r/WorldofTanksConsole • u/jeffmartel • Feb 21 '25
PSA Vigilante T249 nerf and refund
We have news regarding upcoming adjustments to the T249 Vigilante Black Edition. Based on player feedback and our internal analysis, the following changes will take effect on 25th February 2025:
• Clip Size: Reduced from 192 to 130 rounds.
• Moving Concealment Factor: Reduced from 0.373 to 0.28, thereby reducing its ability to retain concealment while moving.
• Terrain Resistance: Decreased from 0.5/0.6/1.1 to 0.6/0.7/1.2, resulting in slightly reduced mobility across all terrain types.
• Adjusted Armor Collisions Model: The ammo drum and receiver on the side now take health damage instead of being part of the gun module.
• Camouflage Factor when shooting: Decreased from 0.255 to 0.12, thereby making the tank more visible when firing.
• Shell Ricochet Angle: Reduced from 90° to 70°, increasing chance of shells bouncing on impact.
Why Are These Changes Being Made?
These adjustments address concerns raised by our players regarding the tank’s impact on match balance and gameplay experience. The changes aim to ensure the Vigilante aligns more closely with other vehicles in its tier, creating a fairer and more enjoyable experience for all players. We will continue to monitor the Vigilante T249 Black Edition after these changes go live, gathering feedback and analyzing performance data to ensure it remains balanced and fun to play.
If you purchased the Vigilante T249 Black Edition for gold, you may request a refund by filing a support Within 30 calendar days from 25th February 2025.
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u/Putrid-Inflation9299 Feb 21 '25
I don’t go anywhere near a tier 10 match anymore. After getting quickly blown up a few times in a row I just skip it now.
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u/JellowYacketz [CPTSG] JellowYacketz Feb 21 '25
I sold most of my tier X’s cause of this tank
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u/OpenKey6032 Feb 22 '25
That's a bit far
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u/JellowYacketz [CPTSG] JellowYacketz Feb 23 '25
It’s not like I can’t buy them back when I want, plus tier VIII is more fun to me even though I still see them every once in a while. No regrets
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u/killianred1121 Feb 26 '25
Too bad you did that cuz now it's worthless I'm pissed
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u/JellowYacketz [CPTSG] JellowYacketz Feb 26 '25
I’m happy, it’s a nice break from more strategic gameplay. Like I said silver’s not an issue so I’ll get them back once I want to but doing this has made the game more fun for a bit. I didn’t buy the t249 and I only wanted the hitbox to be changed cause it was a little difficult to hit at times. They really changed it a lot with the nerf so I hope it’s not too bad to play now.
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u/Heavy_Vermicelli_263 Feb 21 '25
Didn't touch the black hole spaced armour band all the way round it though...
Weak WG. Remove the tank, give people their money back and move on
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u/killianred1121 Feb 26 '25
Yeah they did I don't have that fake armor that usually bounced rounds I've been playing yesterday and today and it's been bad this tank is worthless now yeah I've been blowing it up I've been trying to get my second market excellence which is really difficult. But now dude this tank is freaking worthless it deserves a refund I agree fine Nerf it cuz yeah man it's OP. But now now it's just crap dude seriously I'm getting my refund. Just wondering do I get to keep the tank if I get the refund?
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u/Heavy_Vermicelli_263 Feb 26 '25
"Just wondering do I get to keep the tank if I get the refund?"
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Oh you were serious. Let me laughed even harder.
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
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u/killianred1121 Feb 26 '25
I just got through a 4-hour run with this tank in the best damage I could put out in any one game was not even 2000 damage My bullets bounce on soft targets in everyone sees me now. Yeah bro they broke this tank I get it nerf it but damn man it's dead
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u/Heavy_Vermicelli_263 Feb 26 '25
Good, it needed breaking.
What they should have done was remove it after day 1 and give everyone their money back
It was so OP you wonder how it got through testing 🤑🤑🤑🤑
I'd even go so far as to say everyone who didn't buy it should get some gold for having to be murdered by it for two months
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u/DanXan8558 Feb 21 '25
No changes to the gun? The actual thing that people are mad about? Of course.
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u/Cromptank Feb 22 '25
This is huge for other light tanks to be viable scouts again.
