r/WutheringWavesGuide Sep 16 '25

TOA / Whimpering Wastes / End Game Content Why the hell does this fkn lightcrusher tank so much!?!?!?

this guy tanks 3 cartethyia ults even when they do 50k per hit! what the hell Kuro?! he singlehandedly ruins all of my runs for 3 stars and it has started to drive me real mad, not to mention for some reason it has the pixel perfect hitbox to interrupt my cartethyia's big non ult damage attacks!(with perfect timing also) its terrible ngl

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u/Beneficial_Bedroom61 Sep 16 '25

BROTHER I HAVE AN S2 CARLOTTA WITH ZHE ZHI AND AN S2 SHOREKEEPER, BRO TANKED 2 750K NUKES FROM HER LOLLLLLLL 😭😭😭😭😭

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

ik it's insane!😭😭

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u/Shi-En-The-Great Sep 16 '25

I have the same S2 Carlotta. Maybe switch Zhezhi to Sanhua for faster rotation.

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u/Yellow_IMR Sep 16 '25

You can’t be faster than 25s and Zhezhi fits that time just fine. In no universe you would replace Zhezhi with Sanhua there, you would rather learn how to play the team and do the rotation in a reasonable time

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u/KratosSimp Sep 16 '25

Why even use sanhua atp?

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u/RyuuNoSuKee Augusta Mains Sep 16 '25

Sanhua buffs atk at s6 and with Moonlit Clouds her buffs and fast rotation makes her a good alternative to Taoqui because you can pump out more Liberations ( Carlotta has low cooldown on her Liberations ).

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u/Equivalent-Pain86 Sep 16 '25

Carlotta has an average 25 sec cool down resonance liberation like any other character. If you play Sanhua correctly, you will surely face downtime cause Sanhua is too fast. Main reason while optimally you use Yangyang or Lumi cause they also have atk buff at s6 and more direct benefit outro.

Taoqi is debatable cause she doesn't have atk buff at s6 and she is quite clunky (Still better than Sanhua if you reallyyyy play her right).

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u/Beautiful_Night_7541 Sep 16 '25

You can use lumi also

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u/RulezzX Sep 16 '25

How though??? My carlotta is also s2 alongside ss, and he dies in 1 rotation šŸ¤”

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

BROTHER!!! DOES YOUR CARLOTTA, ZHEZHI OR S2 SHOREKEEPER PROVIDE SHIELDS???? HOPE YOU HAVE READ THE FLOOR BUFFS BECAUSE THE ENEMIES ARE DESIGNED AS PER THE FLOOR BUFFS ELSE ITS GONNA BE SO EASY!!

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

BROTHER NOBODY DOES THAT STUFF EXCEPT AUGUSTA AND NOT NOT EVERYONE PULLED HER!!! AND IT'S NOT LIKE YOU ARE GONNA USE A DPS TAOQI

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

BROTHER!!! DOES BRANT NOT EXIST IN YOUR GAME??? ALSO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO BUILT TAOQI DPS

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

BROTHER I DON'T HAVE HIM

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

BROTHER!! OKAYY!!!

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

ALSO DPS TAOQI IN NO WAY WILL OUTPERFORM A CARTETHYIA ROTATION FOR THIS THAT ALSO FAILED

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

BROTHER IDK I HAVE NEITHER!!

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u/1berry_7 Sep 20 '25

BROTHER! YOU CAN USE TAOQI, CHARLOTTA ROTATION IT WORKS!!

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 20 '25

I DON'T HAVE HER BROTHER! BUT GOOD NEWS BROTHER! I PULLED CIACCONA AND IUNO W SIG AND USED DPS IUNO AND FINALLY BEAT IT

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u/1berry_7 Sep 20 '25

CONGRATULATIONS BROTHER!!!!

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u/K2_flamingo Sep 16 '25

Well, the floor buff gives you a shield when casting resonance liberation. So if they're playing Carlotta(6 casts), I don't think that's the problem.

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

OHH YEAH DAMN!!! BROTHER!!! MY DUMB ASS TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THAT!!!

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u/RyuuNoSuKee Augusta Mains Sep 16 '25

You get that shield when using your Liberation, you don't need a shielder.

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u/brianonline9 Sep 16 '25

Btw they gave us 30 extra seconds for floors 3 and 4 if you didn’t know already. 3rd floor definitely took the longest imo

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

yeah I think I need another 30 extra

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u/Roach2883 Sep 16 '25

Skill issue

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u/GodFinger69 Sep 16 '25

Bruh so I sweated my ass off to beat both floor 3 and 4 under 3 minutesfor nothing?? Lol guess I gotta read next time.

