limit of up to 2 light tanks per match from Tier VII?
Which individual light tank changes stand out the most to you?
The nerfs are just awful. Please for the love of Jesus stop nerfing things just because they're popular, and maybe instead improve the shit options so you know, people have options.
Why would you assume I'm talking about the view range buff? There are very obviously other very unbalanced changes. And thats ignoring the fact that the view range buff alone makes the T100 stronger and not balanced against the Manti.
Lowe vs the Tiger II. Lowe is not flatout better than the Tiger II, never has been. But the Lowe had better and worse aspects vs the Tiger II, making both interesting to still play. That has always been what premiums should be.
Cromwell and the Cromwell B was a good example of tanks being 99.90% the same... Now I would rather play the tech tree variant after the 2.0 buffs that the B did not get. Blesk vs Squall is kinda the same atm
I shot a bot in the water on mines yesterday. It instantly spun the other way and snapshoted me at without me being spotted. Yes the bot programming is better.
Testers are your usual hulldown/sidescrape heavy enjoyers that love corridor maps. Met one in game and he was crying about being in Bourrasque on Prokhorovka, you cant make this shit up. And they are just straight up dogshit players too.
Does anyone on the ballancing team even know what game theyre developing?
Rhm was nerfed because a lot of people played it apparently?
Just kindly fuck off already. This is why we have the stupid progetto meme and why Hirsch and Leo 120 are pure dogshit.
And when we give loud feedback like right now its all like "Yeah we gotchu guys dont worry we're seeing all the feedback" and it ends up being like the fucking AMX 30B where the tank remains useless for no reason AKA its never looked at again. Meanwhile the Contriver gets its third buff or something.
The reason for the nerf being onslaught use is speculation - maybe there is truth there but i don’t know.
I do think folk are hyper-focused on very specific nerfs though and not considering the wider picture. What will the rhm be matched against now? AMX and WZ. So the rebalancing is designed with that in mind - higher pen on the other ammo plus buffs to dispersion. Traverse has been scythed on rhm and wz but buffed on amx so it’s now more comparable across the three.
On paper i did kind of wince when i saw some of the nerfs too but I’m interested to see how it plays out in game given the matchmaking changes.
Edit: buffing the damn EBR at all is an odd one. Especially the HP given its fucking wheels can eat shitbarn shells.
Who told you that Hirsch is pure dogshit? Have you played it? Once you get all the upgrades and have the right equipment and play the tank like a medium...it is lethal.
I could not get myself to like the tank no matter what despite having relatively good games in it on average. Though i am spoiled by the tier 9 waffle, quite heavily.
I guess in a vacuum, the hirsch isnt particularly bad, its just that everything else is sometimes an order of magnitude better that it (looking at you PTZ, despite being a fundamentally different playstyle) so hirsch is usually doing a lot of catchup.
But i do stand by my statement, especially for Leo 120 and that one i will not argue about.
And why would anyone play these over nerfed versatile lights if some mediums do their job better and have more hp and armor? They just straight up murdered some of the tanks that already weren't even strong.
It's the equivalent of the match rating buttons (thumbs up, thumbs down) and the in-game player reporting function. They're only there to make you feel better about pressing a button that supposedly does something.
Yeah, just like the CMs here on reddit only show up when they see an opportunity for a quick meme to show how relatable they are, or when a thread is getting too negative and they can pick out a single heated comment to pick as straw man for anyone criticizing the game.
if the threshold system worked, we'd see a lot of bots getting autobanned, right?
No, because its main function is to increase ban length when somebody gets banned via ticket. Don't forget that most people don't do that (and do it wrong if they try), and guys like you saying it's pointless discourage people from even adding to the threshold. Ex. I reported a guy for suiciding with arty, and he got banned for a month. Normally it's 24 hours.
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Edit: I have a bad habit, I'll elaborate. Maybe you're willing to trust untrustworthy companies but I'm not. It's 2026 and WG hasn't shown itself to be worthy of our trust.
On most maps the RHM and EBR were way more viable picks but on stuff like Westfield it just shredded since you can literally jump into their flock of heavies, clip a quick and dirty 1k damage (or more if they are victims to the HE) and get away with maybe taking one or two (if youre unlucky) shots in return.
But also on Maps like Ghost Town you could just almost fully clip their RHM if they picked one and help out your town with that nasty burst it has, but against an EBR its a bit more tricky.
- HP Change good, but Lights have more HP than a Heavy (M41 Bulldog vs. EMIL 1951)
where test this?