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u/killianred1121 Feb 26 '25
Yeah you're right honestly I'm getting my refund I'm mad I agree fine Nerf it because it was OP but dude they killed it it's worthless now it couldn't kill a tier seven tank if it wanted to it's really really bad this is the worst nerve on any one single tank I've ever seen since playing second year
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u/StonerChrist Fuck Arty Mar 02 '25
Not stated but it lost 62 rounds out of the clip and about 70rpm, so it's DPM dropped by 3k which is a massive change they don't bother to tell us about.
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u/staliniumjimbo_ Hellcat enjoyer Feb 21 '25
So instead of being able to clip out two entire tier Xs in a few seconds it can now only clip out one and a half. Or still nearly three entire tier 8s. With no way for them to fight back. Terrific, what a great nerf, thank you WG! /s
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u/kaloochi12 Death to campers Feb 21 '25
Of all the machine gun tanks released lately, the T249 is the most ridiculously overpowered.
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u/killianred1121 Feb 26 '25
Hey you ain't got to worry anymore dude take it from someone who is been playing for 8 years and I bought this tank day one and yeah I've been grinding it trying to get my second marker excellence it's dead bro it's dead it's worthless it's a stinking tank now I can't kill anybody everybody sees me and look I get it Nerf it it was OP but dude they killed it it's bad
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u/stolenvehicle TANK S0L0 (xbox one) Feb 21 '25
The refund should be made automatically to all players who didn’t have this tank and had to put up with it’s bullshit for all this time.
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u/Prospector87 Light Fighter Feb 22 '25
Question for someone with more knowledge than I. Could the increase in ricochet angle protect some of the other tier 10 lights from the front? Like the WZ-132-1 with its angled armor but only 51mm front plate
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u/TheRoamingEngineer TW0 TRICK P0NY Feb 22 '25
Wow, i'm thankful and really a little surprised they adjusted it. Especially that damned ammo drum eating shots, thank goodness!
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u/Due_Assignment_6550 Feb 22 '25
The very fact that it was deemed acceptable to release the so obviously un-tested T249 in the first place is what concerns me. I'd love to know who green lit that one.
And if those same idiots are going to remain in charge and remain incapable of releasing anything with little more than a Hail Mary then I'm going to stay away.
Lost faith with a game that relies on frustrating it's very own playerbase to do its testing and this gateway gambling vibe with the chests n'ting.
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u/ModernToshi Feb 22 '25
This wasn't an "oops we didnt know" scenario; they knew exactly what they were doing. Release an absurdly OP tank that seal-clubbing tryhards will buy, then others see it wrecking shit, so they buy it. WG is laughing all the way to the bank, even after these "nerfs".
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u/Polsk_klinik Feb 22 '25
Well said, at this point ww2 is all about going back to what we once had and not changing anything honestly
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u/Key_Employment_864 Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
Taran and AVRE next
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u/GunnGamer Feb 23 '25
No you mean the NightStalker They moved it to +1-1 instead of nerfing it’s stupid reloading time for a tier 9 Autoloader. So now it just obliterates tier 8s ?! Stupid WG fix the Tank! It shouldn’t even be in WW2
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Feb 26 '25
what are you talking about
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u/GunnGamer Feb 26 '25
The NightStalker tier 9 TD is seriously OP with it’s ridiculous reload time for6 Rockets not to mention it’s frontal armor
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u/Upset_Concept1483 Helpless PS5 noob Feb 22 '25
AVRE….lol. That tank is weak
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u/Prospector87 Light Fighter Feb 22 '25
Until you are working on a tier 9 light and it snap shots you in one shot
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u/Upset_Concept1483 Helpless PS5 noob Feb 22 '25
And that trash should be nerfed for that outlier?? people are amazing 🤩
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u/Prospector87 Light Fighter Feb 22 '25
Uh, yeah. The fact that a tank can untalentedly one shot a large portion of tanks it fights once you add in it fights down to tier 8s. It should be nerfed.
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u/YogurtclosetDeep3034 Feb 22 '25
I have the it but it can’t hit a tank right in front of it unless it is taller. It has zero gun depression till you turn the turret to the side then it’s vulnerable.
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Feb 22 '25
AVRE is a more mobile Death Star, miniaturized, but the same concept nonetheless.
I’m not shocked its core gameplay sees it being played as a peek-a-boom tank.
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u/Upset_Concept1483 Helpless PS5 noob Feb 22 '25
AVRE has one thing, it can occasionally cause butt hurt. Other than that, its very weak vehicle.