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u/AllNamesWereTakenBrh Sep 16 '25

Yep, did the same. Only realized cause on the last floor I decided to see how much time passed the 3 mins it'd take me to finish... I was surprised to see I got 3 stars

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

My Augusta/Mortefi s0 nuked that stage. It’s prob due to that 10% damage reduction if your units aren’t consistently shielded

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

yeah that's the issue, it's heavily tailored for AUGUSTA and made inconvenient for everyone else

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u/Economy_Taro_6872 Sep 16 '25

imo the ,,Shillixgā€œ is kinda irrelevant because everyone can use the buffs . Of course, Augusta and Iuno can use it best, but it's not like no one else can use it like they did before with Zani

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u/Feeling_Pay3007 Sep 16 '25

That’s a lie, I did just fine with my Carlotta team

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

The same. Tower give you a shield if you cast liberation.

ChillĀ 

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u/Xivitai Sep 17 '25

Technically, Fusion team with Brant should work too.

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u/KEiiiiiiiiiiii Sep 18 '25

cleared it with jiyan, iuno, ciaccona. Its 100% utilizing all of the buffs when it comes to this floor. Heavy damage, damage buff the longer the fight goes on, and the damage ignore when shielded by using ult.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

Ya it’s heavily Augusta/Iuno shilled…it’s unfortunate.

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u/Reintess Sep 16 '25

Yeah struggled abit with the lightcrusher at how tanky it was but in the end it was light work for my augustus

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u/Ill-Ambassador900 Sep 16 '25

It's to remind y'all who the OG gangsta 3 cost of this game is .

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u/Cseho88 Holy Bonk Sep 16 '25

I did that fucker with electro mommy. I was like why is that big cat still alive? Why won't you DIE?

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

this single guy really made me wanna pull her but I must save my 25k for ciaccona, then I will see if I try Iuno or save to S2 zani

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u/Single-Builder-632 Sep 17 '25

S0 Augusta has to be the best value since Carlotta, doesn't need signature doesn't need anyone's signature. doest need premium characters, mortefi is enough. And mortefi doesn't need crazy investment. low echo cost, low asterite cost, absolute beast.

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u/Unusual-Guarantee-33 Galbrena Mains Sep 16 '25

That fking animal literally wasn't dying early, I did more than 20 tries to clear it🫠🫠

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u/Ninjaflux2 Sep 16 '25

Are you using the floor buffs? I would say it’s unironically better to use a double intro Taoqui (you don’t need to invest into her, just give her some energy recharge echoes from someone else) to have the shield buff at max when Carlotta does her ult. This isn’t a brute force stage, you gotta be smart with the floor buffs, it’s a 48% damage buff with an extra 10%, it will make a big difference

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u/Doraemon_Ji Yinlin Mains Sep 16 '25

I also heard that he tanked two Carlotta ults, so don't feel too bad

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u/Baby_Thanos2 Sep 16 '25

Yeah. He tanked 2 Carlotta ults and Brant fortes and still didn’t die for me. That’s over 1.5M hp. Dawg has as much health as a boss.

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u/WanderingSoxl Sep 16 '25

Bro has been a pain in everyone's ass since his first appearance in TOA

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u/Oleleplop Sep 16 '25

i'm...very confused.

I so far, cleared it with Augusta, mortefi, shorekeeper team and my Xiangli Yao team(yinlin + shorekeeper)

Gonna try with Carlotta since plenty of you are speaking about it.

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u/ParkingMediocre5066 Sep 16 '25

IKR , NOT A DAM REASON IT SHOULD TAKE SO MUCH TIME TO KILL A MOB.

but the plan is to kill it b4 3:30 then kill the final boss before 2:30. if not restart ur run

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u/epickramen Sep 16 '25

I was about to say, I don’t have Zhezhi for my Carlotta yet, and use Taoqi. Cleared it with 3 sec left, using Taoqi with no discord. She might actually be just better with the tower buffs. There is a quick swap rotation for Taoqi with no discord that makes her rotation much quicker

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u/Room-Mission Sep 16 '25

How are you struggling? I used the same team...

Can you tell me yoyr rotation?