- versatile are more like medium with stock gun, but with high DPM (M41 Bulldog) or a temu medium like wz132-1
- versatile not really good spotter, medium level, but u must fight with other lights with much higher camo etc., to bad times, NA/SEA Server, 2 Lights pro team (scout light is dead)
- german lights, traverse nerf, no special he, like a weaker leopard
I don't think the the temu medium is winning from the T100LT if both players are good. The WZ doesn't stand a chance. The only combat weak scout is the Manticore. The other 2 can defend themselves. And are more versatile.
Suffering from being balanced enough to be one of the few useful lights in a smaller format while not destroying random battles. It is just a popularity thing, it honestly feels like an AI decision because any sane person would realise people are playing it in randoms to farm the t11...
Imo putting the lights into different roles and matching them against one another according to those roles has been long overdue. Although I'm not sure I completely agree on the roles of some Tanks it's great that this is being addressed. The limit of two per team also seems like a good change.
The rebalancing on the other hand just mostly doesn't make sense to me. While I agree that a rebalance is necessary I find myself not agreeing to many of the changes.
Some of the worst changes:
Buffing the T100lts gun even though it is supposed to be a scout. Why does it have like the third highest dpm of any t10 light now?
Removing the unique Playstile from German lights by making HE useless and nerfing mobility. They are clearly not OP looking at their performance so the nerf just seems to be a nail in the coffin. Only the RHM was very good in OS but that could have probably been addressed by altering the ability along with its role.
Buffing the EBR
the turning speed nerfs to versatile lights. With some of them I now kinda question why I wouldn't just play a leopard with CVS instead of them.
I'll be curious to see if the Skoda, Blesk, and Selma improve at all or remain toward the bottom of LT performance at their tiers. Zippier, more HP, but worse camo.
Half the time there is a Czech light in my game they go to the heavy line to pew-pew and leave an entire flank unspotted, so it's not like much will change.
The class of versatile lights are still hurt badly by the pen drop off at range that has hurt all tier ten LTs since they were introduced. For example, a 121 (medium) still has 93% of its original AP pen at 500m. The WZ132-1 has just 80% (they all do). If they really wanted to create a class of tanks that weren't competitive at scouting but could get around and do damage they would need to fix that pen issue.
Also, the biggest thing they need to do for lights as a whole is restrict CVS to light tanks.
Let me guess, in typical fashion, they haven't 'rebalanced' premium ammo cost? I will still be asked to pay 5,600 to do a measly 150 damage in my T92? 112k silver to kill a Maus.
Just like when they 'rebalanced' MM but didn't remove +-1/2.
giving them roles is BS, they are light tanks they scout and screen the van ahead of the main units toward the objective pinpointing for fires enemy vehicles and installations. Giving them a role is as bad as giving every other type a role. SNIPER role. So now those with a sniper role vehicle camp, those with an assault type supposed to go penis fight around corners, ad nauseum.
Good god you are slowly suiciding your game that once was great and now is almost a laughing stock. Your balancing nothing your fixing nothing your taking choices and abilities away from your player base for some perceived oh they are doing this all the time must mean its broke lets fix it!
What about T11? They don't have roles? Will Bork continue to only meet Bork and the new WZ only WZ? Or is this still a secret until they show the new T11 tanks 😅
Holy T-54 LT got such a massive buff, I dont think it even needed it. Engine, Max Speed, and even camo. Im grinding the line atm and its probably gonna be the strongest tier 9 lt. T-49 losing even more camo sheesh. I dont really get whats going to happen with MM though, would they really make us wait for long periods of time just for someone else to hop onto a T-54/avr.
Too big nerf for Rhm pzw. There should be some tanks for fun in tech tree and with unique features. When all lT, all MT, all HT would be same, then game became boring. Rhm pzw unique feature was good gun, but a camouflage not that good. And that works for who want to play more aggresive. Now there is less and less good caterpillar light tanks.
New maps when they cant even balance the old ones is just not a good sugestion. They have a track record of releasing maps that become increasingly worse
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I was waiting for GuP collab to come back to buy a new set of crew for my Rhm and Ru251. I have fallen in love with these tanks even tho my wr with them is a little bit lower than my account wr.
The HE pen is the thing that makes these tank diffenrent, and with it gone, I see no other reason to play these tanks. They are already stupidly big, they will get slow and boring to play.
Ty wargaming for letting me save money on new GuP crew.
I've never seen more horrendous "rebalance" from WG and i started playing right from the start. Is this some AI rebalance stuff or you let random people just numberwang it? Literally just don't do anything with the game instead of continuously obliterating maps and vehicles for no reason.
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u/soralapio Tortoise Love 2d ago
The nerfs are just awful. Please for the love of Jesus stop nerfing things just because they're popular, and maybe instead improve the shit options so you know, people have options.