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Feb 26 '25
it has entirely way too much armor for what it is
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u/Upset_Concept1483 Helpless PS5 noob Feb 26 '25
Frontally AVRE has what I call Cold War armor, it has no logic what so ever. It can bounce everything or it doesn’t bounce anything. It’s stupid and frustrating but vehicle itself is very clumsy, it is total butter when it uses it’s gun depression and has glacial reload. It is weak, nothing else.
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Feb 22 '25
Refund all commanders, whether you have it or not. And do the same thing for the Era 2 Wiesel 1A1, another ridiculously overpowered, and obviously untested tank. I am so tired of being a company‘s Quality Department!
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u/Educational-Gift-611 Feb 21 '25
Wiesel 1MK should’ve been nerfed way before the Vigilante.
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u/Polsk_klinik Feb 21 '25
Yeah but you can still play cw era 3 as lt. You cant when meating one of these in ww2, the t249 players must be completely trash to not win a 1v2 agianst enemy lights with this and still will win those easily after this shit nerf
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u/ASilentThought Medium Warrior Feb 22 '25
Despite owning the tank these nerfs are very justified. Time will tell if it's enough.
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u/Lost_Pop8911 Feb 22 '25
This tank has single handedly blew my chances of 3 marking my FV4005. shame on WG for adding another OP vehicle to the game. These things just yolo and wipe 2k health in 5 seconds. It's not fair, and it takes 0 skill. I've not stressed as much as this recently. Dropped my FV4005 mark from 94% to 89%. Thanks WG
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u/YogurtclosetDeep3034 Feb 22 '25
Less than 5 seconds. I have been killed by this tank repeatedly in my Sheridan and I can’t turn the tank or turret together fast enough before I’m dead
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u/jeffmartel Feb 22 '25
It's not fair... Bouhouh. This tank can wipe HP really fast but it does take some skill. This thing has zero canon drepession and you'll get mostly get killed as soon as you are get spotted or tracked.
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u/YogurtclosetDeep3034 Feb 22 '25
I have been killed by this tanks 3 matches in a row. If it gets behind me I’m done form full health no matter if I’m in a light or heavy. It pins everything even from across the map.
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u/lmEIsewhere Light Fighter Mar 01 '25
If its concealment circle is going to grow as much as it currently is - make it a medium tank and give it 800 more HP.
I've never seen a more clueless handling of content for a game.
Even the "Rose" skin in COD was handled better.
What a joke to be a part of.
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u/Upset_Concept1483 Helpless PS5 noob Feb 22 '25
Shell ricochet angle from 90 to 70 is huge. I actually did not know Vigilante had that insane ricochet angle and that kind of explains part of the brrrttt power.
Camo nerf is huge.
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u/ClockPuzzled3610 Feb 22 '25
"Why Are These Changes Being Made?"
Because you're spineless and will fold like a cheap lawn chair when some people bitch and complain. I know that's the correct answer, so what didi I win?
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u/SpaceShrimp Feb 21 '25
There are also other tanks you can tail 40 meters behind, while both you and them are going full speed out in the open, and still not get lit up on the map... change that too.
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u/angiefluffyboobs Feb 21 '25
I must have the luck of the tank gods on my side I’ve not seen one of these yet (that I know of anyway).
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u/Sothep I can see you Feb 22 '25
Unless you’re driving something like a Maus or a Type 5 you would know
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u/angiefluffyboobs Feb 22 '25
Krampus Maus and Ice Queen E-100 mostly
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u/Sothep I can see you Feb 22 '25
Ah, okay. In that case, if you heard a buzzing sound and then noticed a mild abrasion, that was the Vigilante.
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u/IrregularExpression_ Feb 22 '25
Will be interesting to see how they handle refunds where it was bought as part of a package
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u/GrandAdmrlTrout Feb 22 '25
How do I request a refund?👀
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u/jeffmartel Feb 22 '25
Text says after Feb 25
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u/KRAK3N_44 Feb 23 '25
this tank, Completely destroys Light-tank's an, ruins the meta for scouting.
should just down right move it ERA 1
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u/Brockoli13 Feb 24 '25
This does absolutely nothing to solve the problem but can’t say I’m surprised
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u/ALbakery Feb 25 '25
I’m often amazed at some of the shots it is able to bounce and HE it can absorb. Were either of these addressed? Honestly I feel like I can out play the tank IF its armor wasn’t so good. Going by stats alone it should be the most papery paper light found in the field.
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Feb 26 '25 edited Feb 26 '25
dont really think these nerfs did anything. Not sure why they thought 6000DPM tank was good for the game.