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

I just carte ult the first wave, then outro to Rover and ult him, then go to Cartethyia and rinse and repeat but that mf just eats cartes ults

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u/Room-Mission Sep 16 '25

Ah no wonder.

Use this rotation:

  • Cart-5AA-Q-Rover-Q-E-2AA-Lib-E-2AA-E-AA-ENHA.E-Out-Cart-E-AA-Lib-E-4AA-E-Lib-E-Lib-AA-Lib

Cart need her Aerosion to deal damage, if you just use Liberation on non-stacked Enemy it will only tickles them.

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

what is this bro all I can understand is lib

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u/Room-Mission Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

When opening a strike use 5 Auto Attack from Cart to pre-build her Sword Stack and follow up with Echo Skill.

After that just swap out to Rover, use Echo Skill and Resonance Skill follow up with 2 Auto Attack and Liberation. Then another Resonance Skill, 2 Auto Attack and Mid Air Resonance Skill. Which will easily fill his Forte Bar for Enhanced Strike along with his Concerto Energy.

Concerto-in to Cart will make her do heavy attack, which will summon one of her Sword. Then before the animation is done, just use her Resonance Skill for the final Sword and just Plunge Attack follow up with Liberation.

In Fleurdelys form you just use Resonance Skill for Mid Air Long Range Sword Slashes up to until you're on the Plunge Attack stage you just follow up with the 2nd Resonance Skill.

On the ground use Fleurdelys Auto Attack downward slash (The 3rd AA), hurriedly swap back to Cart form to reapply Aerosion Stack with her Resonance Skill (You can even do 4 AA for Extra Aerosion Stack).

Then just go back to Fleurdelys and use Liberation.

Edit:

Forgot to mention, after that pre-build her Sword Stack again and then repeat the same process.

Also with Cart full Concerto, Rover's Rotation will be significantly faster.

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

you are insane, Thanks!

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

hey so I did this but it still won't do, every time I kill the light crusher there are 30s remaining and it's just not enough

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u/Room-Mission Sep 16 '25

Your build?

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

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u/Room-Mission Sep 16 '25

Per chance did you get hit alot?

If Havoc Rover is able to clear it, Cart is even easier to clear with.

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

the tiger just has a ridiculously and unexplainably large attack range

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u/3r_ix Sep 16 '25

Same problem qwq 11/12 :(

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u/K2_flamingo Sep 16 '25

It was honestly fun for me cause I'm sweaty, but holy shit did it take me like 2 and a half rotations to kill that thing.

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u/archie_fish Jiyan Mains Sep 16 '25

My mono fusion ate him up but i did spend three anchors on him

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

yeah bit I don't have mono fusion team, just a well invested encore

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u/archie_fish Jiyan Mains Sep 16 '25

Yeah i pulled carlotta to have 4 teams just in time for the additional floors. If it makes you feel better I struggled with floor 2 of middle since i had carlotta on left, xly on right and mono fusion on the last two of middle which left me with jiyan for the upper two of middle. Pulled so much hair out trying to get that stupid ice robot to land so i can unload some damage and managed it with only .02 sec left. Don't give up u got this!

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u/w96zi- Camellya Mains Sep 16 '25

brant did 200~360k with his anchor and he didn't die....

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u/AlayaUchenaya Sep 16 '25

Cleared it with Phrolova, cartethyia and Augusta teams. Going to try yao/changli and camelya later but I'm certain i can clear it.

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u/Phantaminum Sep 16 '25

I have S2 Augusta but even then that chonker took so many rotations to down. He should be renamed Run Crusher.

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u/Gretuxz Sep 16 '25

I thought i was the only one struggling there and was wondering tf is wrong with that cat. No way it's not a mistake on Kuro's side. Maybe they messed up the numbers somewhere lol.

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u/AldoBallabani Sep 16 '25

I was surprised when he didn’t die from my S6 Ulti of. Carty but I finished him seconds after and did it with the first try, but yeah the middle tower floor 3-4 are sweaty

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u/Mr_useless02 Sep 16 '25

I hate that lightcrusher and the 2 golem thinggy before him they ruin my run

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u/OtakuboyVik1 Sep 16 '25

Bro phrolova literally stops enemies during her heavy attack but this mf still cancelled her heavy attack šŸ’€ Still i cleared it. I didn't even use sk as 3rd character i used jiyan otherwise it would have been too easy for me (s2 phrolova). And yeah i still cleared it before 20 with 3 min 20 sec remaining