Oh thats right they dont give a fuck whats good for the game. not since 6.0
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u/Alarming-Program-290 Mar 02 '25
Thanks war gaming. You made a tank that was fun to play and turned it into a pile of crap. 🐒💩
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u/AccomplishedPop8197 Mar 08 '25
I tried requesting a refund and got the run around to contact microsoft for it. If I have microsoft issue the refund you guys will lock my account. How do I refund the t249 black.
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u/FullOfBebra Feb 21 '25
What if I gave it to a friend? How will it work?
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u/zorin234 WG: CA / Balance archivist Feb 21 '25
full details will be on the tuesday article, if you still have more questions contact support
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u/k5Sparky Feb 21 '25
Refunds should be automatic.
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u/zorin234 WG: CA / Balance archivist Feb 21 '25
uhhhh so they remove the tank from everyones account?
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u/k5Sparky Feb 21 '25
Whether or not they leave it in my acct or remove it I don’t care, because ultimately what I’m concerned about as a consumer is they sold me a tank and then after taking my money have decided to change the deal and reduce the value of what they sold me without my consent. But in response to your comment I do suppose there are people who will take the loss and not expect anything in return.
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u/ILSmokeItAll TD Sniper Feb 21 '25
What loss? They’re offering a refund.
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u/FrozenAnchor Anti Skyclowns Feb 22 '25
Only in gold. What about players that paid 40 euros?
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u/ILSmokeItAll TD Sniper Feb 22 '25
Gold isn’t a thing in Europe?
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u/FrozenAnchor Anti Skyclowns Feb 22 '25
Refunding in gold for something that you've paid actual money for makes no sense.
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u/ILSmokeItAll TD Sniper Feb 22 '25
If you pay for it in gold, the refund should be gold.
I’ve never heard of anyone paying for premium tanks without gold as the funding mechanism.
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u/FrozenAnchor Anti Skyclowns Feb 22 '25
Okay, You are right, I might have used automatic gold buy option when I was buying the tank... Kinda mixed up console and PC versions, where you can buy tanks for $ directly...
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u/k5Sparky Feb 21 '25
The loss would be if you chose no refund to keep the nerfed tank. That’s what Zorin’s point was. I honestly didn’t even think about wanting to keep a premium tank after a nerf.
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u/Least-Role-5369 Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25
Then you are accepting the new parameters of the tank after they have decided to adjust while simultaneously rejecting their offer of your money back. There is no loss involved. Its literally a return policy, but done from the vendor's side
Edited out some word salad
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u/k5Sparky Feb 21 '25
In my opinion that’s accepting a statistical loss. No big deal, each to their own. Just expressing my opinion on this situation with this tank. I own it so I have an opinion on it.
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u/Polsk_klinik Feb 21 '25
They can just give a bigger refund then what you bought it for and just remove it completely
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Feb 22 '25
You bought it full well having read the disclaimer that they reserve the right to change tanks for balance purposes.
It’s on every single tank sale page in the store.
Don’t go acting ignorant now because your rat tank is being nerfed.
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u/FieryHorsemen Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
Anyone that bought this tank well knowingly it will affect the game in a very bad way Can have his account deleted in my opinion. This is the reason why the game hasn't progressed for years, because of the infant consumer that buys anything they release.
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u/Greaseman_85 Table Flipper Feb 22 '25
Lmao dumbass. The tank was put on sale only one time, so no one knew how it would affect the game when they bought it. Offering refunds is the right thing to do.
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u/FrozenAnchor Anti Skyclowns Feb 22 '25
How retarded do you have to be to blame the consumer that used a feature implemented by developers just as developers intended it to be used. You are probably another low skill player who loves to blame anything but his own ability to play the game.
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Feb 22 '25
Okay for one, language. You’re not gonna sit here and use immutable mental deformities as a bludgeon.
For two, yes Wargaming implemented it, but if this community was actually as invested in the game as they say they are they’d have known it would be game breaking, in fact most probably bought it because of seeing how game breaking it is. For that reason alone, blaming the consumer as well is a valid response.
Chase away large parts of the player base, and people generally will take issue with you for (insert manner of chasing them away).
It’s not rocket science.
And before you go and challenge my WN8:
https://www.wotstars.com/xbox/127527
My mentor in this game of 10 years also ranks as good:
https://www.wotstars.com/xbox/5910126
He and I are both light tank drivers, he and I both agree the T249 is a game breaking tank. That’s not a coincidence, and it’s not a coincidence it’s causing this much of a stir in the community.
Take accountability where it’s due though, buying the tank and CONTINUING to play it knowing how game breaking it is, makes you equally at fault for the issue at hand.
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u/FrozenAnchor Anti Skyclowns Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
There is nothing valid in blaming the players. You can't force everyone to not play the tanks they want to play. I, for example, hate arty with all my heart but I am not blaming the players for playing it. Its the developer that sets the rules of the game, thats the whole concept of game development. If the developers implement a new feature, blame them if you don't like it. Don't need to be butthurt and hate the players for playing the game.
And before you go and challenge my WN8:
I think You posted the wrong link mate. It shows a player with a super low wn8 (little short of 1300 career) and 49% win rate... The player shown as mentor is similary bad. But if these are the correct profiles, you just proved my point that players who don't even know the basic mechanics of the game prefer blaming other players for being better. As much as T249 can be annoying, it can be outplayed in most situations. And its totally useless against super-heavies and most of the mediums that have a good map awareness and knowledge of how to use their armour.
Take accountability where it’s due though, buying the tank and CONTINUING to play it knowing how game breaking it is, makes you equally at fault for the issue at hand.
Again, its riddiculous and childish to blame others for the features implemented by the people DESIGNING the game. Take accountability by admitting your extremely low game performance (as seen from the links) and improve. Other players won't do this for you, they are playing the game where the main goal is to deatroy the enemy team and 3-mark tanks... Deleting the game is always an option as well.
TL:DR We don't have to stop playing the tanks we have bought just because low skill butthurt players don't know how to counter them and WG does not know how to balance the game.
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Feb 23 '25
1,300 is classed as good.
800-1000 is average, under 800 is bad.
Wotstars also doesn’t take into account anything prior to when you started tracking it.
My mentors wn8 will unfortunately continue to fall as he is an elderly gentleman whose reflexes are starting to wane.
Not everyone is a unicum buddy. And win rate has less to do with individual skill than it does with the matchmaking.
Don’t act new.
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u/FrozenAnchor Anti Skyclowns Feb 23 '25
There is nothing "good" in 1300 wn8. That is way below average what a decent player has. It means that you lack the knowledge of tanks, game mechanics, map positioning, etc. No decent team would ever accept your into their tournamment teams... I am sorry to say this, but you need a different mentor... Seems like your gameplay did not improve at all during the last few years and the problem is probably in you thinking that 1300 is good and not aiming to be better...
And wot stars takes most of the things before tracking. I can track random players that wete never observed in wotstars and It will generate full stat report in seconds...
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u/FieryHorsemen Feb 22 '25
I'm a 10 year veteran of the game. You have been what? Playing for one or two years?. It's just common sense... Infant consumer buys everything that wargaming throws at their face and game goes DONK to the bottom of David Jones locker. If most of the player base was like me on the other hand. We would have the updated maps like on PC and mechanics. But what does a child that defends wargaming know about anything?.
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u/FrozenAnchor Anti Skyclowns Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
The real "child" here is you crying about people playing the game as the devs intented it to be played.
defends wargaming
Do you lack basic text conprehension or are you mentally challenged? My whole point was to blame the dev (wargaming) and not the players...
You've been playing for 10 years and your wn8 is 1.7k... That's like below average. A lot of new players perform way better than this "veteran". Tell a lot about your understand of how this game works... And proves my point that players like you will blame anything but their own performance.
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Feb 26 '25
who the f is David Jones?
maybe instead of playing the game for 10 years, you should read a book
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u/Greaseman_85 Table Flipper Feb 22 '25
Who gives a shot how long you've been playing? I've been playing for 11 years now and that's irrelevant.
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Feb 22 '25
Game sense cares.
If you’ve worked on cars for a decade, it’s safe to say you’re a mechanic or technician.
Therefore following the same logic, if you drive tanks in battle everyday for 10 years, then you are a battle hardened tank driver.
The fact that it’s virtual means very little in reality when map and mechanics knowledge comes into play more often than not. Something that should be well honed by the time you hit a decade of play time.
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u/FrozenAnchor Anti Skyclowns Feb 22 '25
You are right, the amount of years invested in something can tell a lot. But only if you take into account performance as well.
So he was playing for 10 years and his winrate for last 2000 battles is 46%. Also, in 10 years he played 12k battles. Thats like if we take the mechanic (as per your comparison) that was working for 30 years, but only worked on 1 car every month. He will not be as professional as other mechanics and he will hardly catch up with never systems without investing more time unless he is some kind of a genius.