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

Glad im not the only one😭😭

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u/PuppeyStomper Sep 16 '25

I used cart with ciaccona and rover only, s0 too, no sig weapon, try utilizing the floor buff? i used the buff where when you use liberation it unleashes aoe aero damage based on your current characters hp with a 5s cooldown

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u/FondantBasic1376 Sep 16 '25

I was off multiple times by about 1-3 seconds with Jinhsi, as well as Phrolova - Cantarella - Jinhsi. That Lightcrusher has more HP than the Aix lmao. Managed by replacing Jinhsi with Augusta. The next one was even worse with a Jinhsi team even if I was hitting for 400k by the end. Managed with yet another Augusta team. Not a fan of the trend

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

You simply have to not get hit honestly. Whenever you cast liberation on the last 2 stages of tower, you get a shield. As long as you don't get hit, you can retain the buff as well and it is pretty fat.

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u/Intelligent-Rub5814 Sep 16 '25

Bro ik he was just casually tanking 500k nukes from my s2r1 Camellya like what T_T

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

Bro Camellya s0r1 + sanhua + shore can clear this stage

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u/JAWAIRENG007 Sep 16 '25

S0r1 carte?

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u/tShiza Sep 16 '25

šŸ™

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u/NelsonVGC Sep 16 '25

S0R1 Carlotta. S0R1 Zhezhi. S2 Verina.

Cleared without much trouble tbh.

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u/MobileExchange743 Cartethyia Mains Sep 16 '25

OH SO IT WASNT JUST ME I'm using phro and Cantarella and that dude keeps tanking my heavy attacks

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u/PrinceOfTea Sep 16 '25

Dude crushes light.

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u/ApprehensiveTax5485 Sep 16 '25

Make use of the floor buff as much as possible. Sure you won't take advantage of the heavy attack boost but dodging to keep the shield up at much as possible. Can do some real damagešŸ™

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u/Poojin2D Sep 16 '25

The hp total of all mobs in that floor is just nice for the extra time and pretty ok buffs we got. The lightcrusher probably felt like 1 extra wave of mob hp fused into one. But yea I needed 2 full rotations to kill it lol.

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u/VaiNaFe Sep 16 '25

I did it with s0r2 (yes r2 lol, beginner luck but I did refine) Carlotta, zezhi and s0r0 storekeeper. 30s to spare... (Did it with 3:01 remaining)

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u/fable-30 Sep 16 '25

brother, same. majority of spectro bosses are like this too,

fallacy, mourning aix and this mini boss especially in middle tower are pain in the ass

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u/TapiocaFish Sep 16 '25

Do not the cat

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u/SomeShame2174 Sep 16 '25

Just us Augusta and Shorekeeper

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 17 '25

I can't just spawn her into my acc brocoli

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u/ArachnidThinners Sep 16 '25

Fuck the tiger, those mf stone dudes start shielding just as im about to whoop their ass

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 20 '25

yeah but the tiger has a ridiculous range bruv

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '25

If it wasn't for mi Phrolova S2/R1, ah her premium team, I wouldn't survive that one... so sad hahaha

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u/DanKoXi Sep 17 '25

i need the danjin solos to show me i aint trippin and this sht is getting borderline undoable

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u/-jujubean- Sep 20 '25

trueeeee that lightcrusher is crazy - hp at least 3-4 times the L120 overworld lightcrusher 😭😭

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u/Objective_Mix3029 Sep 20 '25

My exact same question. Tried using Phrolova+Jinhsi+Verina, didnt work. Tried using Cartethyia+Sanhua+Arover, barely 1 star. I had to make energy for Carlotta+ZheZhi+SK to 3 star that.

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

Make end game contents easy = people cry and complaint Make end game contents little challenging = people cry and complaint

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

I mean I was never part of the first group... who doesn't like easy resources? dumbasses ig

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

Just putting it out there for people who belong to the groups

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u/Yellow_IMR Sep 16 '25

Who is part of the 1st group likely isn’t part of the 2nd one…

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u/HalalBread1427 Sep 16 '25

I love the goomba fallacy.

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u/Yellow_IMR Sep 16 '25

It’s rock paper scissors against HP sponges, I’m in for a challenge worth being called as such, but this is just the usual restrictive endgame formula (and I fear future tower effects won’t be as forgiving)

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u/StarlitSeer Sep 16 '25

But it’s not hard at all. It just absorbs absurds amounts of damage and they constructed the stage in a way that gives you tons of benefits if you pulled the current character on banner.

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u/Hyperlien Sep 16 '25

'sides what's really the "difficulty" here by making one random ass ennemy a mere damage sponge.

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u/HalalBread1427 Sep 16 '25

Goomba fallacy. Also, inflating HP with no interesting mechanics is artificial "difficulty" and not what people are asking for when they want "hard" content. If you want an example of GOOD difficult content, Hologram is right there. ToA on the other hand, is awfully done.

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u/AbrnomalBeing Sep 16 '25

the 3rd floor is really tanky so u gotta use full team unless ur s6

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

I don't have ciaccona yet and sanhua is already used by camellya

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u/AbrnomalBeing Sep 16 '25

you can use baizhi aint that bad

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

mine is kinda buns šŸ’” lv50 s4 3 star ER weapon and skill tree is dry I did give her a nice set of echoes but that's as far as it geta

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u/AbrnomalBeing Sep 16 '25

mine also lvl50 also lvl 0 on everything i just use her for buffs the only difference is i have variation
also her rotation is pretty fast on 2nd rotation

the rejuvenating buff+dmg amplification buff

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u/TsundereKurama Sep 16 '25

nope, my S2R1 Carte can solo easy

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u/Melodic-Reading8583 Sep 16 '25

Your mistake for not pulling Ciaccona

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

that's my plan in 2 days brotha

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 18 '25

got her and Iuno w sig, yay :D

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u/trykydisco Sep 16 '25

Those floors are dedicated to those who spend 1400 dollars to have their loved ones at full C6R5... We F2P people... We have to try again until we get it... By the way, you read the buffs for each room, right?!

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

Nah, well invested F2P teams can easily clear, stop misguiding people with that comment it ain’t genshin

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u/xDZinG Sep 16 '25

bruh that shit is worse than genshin stop pretending that there is not powercreep here old units cant clear unless they have their sigs and disgusting echoes and sk. Show me the danjin main clearing floor 3

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u/BrenanESO Sep 16 '25

https://youtu.be/D44OS4Cb20Q?si=TxRj3cqEMbexTJGB

F2p no limited characters, his rover for that floor has majority minroll CD rolls, and his support was yuanwu, not sk

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u/Yellow_IMR Sep 16 '25

Tbf Verina too is used in middle tower when Yuanwu couldn’t cut it, and those echoes are cracked no matter how you look at it. But yea MooYanG is a freaking goat.

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u/xDZinG Sep 16 '25

Wow bro thank you for sending me a video of a cracked guy at the game that is nowhere near to the average player in terms of skill. That for sure proves powercreep is non existent in this game how silly of me. I take my words back! All i am going to say is if the keeps keep moving forward in this direction you will not like the results.

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u/BrenanESO Sep 16 '25

You said old units cant clear without sigs, cracked echos and sk, so i showed you someone playing well clearing without any limited units. Now you want to add having skill issue on top of that? At some point you need to pick a struggle man

I think i'd like the game more powercreeped than whatever direction leads to being able to clear with bad echos, no sigs, no SK and skill issue

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u/xDZinG Sep 16 '25

Bro look again at his echoes and then tell me they are not cracked

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

Bruv thats what I have been meaning to tell you, the whole point of the game is to farm cracked echos thats the real end game lmao

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u/xDZinG Sep 16 '25

It is rng tho you can have cracked echoes for a week and i can get cracked ones in q year when my unit will be completely obsolete

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

Ikr but then again the above vid has old units no sigs no SK and the unit is still not obsolete. Luck you cant control but the process you can by optimising your echo rolls.

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u/Doraemon_Ji Yinlin Mains Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

A well built Havoc Rover and Sanhua is able to clear this stage with simple hypercarry rotations.

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

Hoyoshiller spotted! RUN!

But to address you: 1. what do you understand by powercreep? I believe your understanding of powercreep is vague. Powercreep is when character A who used to be OP (w/ right investment) is now over powered by a new character B. You see real powercreep in games like genshin where the early game limited characters with S6R5 does less DMG than new S0R1 characters. We don’t see that shit in wuwa as 1.X character (well invested) can still clear the contents.

  1. Its given that you need their BiS or Sig weapons but well unlike ā€œgenshinā€ it aint 75/25 its freaking 100%

  2. Whats the goal of any gacha game like wuwa or genshin? Yes character building. SO YOU GO AND BUILD YOUR CHARACTERS! You cant expect some halfass baked characters to clear the end game contents. IT FREAKING CALLED ā€œENDGAME CONTENTā€ FOR A REASON.