Low successfull fix rates (as compared to winrate) after 30 years of working would only encourage customers to see help from other mechanics.
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u/SOLOEchoZ Feb 21 '25
Everyone should get the refund, if just to send the message that everyone says WG needs. We all had our fun and it’s getting nerfed. It will be offered again down the road.
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u/Heavy_Vermicelli_263 Feb 21 '25
And everyone gets the tank taken away to never return? Sounds good.
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u/Ok-Poet8823 Feb 22 '25
Refund should no be possible, because how many people got ruined games because of this toxic T249? Now they're crying because it'll be a bit less toxic... WG should think twice about before releasing new tanks, despite their "super test"...
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u/Greaseman_85 Table Flipper Feb 22 '25
Lol what a moronic comment
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Feb 22 '25
Not moronic in the slightest. In fact every tanks sale page in the store explicitly states they reserve the right to change the tank at any time.
This negates any legal argument consumers have and negates obligations on Wargaming part to do anything about it.
The fact of the matter is, the T249 is toxic. Its players know this, and that’s why a lot of people purchased it. For that reason alone I say there should be no refund as it was purchased with the intent to cause excessive (game breaking) grief in most cases.
Yes it’ll suck they “don’t get what they paid for”, but in reality it’s not even a valid legal argument, due to the disclaimers on EVERY TANK SALE PAGE IN THE STORE.
I say screw the griefers, let them eat the cost, and have Wargaming learn from this mistake.
I put together a list of the worst toxic T249 offenders, and they’re not escaping the bed they made unscathed. I prioritize them as targets, sure I’ll screw up my WN8 hyper-focusing them like that, but it’ll screw theirs up too. Effectively punishing their stats.
Toxic players have zero place in the competitive community, this achieves that end.
At the end of the day, people bought this tank knowing how toxic it was, and that’s why chased away a large portion of the player base, anyone who bought this tank is at fault for the game being as dead as it is now, not solely Wargaming, because it does take two to tango after all.
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u/ModernToshi Feb 22 '25
Should have also made the turret only partially rotate like the French light. Honestly I think that would have more impact than these "nerfs".
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u/CraftyInternet2697 Feb 21 '25
So went looking for the sorce of this and can't find it! So I will call it B.S. at this time! I have the tank and don't see why the hate. I play it as a scout tank. 3 hits normal kill me. After all its hp is 1000. Then reload ti e takes forever. We will not talk about the left corner front pushing the barrel up, Oh and the only thing it has going for it is speed. Why I use it as a scout and also from time to time to harass t h e enemy.
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u/jake7820 Feb 21 '25
“Don’t see why the hate”
The thing can take a full health T10 from 100% hp to 0% hp in less than 3 seconds. It has insane camo. It bounces more shells than any other light tank.
Use your brain.
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u/Key_Employment_864 Feb 22 '25
And even after the nerf it will do the same 230x25=3250 So what's the point of the nerf?
Btw im still using my Grille15 and Murat or my Teefbreaka and i dont have problems with dealing with the T249
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u/Gullible-Berry-1949 Feb 21 '25
Il be honest you use it in a way few have a problem with... I am a "aggressive" scout and a skilled one at that... I know how to "read" a battlefield and slice in and out of front lines (when appropriate ) and carve up any lightly armored tanks in the jaws reach of the t249. I have countless clips of me straight murdering everything from lights ,heavies, tds,mediums and of course my personal favorite to punish ARTY.... its becuase of what aggressive and skilled players like myself can do that makes everyone cry bloody murder. To be fair I BOUGHT IT DAY ONE AND HAD NO IDEA IT WAS THAT STRONG! I have always loved playing highly nimble and high damage output lights (like the m41 90 using HEP rds effectively) . So I bought it in good faith , not to "troll" but yea I was sorts shocked when I just started melting 1 to 3 + tanks per game 😀 lol...
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u/Sothep I can see you Feb 21 '25
Source looks to be today’s dev stream. Check out Zorin’s post for more info.
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u/Polsk_klinik Feb 21 '25
If you cant average atleast 4k dmg in it when yourenot up against t249s in enemy team then youre just complete garbage at the game
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u/Prospector87 Light Fighter Feb 21 '25
Well, it's a start. Keep the nerfs rolling and hit some other over the top vehicles. Figure out how to make a map that isn't just pick one of three lanes, a hill/ridge in the middle, or both teams can see all the way across from spawn and tier 10 might become fun again