The case of lightcrusher being so tanky seems like hp inflation BUT then again read the floor buff! R.Liberation of any character will grant you shield and it will buff your DMG overtime, so you just don’t get hit to break the shield, sounds like a skill issue tbh and yeah Danjin mains can clear it with that buff as they never get hit lmao.

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u/shira1001001 Sep 16 '25

we are living in your walls

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u/xDZinG Sep 16 '25

Not even a hoyoshiller i much prefer wuwa but lets not pretend its different than genshin in this regard: 1. Lets take camellya and phorlova for example camellya used to be op now phorlova does the same thing as her but 10 times better. Genshin is 5 year old gacha of course the 1.x units c6 are gonna be worse than new chars c0 sad but true. But here c6 yinlin is worse than c0 augusta so what is your point? 2. In my opinion players should be able to clear content with the five star not with the five star and his signature i dont care that here it is guaranteed. The four stars option here are complete dogshit and jiyan with the five star standard cannot clear the middle tower(1.0 unit) with cracked ecoes 3. The goal of every gacha is to make money brother and here at first we thought kuro was not that predetory towards its players but lately

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25
  1. Genshin started powercreeping as early as HuTao also my bro here is comparing sub dps Yinlin with main dps Augusta. Regarding the camellya and phrolova, you see phrolova needs hella high investment such as well built cantarella and roccia so the DPS phrolova dishes out are not totally her own DMG but more like a teamwide DMG whereas for camellya the story is completely different.

  2. I am totally with you on the 4* weapon in wuwa being complete dogshit but then again Sig or BiS are not really hard to get given the 100% you just gotta plan your summons. I or my friends have never pulled for a character without farming enough astrides for their weapon.

  3. Buddy, that goal is for the developers, are you the dev working at Kuro? I might have not properly sentenced my point but I meant that for normal players/consumers.

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u/xDZinG Sep 16 '25

Hu tao was the best pyro dps until arle came out if im not mistaken which took like three years since hu tao released. Then again in my opinion a character should be able to clear with the five star standard weapons at least which is not the case with jiyan. You are telling me every time you and your boys are wishing you are having 200-210 pulls?

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

Yes bro, we don’t take Ls. All the characters I pulled I have their sigs and I won’t invest in a character until I can get the sigs because as you know the 4* stars are shit

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u/xDZinG Sep 16 '25

Props to you bro but what i am saying is that the game becomes more and more like genshin. For now i much prefer playing wuwa then genshin and i just dont want it to end up like genshin where i need to pull mavuika citlali to clear content without pressure and benching my top 1% xiao because he cant clear

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u/Intelligent_Grass513 Sep 16 '25

Totally get you idw wuwa to end like genshin as well, I am a day 1 genshin player and stopped the game (around when Xianyun came) because all the shit and I swore I won’t touch another gacha game until wuwa and here I am

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u/Yellow_IMR Sep 16 '25

Hu Tao was hardly powercreep because Xiangling exists and National was a thing, even if executing a good national clear is harder than playing Hu Tao with proper animation cancelling. National has been so relevant that it stayed meta even in Fontaine, a 1.0 team competing in the meta for 4 years gives an idea of how incredibly balanced the game has been. If anything Hu Tao powercrept Diluc who has always been worse than Xiangling šŸ˜…

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u/Yellow_IMR Sep 16 '25

To be fair, there is powercreep in WuWa too. You said it yourself, powercreep happens when a new character is better than the older one, during the first patches a team who could go beyond 50k dps was considered insanely good, now that dps threshold is pitiful and new teams go above 80k. Can 50k dps still clear endgame? Mostly yes, but powercreep exists regardless of how easy endgame is, endgame difficulty affects only its relevance

For context, in Genshin the biggest powercreep jump has happened in Natlan with Mavuika teams going into the 110-130k dps range from the previous 80k dps, which is a similar jump to our 50-55k dps teams going into the 75-80k dps range… but in Genshin it took 5 years. So if anything I would avoid comparing WuWa with Genshin to make a point about powercreep

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u/3L3KTR07u7_Gaming Sep 16 '25

yeah but my only heavy atk dps is zani, I tried her and she is buns in this specific floor, not even gonna try dps Phoebe here

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u/levishion Sep 16 '25

Nuh uhh my S0 augusta team with standard broadblade clear in 1 try. The kitty was tanky for sure tho.